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Old 11 September 2007, 12:51 PM
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2.5 rebuild

Old 11 September 2007, 12:53 PM
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So Frayz

What are the plans for the Car

Surely not just a fast road car

or could we be seeing you in Time Attack next year?


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Old 11 September 2007, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by phil_stephens
So Frayz

What are the plans for the Car

Surely not just a fast road car

or could we be seeing you in Time Attack next year?


Phil
Hmmm, that would be good

So how many Mocom prepared cars will there be in it next Year, 1,2,3 or even 4?
Old 11 September 2007, 02:40 PM
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might as well call it the mocom series
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Originally Posted by phil_stephens
So Frayz

What are the plans for the Car

Surely not just a fast road car

or could we be seeing you in Time Attack next year?


Phil
Yep, just a fast road/track, ring car mate.

I said to someone else today who was pushing me towards the TA. The TA is for big boys with big chequebooks, we all know the biggest chequebook wins. My car is also a road car with an interior, knowing me, i dont see the point of entering unless i have a shot at winning. Id want to strip the **** off it and wind it up to over 600bhp.

If i cant do it properly i wont do it at all.

2nd place is the first loser, and i know i wont even be there
Old 11 September 2007, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Yep, just a fast road/track, ring car mate.

I said to someone else today who was pushing me towards the TA. The TA is for big boys with big chequebooks, we all know the biggest chequebook wins. My car is also a road car with an interior, knowing me, i dont see the point of entering unless i have a shot at winning. Id want to strip the **** off it and wind it up to over 600bhp.

If i cant do it properly i wont do it at all.

2nd place is the first loser, and i know i wont even be there
Sounds like a lot of excuses to me

I think you'll find the biggest chequebook didn't win the series anyway, although that would have been the car we would have all taken home given the choice.
Old 11 September 2007, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Sounds like a lot of excuses to me

I think you'll find the biggest chequebook didn't win the series anyway, although that would have been the car we would have all taken home given the choice.
Very true....

3rd place was won in the club class by a pretty low budget car...
The first two being pro class boys who ticked the wrong box on the form!
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Sounds like a lot of excuses to me

I think you'll find the biggest chequebook didn't win the series anyway, although that would have been the car we would have all taken home given the choice.
No excuses needed when i have nothing to prove
Old 12 September 2007, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
No excuses needed when i have nothing to prove
Ok mate!
Old 12 September 2007, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Ok mate!
Unless you know otherwise?
Old 12 September 2007, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Unless you know otherwise?
Mate, it just seems a shame to be planning such a high spec build and then not prove yourself and the car, out where it really counts.
Believe me if I had the budget I would not be just helping Mike out at with TA.
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Mate, it just seems a shame to be planning such a high spec build and then not prove yourself and the car, out where it really counts.
Believe me if I had the budget I would not be just helping Mike out at with TA.
But im building the car for me, not for anyone else. I want it to be what i want it to be, not because i have anything to prove.

Gotta remember fella, im still only 23. Its enough to afford to build the car to the spec i want it to, let alone the cost of racing it too. You of all people know what it costs to build a fully forged 2.5 with worked heads and cams leave alone the price of a turbo, fuel system, clutch etc etc.

Funk me rods and pistons are £1500 alone, block and crank are £1600, £180 for bearings, £170 for oil pump, £160 for head stsuds, £1000 cams, £1500 for turbo, £1300 for a clutch, £400 for valves, £1125 for an intercooler, Plus valve springs, seats, retainers, gaskets, baffled sump, portwork .... the list goes on.

To me the TA an expense for a half hearted effort. If it was a stripped out, caged 650bhp animal i could see your point, but it has a radio and air con and im no "Ari Vatters''.

I dont see the point of doing something half heartedly.. rather not do it at all.

If i get the 6 numbers up on sat, i'll enter the TA

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Old 12 September 2007, 12:29 PM
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I'm getting my popcorn......
Old 12 September 2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
But im building the car for me, not for anyone else. I want it to be what i want it to be, not because i have anything to prove.

Gotta remember fella, im still only 23. Its enough to afford to build the car to the spec i want it to, let alone the cost of racing it too. You of all people know what it costs to build a fully forged 2.5 with worked heads and cams leave alone the price of a turbo, fuel system, clutch etc etc.

Funk me rods and pistons are £1500 alone, block and crank are £1300, £180 for bearings, £150 for oil pump, £150 for head stsuds, £1000 cams, £1000 for turbo, £1300 for a clutch, £400 for valves, £1000 for an intercooler, Plus valve springs, seats, retainers, gaskets, baffled sump, portwork .... the list goes on.

To me the TA an expense for a half hearted effort. If it was a stripped out, caged 650bhp animal i could see your point, but it has a radio and air con and im no "Ari Vatters''.

I dont see the point of doing something half heartedly.. rather not do it at all.

If i get the 6 numbers up on sat, i'll enter the TA
Frayz, agree fully - build the car for what you want

And yes I do know the cost!

TA rules are almost completely open, even in club. but this was always intended for people with high performance modded road cars, rather than out and out race cars. I guess in this respect it has lost it's way a little, as next year both Pro and club will be full of 'race' spec cars.

As for not being 'Ari Vatters', you do sign off as faster than you think you are, so......
Old 12 September 2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
I'm getting my popcorn......
Haven't you had enough popcorn

And anyway shouldn't you be searching through ebay for something
Old 12 September 2007, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
And anyway shouldn't you be searching through ebay for something
Oui (and thats a hint)
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nintendo or the excess fluid that you pass through your body
Old 12 September 2007, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mneame
nintendo or the excess fluid that you pass through your body

Neither but time is now of the essense if we are to use the purchase
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snails for fishing or something that's coming up next month?
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Originally Posted by mneame
snails for fishing or something that's coming up next month?
Something for the weekend!
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Neither but time is now of the essense if we are to use the purchase
Oui, as in French not flemsih



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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Frayz, agree fully - build the car for what you want

And yes I do know the cost!

TA rules are almost completely open, even in club. but this was always intended for people with high performance modded road cars, rather than out and out race cars. I guess in this respect it has lost it's way a little, as next year both Pro and club will be full of 'race' spec cars.

As for not being 'Ari Vatters', you do sign off as faster than you think you are, so......

I may well be faster than you think you are, however Ari Vatenen was faster than that
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i was a stig b fan myself

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Originally Posted by peter budgen
i was a stig b fan myself

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Old 13 September 2007, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
I may well be faster than you think you are, however Ari Vatenen was faster than that

You may well be faster than me, i'm an old man approaching the pipe and slipper stage. But I have the trophies to remind me how quick I was
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Something for the weekend!



Surely you aint got any more spare time
Old 13 September 2007, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tiny01


Surely you aint got any more spare time
You can talk!

Prob not going to happen now, but did involve a mad dash overseas!
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
You may well be faster than me, i'm an old man approaching the pipe and slipper stage. But I have the trophies to remind me how quick I was
I wouldn't want to go up against you!
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Even @ Fishing he's so competetive



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