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Maz 18 December 2007 09:27 PM

Long term use of Methanol.
 
What is the long term effect of using Methanol as an additive to the fuel. Say a ten percent mix with a tankful of petrol. Is it likely to cause any damage or unsavoury side effect over time.:)

Ian 18 December 2007 10:16 PM

dynamix knows a fair bit about this, think he runs it in his car, could be worth a pm

R4LLY 18 December 2007 11:05 PM

I've been running a 10% mix for a while now without a hitch.
There were some "issues" with regards to corrosion of fuel system, however 10% hasn't had any ill effects that I have heard of as yet.

Paul managed to get an extra 5 degrees of timing from my 10% mix, and the driving benefits mean :D :D all day long...

Jolly Green Monster 18 December 2007 11:09 PM

not seen any negatives other than remembering to fill the can and put it in the boot :)

dynamix 19 December 2007 10:23 PM

I havent been using it for long so cant tell you about long term down sides.

Fantastic results from it on my car but it is not pleasant stuff to handle and needs care.

scooby0809 19 December 2007 11:03 PM

What are people calling fantastic results?

Jolly Green Monster 19 December 2007 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by scooby0809 (Post 7496331)
What are people calling fantastic results?

when mapped for you gain considerable power..

Simon

Henrik 20 December 2007 07:58 AM

Isn't it a bit of a pain in the arse to get hold of though? Is it a case of "barrel in the back yard"?

dynamix 20 December 2007 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by scooby0809 (Post 7496331)
What are people calling fantastic results?

In my case without any mechanical changes I gained 23 bhp & 30 lb/ft at the wheels !! and saved money at the same time :lol1:

JohnD 20 December 2007 09:39 AM

Used to use a fair amount of methanol in my R/C model flying days.
A couple of pointers - Get the good quality fuel grade - methanol is an alcohol also used for industrial cleaning and de-greasing, so avoid this grade as it may contain a certain amount of water (methanol is hydroscopic) Keep the container tightly sealed.
Methanol is accumulative. If it gets on your skin it may be absorbed through the pores, once inside you, it stays! Wear rubber gloves when handling.
It can eventually promote corrosion, so occasional flush through with a fuel system cleaner may be a good idea?
JohnD

dunx 20 December 2007 07:36 PM

Brain damage and organ failure....

Not the answer you were looking for !

DunxC

P.S. Must try some, Hic !

Andy.F 20 December 2007 10:20 PM

I have used Methanol as an additive for 5 years now and as a 100% source of fuel for most of last year. No ill effects on injectors/regs/pumps/fuel lines etc.

As for the human issues.....well.... some would say I must be mad to drive this thing anyway so no further damage there either ;)

Andy

Henrik 20 December 2007 10:24 PM

Where can I get some of this juice? :)

Jolly Green Monster 20 December 2007 10:45 PM

everyone is so happy to fill a car with petrol etc.. but that's not nice stuff either..

Simon

dynamix 22 December 2007 07:22 AM

methanol is good in the lawnmower too - gets the mowing done much quicker :D

B0DSKI 22 December 2007 07:31 AM

Where do u get hold of it though ??

D-an-W 22 December 2007 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 7498923)
everyone is so happy to fill a car with petrol etc.. but that's not nice stuff either..

Simon

Very, very true...Benzine is horrible stuff.

Andy.F 22 December 2007 09:52 AM

You can get it here in 25 ltr containers, cheaper than V-Power :cool:

Jennychem Store

B0DSKI 22 December 2007 10:03 AM

Cheers Andy :thumb:

H4RDY-P1 22 December 2007 10:54 AM

Glad i read this as i was just talking to paul about running mine on 10% meth,cheers for the link andy but when i search the store for methanol the screen just goes blank?,anyone else having this same problem?

Andy.F 22 December 2007 11:31 AM

If you give them a call and just ask for methanol, they also do toluene at a similar price if you want to make some high octane race fuel on a budget :cool:

bpm1588 22 December 2007 11:40 AM

maxol in the rep of ireland have just started selling their E5 fuel.as far as i know its normal unleaded plus 5% meth giving 99+ ron.i think all their unleaded pumps are E5 now so must be safe for prolonged use.

Andy.F 22 December 2007 11:52 AM

E5 is 5% Ethanol, not methanol.

Maz 22 December 2007 12:11 PM

Thanks for the replies guys.:thumb: As an aside, is there any advantage having Methanol introduced into the engine with the air i.e after the intercooler as opposed to with the fuel. Or is it the same thing via a different method.:)

Jolly Green Monster 22 December 2007 12:20 PM

similar results but you can do both :)

Maz 22 December 2007 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 7502486)
similar results but you can do both :)

Hola Simon, by doing both would the results be doubled? Is it a worthwhile exercise and does it compromise realiability? Surely with explosions in the cylinder chambers being ever more powerful heat would be an issue.:)

Jolly Green Monster 22 December 2007 12:38 PM

injecting it with water has different advantages.. but in the tank is better and more reliable.. no chance of a failed water jet or pump etc..

cannot be sure whether double the results.. only tuned with either or with both installed so no way of comparing on the same setup.

cooling is not the issue as water inj + meth cools the charge well, yes increased stress on setup but depends on what setup is, as to whether it will take it

Simon

dynamix 22 December 2007 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Andy.F (Post 7502440)
E5 is 5% Ethanol, not methanol.

As per Tesco 99 :thumb:

dunx 22 December 2007 04:41 PM

Jennychem site didn't seem to work for me, anyone else tried ?

DunxC

dynamix 22 December 2007 05:01 PM

just ring Jenny - she is very helpful :thumb:

The site doesnt work.


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