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Old 10 January 2008, 04:20 PM
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I have requested that Gaz and its 'on the list' All their resource is currently directed at the new hatchback ECU as there are so many different versions around the world to work with.
Cool. That and the dual map would be a blessing. I'll keep my ears to the SN ground for when it arrives.
Old 10 January 2008, 04:38 PM
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£150 per 210L drum? That's pretty good - 71p per litre. Mmm - maybe I should run the car on 20% methanol; that way I could save at least £4 per fill compared to V-Power and have fun in the process
Old 10 January 2008, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lunar tick
Jennychem are quoting £27.50 per 25 litres of methanol but one of the posters in this thread (in S Wales) says he can get it for around 60p a litre. Does anyone know a cheaper source of methanol in the North East?
That would be me, i buy it off someone who buys it in 205 litre drums and doesn't mind selling small quantities on, i provide my own 25L drums.

Not sure what he's paying for a 205L drum but he's obivously not selling it to me at a loss.

There's a place in Manchester area selling it for £18.50 for 25L pickup only on ebay.
Old 10 January 2008, 05:31 PM
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Cheers Dean - I'll check it out
Old 10 January 2008, 05:59 PM
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That place does not add vat thats why it is so cheap but if he assumes your using it in your car then will add the vat.

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Old 10 January 2008, 06:38 PM
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He would need to add more than VAT !!!!
Old 10 January 2008, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
That place does not add vat thats why it is so cheap but if he assumes your using it in your car then will add the vat.

Banny
Think you mean fuel duty, VAT is included as it says a "VAT receipt provided"

Don't tell him/them your going to use it as fuel, your planning on making bio-diesel
Old 10 January 2008, 06:54 PM
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there is still fuel duty to pay on that though iirc
Old 10 January 2008, 07:51 PM
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The duty on road fuel is a very high percentage of the total cost, thats why I only use Methanol for cleaning purposes..... pistons, valves, injectors etc
Old 10 January 2008, 08:04 PM
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now we know.

so like Redex then, cleans the system!
Old 10 January 2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by turboDean
That would be me, i buy it off someone who buys it in 205 litre drums and doesn't mind selling small quantities on, i provide my own 25L drums.

Not sure what he's paying for a 205L drum but he's obivously not selling it to me at a loss.

There's a place in Manchester area selling it for £18.50 for 25L pickup only on ebay.
Do you have the item number ?.
Old 10 January 2008, 08:45 PM
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I did'nt think to try methanol as long as it does no damage to the car...

I have loads of the stuff at my work place. Grade A for analytical use in the labs. Should be as pure as it gets.

I'm sure we pay alot more than that at the lab. Maybe £18 a litre.
Old 11 January 2008, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by H4RDY-P1
Do you have the item number ?.
There u go: 330202900164
Old 11 January 2008, 09:49 AM
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Shady, we have both NF and methanol in stock
Old 11 January 2008, 09:55 AM
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How much for 25 litres of methanol?
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interested in costs aswell
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The problem as I see it is carrying around 5 or 6 litres of the stuff so you can put it in the tank before you add V Power.
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Get yourself a petrol can, it stores 5 litres and when you fill up pour the meth in first and then tank it up.

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Old 11 January 2008, 11:20 AM
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That's what I'll be doing. I'll premix the methanol with some NF in a 5L petrol can with graduated litre markings so I can top up 'fractions of a tank' if need be
Old 11 January 2008, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lunar tick
That's what I'll be doing. I'll premix the methanol with some NF in a 5L petrol can with graduated litre markings so I can top up 'fractions of a tank' if need be
thats what i do (but don't use NF)
I've got a bottle with litre and half litre marks on, and put 1 litre to every 10 litres of fuel, got to be more accurate than just chucking in 5 litres everytime u fill up, plus u don't have to run the car empty which i don't like to do.
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better go shopping for some fuel cans
Old 11 January 2008, 10:52 PM
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Fangoria : Steve : Once the concentration of NF exceeds 3 mls/litre it does not appear to have any beneficial effect so pouring in a full bottle of NF at 300 mls is a bit of a waste.
Carrying around methanol, over 5 litres per tank is a PITA and if you are regularly away from home, even more so.
Old 14 January 2008, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by turboDean
thats what i do (but don't use NF)
I've got a bottle with litre and half litre marks on, and put 1 litre to every 10 litres of fuel, got to be more accurate than just chucking in 5 litres everytime u fill up, plus u don't have to run the car empty which i don't like to do.
so putting in one litre of methanol with every ten litres of petrol? not running at 10% then?
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1+10 = 9%
1+9 = 10%
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Originally Posted by jd5217
so putting in one litre of methanol with every ten litres of petrol? not running at 10% then?
No as Harvey said 10:1 is around 9%, when i have it mapped for my new setup in a couple of months i think i'm gonna try 10:1.5 which is around 13% and maybe 2 or 3 ml of NF pure litre of fuel aswell.
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Originally Posted by harvey
1+10 = 9%
1+9 = 10%
hence my comment
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Its not that critical, if 1% difference causes an issue then its mapped way too close to the edge !

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will remember that
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Originally Posted by lunar tick
That's what I'll be doing. I'll premix the methanol with some NF in a 5L petrol can with graduated litre markings so I can top up 'fractions of a tank' if need be

NF is most reluctant to mix with 100% Methanol, it mixes ok with a petrol/methanol mix though.
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so better off with a bigger jerry can with graduated markings.

what is was looking at was to premix a certain amount of v power with the meth & NF to make topping up easier.


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