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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Heres one very clever black man indeed.

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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Look at the morons that are being churned out by our education system, are British people "less intelligent"
yep
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Did anyone mention black peoples' lack of swimming prowess? Is that down to muscular make up? dl
Sport is part physical and part opportunity - take black kids with the physical ability to jump and run and give them the chance to play ball 24/7 in da hood...and they take over the NBA. Swimming,tennis, golf etc requires more money to do as a kid so they dont get the chance......when they do you end up with tiger woods and the williams girls.

Same as east Africans with stamina - anyone can jog for free, hence they clean up.


The intelligence thing is hard to work out because (in africa) they seem unable to motivate themselves to do anything that isnt handed out to them......hence Zimbabwe is going down the pan, all very clever when it comes to taking the Rhodesian farmers land back.....not so good when it comes to getting up at 5am and planting some seeds on it!
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonno_johnson
Heres one very clever black man indeed.

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Thought that was Nigel Benn at first.

Can't hear it because I'm at work so don't know why he attacked the car, but if it was me in the car, I'd have ran him over...... twice
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino
Sport is part physical and part opportunity - take black kids with the physical ability to jump and run and give them the chance to play ball 24/7 in da hood...and they take over the NBA. Swimming,tennis, golf etc requires more money to do as a kid so they dont get the chance......when they do you end up with tiger woods and the williams girls.

Same as east Africans with stamina - anyone can jog for free, hence they clean up.


The intelligence thing is hard to work out because (in africa) they seem unable to motivate themselves to do anything that isnt handed out to them......hence Zimbabwe is going down the pan, all very clever when it comes to taking the Rhodesian farmers land back.....not so good when it comes to getting up at 5am and planting some seeds on it!

lol - theres food its being held back by the profiteerers .

also its not easy to grow anything with out power /water supply
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant

And what has explosivity got to do with it? Is that a muscle trait?
I believe he is referring to "fast twitch" muscle

Fast and Slow Twitch Muscle Fibers

So yes in answer to your question
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
I believe he is referring to "fast twitch" muscle

Fast and Slow Twitch Muscle Fibers

So yes in answer to your question
Interesting.

I would say both Javelin throw and shot put and hammer require "Fast twitch" muscle.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Thought that was Nigel Benn at first.

Can't hear it because I'm at work so don't know why he attacked the car, but if it was me in the car, I'd have ran him over...... twice
Hard to understand him, but he says hes a murderer, crack dealer and has ho's in the back somewere, then brags how he chases people out his town, thats when he sets about that car.

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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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That is exactly what i meant thanks for the link

Like i said not just explosive but lean and explosive - something you dont really need to be for doing Hammer or Javelin.

Anyway Pete your just picking now and trying to make me look fick
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Without going off topic this thread really has got me thinking (Ok yeah yeah hard i know) but seriously what is intelligence?

Is it academic? drive? wisdom?

some very interesting answers.

I mean some people have argued with me and said David Beckham is thick, yet he has marketed himself and is probably worth more than 50 million quid.
yep a good if not great footballer yet one of the most recognizable faces on the planet.


Interesting defining intelligence
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Dont think Beckham can be regarded as intelligent in any way for the money he makes through football (although one could argue its as a result of even less intelligent people paying their weeks wage to get their kids shirts to look like him...another issue!)

Plenty of dumb people can get rich without being too smart......to quote Mr Rock "Shaq is rich. The guy who signs his check is wealthy.... If Bill Gates woke up with Oprah's money, he'd throw himself out the motherf---ing window"
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Does it actually matter whether he is right or wrong?

For all we know, he may well be right. On a statistical level there are demonstrable differences in abilities and atributes between the races, just as there are with the sexes. Many of these are accepted as fact, mainly because no-one is offended if you point out that black people tend to be stronger, and it's perfectly ok to point out that white people are weaker because, well, they're white. Same with the thing about asians being more intelligent.

But ultimately does it matter? If I meet a random person, whether it's out on the street or interviewing them for a job, these statistical trends are meaningless, what actually matters is whether this person standing in front of you is thick or not, and you have no way of knowing that based on some physical attribute that they were born with.

Sure, if the guy standing in front of you is decked out in gang regalia then maybe you should avoid them, but that's completely different as they have chosen to present themselves in that way.

Everyone's an individual. At least give them a chance to do something stupid before you assume that they are.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
Actually it is egg-shaped the world is!
No it isn't. It's an oblate spheroid, which means it's slightly flattenned at the poles. If you want to be really picky, it's a bit pear-shaped.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
I agree on some of your points, Academically i'm as thick as pig s*** but i dont see myself as thick or either particulary clever tbh
But to say its b***ocks well....

It would be like me saying that White males are just as strong physically in some sports i.e. heavyweight boxong or 100 metre running - when plainly they are not.

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then how come the 4 main heavyweight champions are white
ruslan chagaev,sultan ibragimov,wladimir klitschco and oleg maskaev
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by exvaux
then how come the 4 main heavyweight champions are white
ruslan chagaev,sultan ibragimov,wladimir klitschco and oleg maskaev
Granted but how long would any of them last against say Lewis, Holyfield, Ali, Tyson or Foreman at their peak.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Granted but how long would any of them last against say Lewis, Holyfield, Ali, Tyson or Foreman at their peak.
or any of the keyboard warriors on here
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
or any of the keyboard warriors on here
Indeed Chris!
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
or any of the keyboard warriors on here

Or the Scoobynet cagefighters - not two minutes
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by exvaux
then how come the 4 main heavyweight champions are white
ruslan chagaev,sultan ibragimov,wladimir klitschco and oleg maskaev


One word: Chernobyl
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
We are already up to our noses in kn0bs around here, we do not need to import them!
Imported ***** should come with Kn(c)ocklinks fitted!!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Isn't this pretty much the definition of political correctness?
I would prefer to say "common decency" in this context.

No one could ever accuse me of political correctness as must be plain from my previous posts over the years.

Do you not think there is a place for tact and decent behaviour in the world today?

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by blockmonke@fsmail.net
Look at the morons that are being churned out by our education system, are British people "less intelligent"
That is an inspired statement and very illuminating.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino

Same as east Africans with stamina - anyone can jog for free, hence they clean up.

And theres me thinking its the Kenyans high altitude training in their natural habitat that gave the distance running advantage!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
And theres me thinking its the Kenyans high altitude training in their natural habitat that gave the distance running advantage!
Do you think the Kenyans would have a hope in hell if the cost of running was on a par with golf or tennis? You can have all the physical attributes you need but if you cant afford the sport you're stuck.
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I personally pity the fool, I think he should quit his Jibber Jabber.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino
Do you think the Kenyans would have a hope in hell if the cost of running was on a par with golf or tennis? You can have all the physical attributes you need but if you cant afford the sport you're stuck.
Flip side (unlimited by cash) is the top ten world golfers would be Kenyan. And they'd win the tennis in their spare time :O
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Its all about genetics, some races are made for swimming, some races are made for running its only natural that some races will have a lower capability when it comes to the brain dept.
Wether the research is right or wrong is irrelevant, the theory is just that...a theory, the race card shouldnt come into it.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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The race card comes into play straight away, by the claim that black people are less intelligent. Whether the research is correct is a matter of opinion, as it depends on what we actually class as intelligence and the context that his research was based upon.

Only my opinion, without boring anyone with a long winded response.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
The race card comes into play straight away, by the claim that black people are less intelligent. Whether the research is correct is a matter of opinion, as it depends on what we actually class as intelligence and the context that his research was based upon.

Only my opinion, without boring anyone with a long winded response.
Very non/confrontational and politically correct response designed to appease everybody and offend nobody -

I´d suggest that the research is a matter of record rather than opinion. Of course these are statistics that show a trend rather than imply that everyone of a particular ethnic background fits the pattern.

pupils achieving 5 or more A*-C at GCSE/GNVQ: by sex and ethnic group, 2004, England


From here :National Statistics Online
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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To me, and I only speak from my opinion, statistics may show a trend, but if many of the black community are living in poorer areas (I may well be wrong) then they are likely to under achieve, as people from any other ethnic backgrounds may well do within the same place.
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