wrx-kris

just buy a **** car like an astra and run it on red

matchmaker

So at 25 knots that's (roughly) 5 gallons/mile

Makes my 7.8 mpg round Knockhill look tame

easyrider

LOL-Puts things into context a bit eh.

They do say, if you want to get skint quickly, get powerboat!!!

To those of you that are thinking of putting cooking oil in your tanks of older diesels-it may be worth checking that its ok to do it, as IIRC some of the older vehicles have different rubber seals/fuel lines compared to newer cars-so the oil can break the compound of the rubber down-newer cars are more geared up for "bio diesel"

Gary

Minitrue

Bio-diesel and vegetable oil are quite different. Bio-diesel is RME (rapeseed methyl ester, essentially vegetable oil treated with caustic soda and methanol) and this can disolve rubber pipes: vegetable oil is quite safe though and it smells nice... SVO will make short work of Lucas/CAV type diesel pumps though; to use it sucessfully youll need a Bosch type pump.

MoT

sbk1972

I ran a citroen ax on red diesel and found it far more responsive. Customs do not dip anymore, and instead use litmus paper on the exhaust. Yes, I have seen road side tests around Guildford and Wallington, Surrey.

Veg oil in a diesel does work, better on certain engines, than others. Mainly ones with mechanical pumps. Electric ones tend to `hunt`. Go for veg oil that is rapeseed, as sunflower oil is thicker. Depending on the weather, hot weather you can use a higher oil to diesel ratio, colder weather you have to lower it as veg oil glumps.

JDM diesels, i.e. pajeros, can suffer pump failure, as veg oil is a cleaner and cleans the fuel system, can eat / shrinker the seals on the pumps.

Currently, you need to register as an oil supplier, paying 48p on every litre of veg oil u use. However, this law is meant to change, so that you can use 2500 litres without having to register.

Im registered, but have found that my 2.8 pajero doesnt have too much power on anything over 50/50 veg/diesel. In my old 2.5 pajero, I had it up to 80/20 veg oil /diesel.

Bio diesel, yes its normally used oil, with caustic soda in to clean out the crap. However, traits of caustic soda are left behind and can really damage your fuel system. Have seen this on various pajero's.



SBK

Minitrue

You can pay 27p duty if the oil is used..... What defines used oil isnt clearly defined though (making a convenient loophole).

With regards to RME (bio diesel): after the tranesterification process has been completed, the only by-product should be glycerin. There shouldnt be any trace of the catalysts used remaining in the finished product. It does eat seals though...

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

My ahem "friend" just poured it straight in it was fine in the summer but best to thin it down a bit in the winter. Bearing in mind this was a n reg non turbo laguna I wouldn't like to try it on a state of the art mercedes diesel engine . Never had any problems with it. done the 400 mile trip to swindon and back on 11 bottles of 3 litre asda veg oil and it cost just over £15

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

Never had any smells from using veg oil, probably stinks if your using your chip shops batter and cod infested old oil though

Minitrue

Vehetable oil smells like the back of a MacDonalds, the smell is extremely noticable and it remains even with only a small amount of SVO (compared to DERV) in the tank.

Leslie

Those who have used red diesel in their cars and reverted to the legal stuff have often been caught by the red dye in the fuel filter element! Just something else to consider.

Les

powerman1

its not the smell thats the problem its all the dogs that chase you around and sit outside your house howling on a night waiting for you to start the engine up

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

A little experiment brainiac styleee totally scientific and totally proves svo does not stink like a chip shop

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ps anyone want to buy a di vectra with a blown engine I know someone who has one