Sounds a bit like Tiny 'No more Mods'

 

I'd go with what you've got, would you really notice the difference between the 2 as you say figures aren't everything it's how it drives that matters and i'm sure Zak will be able to make the most of your current setup when he maps it

 

I'd agree with Ian, my wagon has spent so much time off the road over the last 18months I've hardly driven it...yours going to be pretty blooming rapid anyway

 

The slightly smaller turbo will be more responsive and unless you are chasing dyno queen results, then response and torque are where its at

And lets be frank, if at some point you then felt the need to upgrade, it's hardly a lot of work to change a turbo over is it?

 

Its not hard no, and yes it will work on the 7cm housing but it will be restrictive on the increased breathing of the 2.5.

Ive gone to the effort of making everything else as best i can, i want to make the most of it and not waste the uber strong internals by not using the turbos possible potential.

Having put in the effort to do it right, i cant be arsed with funking about swaping bits any more.

 

Then why pose the question, just fit the bigger HTA Green?

having recently driven another modded scoob with a 2.1 and 360ish bhp, and bigger turbo than mine, I know which set up I would prefer for road use, and indeed around the lanes i would argue the responsive/torquey option would be quicker!

 

hey.... so much for taking it easy with the split cooling pipe and severe knocking..

 

I wouldnt say the HTA is not responsive though - I can get 2 bar at 3000 if I want it.

The 7cm will run out of puff at the top end - if you are worried about it then just change the exhaust side for the 8cm.

 

Thats exactly what ive been saying Dunc.

I wanna swap it out for the 8cm from the word go but Zak wants to test the 7cm to see how far it will go.

All im saying is, i cant be arsed to start swapping things once ive got it all nicely fitted, and aligned on the bench before fitting the motor back in. Only to have to remove the turbo again shortly after.

Either way, we both know it will be so much better on the 8cm, so id rather do that from the outset.

 

It would be a valid test of the 7cm version though - I could see the attraction of doing it. Its only an afternoon changing turbo though even with my 'computer fingers'

 

Who mentioned your car?

 

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Is that not fixed yet Mike ?

You all set for Sunday ?

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normal service resumes

 

 

Knocking?

 

Sorry small hyjack of the thread......


Will be interested to see what you achieve with the build...
more improtantly would be good to see it on track used in anger...

 

Yes mate, i totally agree. Its been too long and im itching to get it out on track. Its what ive been building up to for such along time now. Its been a case of get the car exactly as i want it before i do.

Get her run in and a proper map in it, coilovers on whenever they or if the ever arrive and i'll get something booked up

 

Getting it exactly how you want is the holy grail... I imagine there will always be something that can be improved. I'm trying to get mine to point where it is how I want it before tracking it, but keep getting different ideas and hitting financial walls .

Are you going to can the V3's and go for something else or wait it out?

 

i've always been from the school of drive what you've got and build up to and beyond what the cars capable of and then improve it....

but i also buy into the fact that you will driver better and faster if you have confidence in your car... hence the desire to get it right first...

either way i know you will enjoy the fruits of your labour when you can really push it and the track is the perfect place to do it... you can see, feel and just know each time you get a bend right/wrong, etc.
Plus more often than not you can gauge yourself against another driver or car and get great satisfaction from beating/matching or just improving against them...

 

Good words Mike, agree 100%

But you know how **** i am about getting things right so hence why ive taken so long.

 

Told you, you should have tightened all the nuts!













Don't worry it's not the engine.

 

Had a horrid feeling for a while there

 

Frayz how is your PC680 battery working out ? Is it on a trickle charge or is it good for even your occasional use ?

 

Crap phone pic, but i got some time free to start stripping the engine bay tonight.

All openings are capped to prevent any contamination, all wires are zip tied and all multiplugs have been bagged and zipped to prevent any water ingress.

Still waiting on an engine crane but im off the the WRC Germany next week so it wont come out before then anyway.

But at least you can see ive done something... the bulllet has well and truely been bitten!!

 

Got myself an engine crane today...

Lets get WRC germany out of the way next weekend and i'll be hitting the car hard on my return... ive a few new ideas for the build too

 

Frayz, have you sorted your KW's yet mate, only I was in Elite on saturday and they sell KW's.

Don't know if your having bespoke made but could be worth talking to them

 

Apparantly we've been promised by the MD in Germany that mine will be here by Friday... im not holding my breath but we shall see.

Cheers anyways Dave.

 

i saw the kw stand at autotuner on sunday and was tempted to go and speak to them for you. was going to give you a ring but not got your number on my new phone. they had some pretty impressive looking kit on show.

 

You could pick them up yourself

 

Id rather not mate... if i saw anyone from KW that was responsible for the agro ive had they would probably be wearing the fu*king things!

 

Little update as of tonight.

Havent done much what with WRC in the way but hoping to use the bank holiday weekend to good effect.

Heres the latest..

All intake gone, radpack out and downpipe ready to lift off.