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Old 23 August 2007, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
Nah mate round here theyre all teenagers and smackheads. The only weapon they have is saliva and maybe a used needle.

Granted it's a risk challenging them but on the odd false alarm I have encountered, I have gone downstairs totally naked (that's enough to scare anyone ) armed with a short weights bar with no weights on either end(dumbell - me, not the bar )...
Not always the case though, it was smackheads who burgled my garage, but it was professionals who stole next doors motors, and it was the gippos that robbed the other next door neighbour of all their money (and a few trees too)

Yes it is a risk challenging them, but I think if I went downstairsa naked they would probably just laugh

Obviuosly we have the Dog, but anyone breaking in can just stand there and laugh at Scooby behind the door whilst he barks at them through the glass
Old 23 August 2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Being near a police training place won't help you.

When I was doing mine I was on the lash every night

Biggest deterrent agianst burglars in my experience is a dog that barks. That and proper security. Obvious I know........... The dog will only scare of the sweating, skeletal drug addict. The professional will kill your pet.

Trouble is there is the smack head burglar who only hits soft targets for his £100, and the organised, nasty ones that target wealth and will hurt you. Fight against them and you could get killed as they never work alone, and have already researched your house and know what they want.
They all knock off at 5pm here but sometimes they do have late night excericises, and the Helicopter is out at least once a week two

in my previous post my garage was burgled so they could sell to cash converters to get their quick fix

My next door neighbour, he was asleep in the back living room, they came in through the back garden saw him asleep, went round to the front and drilled the locks out of the door, came in took his keys and briefcase and two cars, tried to find the keys to the 3rd car (his 1 week old E class Merc) but couldnt so headed off into Liverpool

They left my house and my Scoob, so they had obviously targetted him for his Merc, but he had only had it week so they worked pretty quick for that one

He woke up and had no idea what had happened, until his Missus phoned for him to go pick her up and he realised he had no cars
Old 23 August 2007, 10:33 AM
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Personally, unless my family was in immediate danger I wouldn't worry about belongings.

Get in a fight with a druggie and potentially catch something (Hep B etc)
Get in a fight with a proper burglar - Get seriously hurt.

Remember unless you keep them there (they are arrested & sent down) - They know where you live and can easily come back.

Cornering a criminal is not ideal as you are the only thing seperating them from freedom.
Old 23 August 2007, 10:33 AM
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A big baseball bat at the bed - er except it did not help me when i crawled home after a session, fell asleep on the couch downstairs, next thing its 4am in the morningand i wake up and this big bloke is towering over me in my fecking front room.

needless to say i ejected him from my home.

Police turn up 'Did you hit him?' me, 'he fell on my driveway'

'Well if you've hurt him you could be prosecuted'

WTF?
Old 23 August 2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
A big baseball bat at the bed - er except it did not help me when i crawled home after a session, fell asleep on the couch downstairs, next thing its 4am in the morningand i wake up and this big bloke is towering over me in my fecking front room.

needless to say i ejected him from my home.

Police turn up 'Did you hit him?' me, 'he fell on my driveway'

'Well if you've hurt him you could be prosecuted'

WTF?
That makes me fecking annoued!

And that is one of the reasons why we have so much crime in this country.
Criminal Justice System (ha, the name is a joke in itself) protects the wrong people, the law works against the decent and innocent and seems to pander to the scumbags.

Things need to change.
Old 23 August 2007, 11:16 AM
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Thing is Paul its not as if i had confronted him in my garden or anything, i awoke in my own front room and this 6 foot bloke was towering over me.

Now if thats not a threat to me then what is?

So i politely slapped him
Old 23 August 2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Thing is Paul its not as if i had confronted him in my garden or anything, i awoke in my own front room and this 6 foot bloke was towering over me.

Now if thats not a threat to me then what is?

So i politely slapped him

Good work!
Old 23 August 2007, 11:27 AM
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Thing is it happened so quick it really is true when they say i did not have time to get scared - as corney as it sounds, afterwards when i called the police my a**e fell out and i felt sick and was shaking like a leaf - i'm not scared of admitting that.
Old 23 August 2007, 11:28 AM
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I would suggest doing it the US way and purchasing something like this - a popular choice for home-defence there;

http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0106/0...fense/M16b.jpg

Also if you live in an especially bad area for robbery and violent crime like Bradford, Birmingham or Leicester then land mines in the garden would also be recommend, in addition to wearing a stab vest at night
Old 23 August 2007, 11:34 AM
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I think that in these "enlightened" times when the victim will get prosecuted for defending himself and thus committing an offence against the attacker's human rights, your best chance is to use a normal household object as a persuader. You can then say that you picked up the first object that came to hand and then you might even get a lesser or only similar sentence to the one passed on your attacker!

Les
Old 23 August 2007, 11:34 AM
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Its nice to know that most SNetters sleep 'tooled up'


But....


The reality is that your 'weapons' will probably be taken off you in a struggle and be used against you and your nearest & dearest!

Try, if you are that way inclined, setting the intruder alarm before going to bed and if you feel REALLY unsafe fit a second lock or latch to the bedroom door
Old 23 August 2007, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Its nice to know that most SNetters sleep 'tooled up'


But....


The reality is that your 'weapons' will probably be taken off you in a struggle and be used against you and your nearest & dearest!

Try, if you are that way inclined, setting the intruder alarm before going to bed and if you feel REALLY unsafe fit a second lock or latch to the bedroom door
Again - powder fire extinguisher - range of 20 feet or so quick zap and you have a blind snowman in front of you!
Old 23 August 2007, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Again - powder fire extinguisher - range of 20 feet or so quick zap and you have a blind snowman in front of you!
Excellent if applied at the top of the stairs, as with one swift kick said snowman will be "Flying through the air!"
Old 23 August 2007, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt


But....


The reality is that your 'weapons' will probably be taken off you in a struggle and be used against you and your nearest & dearest!
But.... a trained dog is the only defensive weapon that can't be used against you.
Old 23 August 2007, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
But.... a trained dog is the only defensive weapon that can't be used against you.
Agree 110%, there's no greater deterent than a 200lb shredding machine
Old 23 August 2007, 12:26 PM
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There was a ****** in Liverpool who was behind several car related burglaries (Forced entry) children in the house and so on. His house and his parents house where both at the same time paid a visit by a group of individuals who forced entry in the wee small house (Suprised he was in,LOL)
and did to them what he was doing to others, scared the living sh#t out of his parents and his girlfriend but with the added bonus of the following.
TVs went through the windows followed by most of the other contents and finally he followed them, his car was also torched on the driveway (Probably ringed anyway)

Live by the sword die by the sword.
Old 23 August 2007, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
There was a ****** in Liverpool who was behind several car related burglaries (Forced entry) children in the house and so on. His house and his parents house where both at the same time paid a visit by a group of individuals who forced entry in the wee small house (Suprised he was in,LOL)
and did to them what he was doing to others, scared the living sh#t out of his parents and his girlfriend but with the added bonus of the following.
TVs went through the windows followed by most of the other contents and finally he followed them, his car was also torched on the driveway (Probably ringed anyway)

Live by the sword die by the sword.
Why his parents?
Old 23 August 2007, 12:33 PM
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Put kids stair gates on, they're usually adult proof and litter the stairs and hall way with the kids toys, ***** very effective on the stairs and lots of loud squeeky toys with flashing lights that activate with movement in the hallway. Study the "Home Alone" movie for extra tips as well.

On a serious note, I would do whatever I have to to protect my wife and children. I like the powder extingisher idea and follow that up with a rolling pin.
Old 23 August 2007, 12:44 PM
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Can't remember what programme it was, but there was an ex. SAS type that trained homeowners on what to do during an attempted burglary. Each homeowner thought they new best and took turns to confront the intruder with an assorted array of weapons including a baseball bat, chip pan, golf club etc.

They stood there cocky as you like waving their weapon of choice to then be surprised by the intruder pulling out a **** off kitchen knife while continuing to approach them, as its likely that the intruder will be high as a kite and be up for this fight with some plank dressed in their PJ's (or naked).

The homeowner now finds themselves semi-naked, armed with a baseball bat facing a drugged up nutter with a knife, not great odds, infact REALLY feckin stupid situation to put yourself in!

The ONLY technique that proved effective was to barracade your bedroom door (with anything you can get your hands on) and shout through telling the intruder that you've called the police and their on their way.
Old 23 August 2007, 12:46 PM
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They bred the little b#stard and believe me from what i was told of them they where also well aware of his activities.

It was also i believe meant as a message that his nocturnal activities will have a knock on effect for the rest of the family.
Old 23 August 2007, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt

The ONLY technique that proved effective was to barracade your bedroom door (with anything you can get your hands on) and shout through telling the intruder that you've called the police and their on their way.
What are you supposed to do if you baracade yourself in and your children are in the other part of the house and come out of their bedroom to see what all the noise is about?
Old 23 August 2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
What are you supposed to do if you baracade yourself in and your children are in the other part of the house and come out of their bedroom to see what all the noise is about?
That was on the following weeks show, which I missed
Old 23 August 2007, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
Nah mate round here theyre all teenagers and smackheads. The only weapon they have is saliva and maybe a used needle.
Actually a potential weapon for me. I'm a diabetic and always carry a needle. I'd not hesitate to whip it out if cornered because a/ I know I wouldn't want to take a chance being injected by a needle I know not much about and b/ 100 units of insulin will, at best, put the ****** to sleep for quite some time...
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A friend of mine knows the guy who is the bouncer on Jeremy Kyle (also does door work in Oldham) if you have ever watched it you will have seen him.

anyway years ago some feckin' low life broke into his house the next thing hes confronted by this bald headed 6' 4" 18 stone bloke with a baseball bat, not content with chasing him out of the front door, he chased him butt naked (so the story goes) down the street.

Now if it was me, high as a kite or not and i was confronted by some big nasty bloke like that, then i would run as well.
Old 23 August 2007, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
A friend of mine knows the guy who is the bouncer on Jeremy Kyle (also does door work in Oldham) if you have ever watched it you will have seen him.

anyway years ago some feckin' low life broke into his house the next thing hes confronted by this bald headed 6' 4" 18 stone bloke with a baseball bat, not content with chasing him out of the front door, he chased him butt naked (so the story goes) down the street.

Now if it was me, high as a kite or not and i was confronted by some big nasty bloke like that, then i would run as well.
He's probably STILL running today
Old 23 August 2007, 01:13 PM
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One or two of these dogs would do the trick!

Amazing French Attack Dog video
Old 23 August 2007, 01:21 PM
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Our deterrents include two Rotties (not what we have them for, but the guarding instinct is there anyway and they are always alert to any new noises), locked garden gates, locked shed with anti theft screws on all the hinges, etc, high fence, noisy gravel and pir lighting.

Oh, and living somewhere where crime rates are significantly lower helps too. Some of our neighbours often forget to lock cars/houses etc
Old 23 August 2007, 01:22 PM
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how about a crocodile?
Old 23 August 2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
He's probably STILL running today
Shame the guy didn't live in Nottingham.
Old 23 August 2007, 01:27 PM
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gas powered bb gun with spikey metal pellets or a cross bow?

I just keep a hammer to hand


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