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Old 19 August 2007, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I am extremely proud to be able to say that I, along with most others, HAVE!!

is that the only responce you can muster up, to the many many queries/questions others have GENUINELY asked in the above posts pete?

it seems more often than not in your replies now pete you seem to only respond to the easiest of posts, and ignore the more challenging ones thrown in your way.

i dare say wou will respond me with something, whether it be sarcasm, or something minor to take the pressure off yourself.
Old 19 August 2007, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
Pete, can you answer something for me......

In the latter years of the tories, everyone used to slam them e.g. people like Mellor etc and accused them of sleaze......

Can you tell me which party has more "sleaze" episodes.... Conservative or Labour?????

Labour still rattle on now about how they are still dealing with problems they inherited from the Conservative's....
The Tories were the most corrupt and sleezy of the two
Old 19 August 2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The Tories were the most corrupt and sleezy of the two
"More".

Although I agree with the point you are making.
Old 20 August 2007, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The Tories were the most corrupt and sleezy of the two
It is patently obvious that that comment is quite untrue.

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Old 20 August 2007, 01:38 PM
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At least with the Tory sleaze only one person was being screwed at a time.
Old 20 August 2007, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
It is patently obvious that that comment is quite untrue.

Les
How many Labour MP's have ended up in prison for lying, then? .



Not that I find politicains of any persuasion to be particularly genuine. They are all cretins/liars/out for personal gain as far as I am concerned.
Old 21 August 2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
How many Labour MP's have ended up in prison for lying, then? .



Not that I find politicains of any persuasion to be particularly genuine. They are all cretins/liars/out for personal gain as far as I am concerned.
Well they do control the authorities now of course. Makes it so much easier, especially when it comes to public enquiries.

I go along with your last remark.

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Old 21 August 2007, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
is that the only responce you can muster up, to the many many queries/questions others have GENUINELY asked in the above posts pete?

it seems more often than not in your replies now pete you seem to only respond to the easiest of posts, and ignore the more challenging ones thrown in your way.

i dare say wou will respond me with something, whether it be sarcasm, or something minor to take the pressure off yourself.
He never does reply to any of the more challengeing questions

Its his style. Posts an inflamatory comment, carries on trolling for a wind up, then bails out when challenged. I've seen more substance in a paper bag.

Then he whines and cries when he gets infracted for it
Old 21 August 2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Well they do control the authorities now of course. Makes it so much easier, especially when it comes to public enquiries.


Les



What I think doesn't help Labours cause, is that they made a issue out of slease in the Tory party during the '97 election. If you are going to throw stones, you had better make sure you aren't in a glass house.

As it turns out, Labour were throwing stones in Crystal palace

Mandelson, Vaz, Byers, Blair, Prescott, Harman, Blunkett, Jowell,. Etc

All of them have been involved in varying degrees of slease - Ranging from harmless indiscretion to outright lying and disgraceful abuse of position.
Old 21 August 2007, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant



What I think doesn't help Labours cause, is that they made a issue out of slease in the Tory party during the '97 election. If you are going to throw stones, you had better make sure you aren't in a glass house.

As it turns out, Labour were throwing stones in Crystal palace

Mandelson, Vaz, Byers, Blair, Prescott, Harman, Blunkett, Jowell,. Etc

All of them have been involved in varying degrees of slease - Ranging from harmless indiscretion to outright lying and disgraceful abuse of position.

Damn, you have a good memory Pete !
Old 21 August 2007, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Damn, you have a good memory Pete !


I just have an (un)healthy interest in politics.

I don't know why, nothing winds me up more than a politician.

It's a bit like picking at a scab, I think.
Old 21 August 2007, 06:56 PM
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Labour:

Bernie Ecclestone

The government faced 'cash for access' accusations when it was alleged the formula one magnate gave a £1m donation to the party in return for the sport being exempted from the ban on tobacco advertising. The cash was later returned

Peter Mandelson

The former trade secretary resigned twice from the cabinet, initially over allegations he misled the Britannia Building Society in his mortgage application by not disclosing he had a £373,000 loan from former Labour minister Geoffrey Robinson. The second time was over the Hinduja passport affair

Tessa Jowell

She has survived her husband's entanglement with the Italian prime minister and multi-millionaire businessman Silvio Berlusconi

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Conservatives:

Jonathan Aitken

The former defence procurement minister lied over who paid for a stay at the Ritz Hotel in Paris and ended up in jail for perjury and attempting to pervert the course of justice

Dame Shirley Porter

The former Tory leader of Westminster council was ordered to pay a surcharge of £27m for her part in the "council home sales for votes" scandal of the 1980s. The law lords said attempts to gain political support by selling off council homes in marginal wards to potential Tory voters was "a deliberate, blatant and dishonest misuse of public power"

Jeffrey Archer

The former deputy party chairman resigned in 1986 after allegations that he had given money to a prostitute. He won his libel case but was later expelled by the party after claims that he had invented an alibi. He was jailed for perjury

Neil Hamilton

The former corporate affairs minister's career ended in disgrace after he faced accusations he had accepted cash from Harrods' owner Mohamed Al Fayed in exchange for asking parliamentary questions

Take your pick .....

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Old 21 August 2007, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Take your pick .....
...better still, visit Labour Sleaze and see how "whiter than white" Labour have been over the last ten or so years!!!

mb
Old 22 August 2007, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant



What I think doesn't help Labours cause, is that they made a issue out of slease in the Tory party during the '97 election. If you are going to throw stones, you had better make sure you aren't in a glass house.

As it turns out, Labour were throwing stones in Crystal palace

Mandelson, Vaz, Byers, Blair, Prescott, Harman, Blunkett, Jowell,. Etc

All of them have been involved in varying degrees of slease - Ranging from harmless indiscretion to outright lying and disgraceful abuse of position.
We are not far apart as far as those lying creeps is concerned-of all parties of course Pete.

Did PSL mention the fiddling of the postal votes in the election and how they want to extend that form of voting? Or even the results of the so called independent enquiries? I believe corruption in this country is doing its best to catch up with that in the Eu!

Les
Old 22 August 2007, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
We are not far apart as far as those lying creeps is concerned-of all parties of course Pete.

Did PSL mention the fiddling of the postal votes in the election and how they want to extend that form of voting? Or even the results of the so called independent enquiries? I believe corruption in this country is doing its best to catch up with that in the Eu!

Les
And politicans wonder why ther is voter apathy!
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