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Old 22 March 2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sonu
Easy on the stereotypes. I know plenty of 'Indians' who flash the cash!
OOh, sorry if Im not being politically correct....I also know plenty who like to flash the cash....but they usually happen to be the ones who have come into the money rather quickly shall we say....I'll stop stereotyping on that note!!
Old 22 March 2007, 02:58 PM
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It's not about being "politically correct", it's about the racial overtonnes.
Old 22 March 2007, 03:02 PM
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Oh come on there's nothing wrong with his comment - nothng insulting, just a bit of friendly banter! Its quite correct too in many cases!
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I found it offensive.
Old 22 March 2007, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sonu
I found it offensive.
oh well
Old 22 March 2007, 03:40 PM
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Ok everybody calm down, I've 'known' Turbo quite some time and it was meant tongue in cheek and thats how I took it. Anyway its a complement I suppose, I'd rather be careful with my cash than flash.

Scoobyboy, in my younger days I changed cars all the time and wasted alot of cash. In 8 years I owned one Astra,two Peugeot GTis, four BMWs and four Scoobs!
But you're right I test drive alot of cars! I might actually buy one soon!
Old 22 March 2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Ok everybody calm down, I've 'known' Turbo quite some time and it was meant tongue in cheek and thats how I took it. Anyway its a complement I suppose, I'd rather be careful with my cash than flash.

Scoobyboy, in my younger days I changed cars all the time and wasted alot of cash. In 8 years I owned one Astra,two Peugeot GTis, four BMWs and four Scoobs!
But you're right I test drive alot of cars! I might actually buy one soon!
Thanks for that Deep, Im glad everyone is not as sensitive as Sonu!

The remark was indeed meant tongue in cheek, besides which I am Asian too, and I also am very prudent when it comes to major purchases such as cars....

I completely understand Deep's attention to his research, and I use a similarly thorough approach.......its saved me £££s!
Old 22 March 2007, 05:11 PM
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Nothing to do with sensitivity, it's how attitudes to people from other backgrounds can escalate in the wrong direction.
Old 22 March 2007, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Ok everybody calm down, I've 'known' Turbo quite some time and it was meant tongue in cheek and thats how I took it. Anyway its a complement I suppose, I'd rather be careful with my cash than flash.

Scoobyboy, in my younger days I changed cars all the time and wasted alot of cash. In 8 years I owned one Astra,two Peugeot GTis, four BMWs and four Scoobs!
But you're right I test drive alot of cars! I might actually buy one soon!
Your right, thats probably why I've got no cash and go through so many cars, as I always assume the car I want is the first car that comes into my head when im looking for a new motor!!!!!!

Anyway good luck in your search for the perfect car!!!!!

And I expect to see a review on here of the new BMW E90 M3 when its out!!!!!
Old 22 March 2007, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1

Anyway good luck in your search for the perfect car!!!!!

And I expect to see a review on here of the new BMW E90 M3 when its out!!!!!

Already booked mate!
Old 22 March 2007, 09:27 PM
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The E90 M3 motor is not as good as the RS4's V8, going by the the graphs and on paper figures Ive seen.
Old 22 March 2007, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
The E90 M3 motor is not as good as the RS4's V8, going by the the graphs and on paper figures Ive seen.
Please please go away and dont spoil this thread....
Old 22 March 2007, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
The E90 M3 motor is not as good as the RS4's V8, going by the the graphs and on paper figures Ive seen.
AL, contrary to your own beliefs there more to life than graphs and figures.

You one track record (yawn)

PS i dare you to make a post not using the words Audi or Merc just for a change.
Old 22 March 2007, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by turboman786
Please please go away and dont spoil this thread....
too late for that. Just dont want to hear something you wont like?
Old 22 March 2007, 10:10 PM
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Let me just put it like this, if you dont like the S2000's engine, chances are you wont like the latest M3 engine either
Old 22 March 2007, 10:15 PM
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Isn't Ting Tong keeping you busy tonight AL?
Old 22 March 2007, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Isn't Ting Tong keeping you busy tonight AL?
No, Its kiwi GTI who rents Ping Pong every night, no one else every gets a look in. Bloody I.T nerd
Old 23 March 2007, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
The E90 M3 motor is not as good as the RS4's V8, going by the the graphs and on paper figures Ive seen.
AL,

Stop spouting ****

I'll humour you on this one with the BMW article on the new M3 V8

"BMW has just released all the details you could ever want to know about its newest V8, and the power numbers look to take the M3 to the next level. The 4.0L engine is derived from the potent 5.0L V10 in the M5 and M6. The aluminum and composite engine weighs only 445 lbs, 33 lbs less than the base 3-Series' inline-six. And to fully-realize all 420 hp from the V8, which features Double Vanos valve technology, you can rev the motor to an RX-8-like 8,300 rpm. The M3 will also carry 295 ft-lbs of torque, 85% of which is available at 2,000 rpm."

How exactly is that "weak" against an RS4 motor. At least it'll be nestled nicely between, and mostly behind, the front axle line. Audi still insist on hanging their engines out to dry at the front. Understeer anyone?

Matt
Old 23 March 2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MattOz
AL,

Stop spouting ****

I'll humour you on this one with the BMW article on the new M3 V8

"BMW has just released all the details you could ever want to know about its newest V8, and the power numbers look to take the M3 to the next level. The 4.0L engine is derived from the potent 5.0L V10 in the M5 and M6. The aluminum and composite engine weighs only 445 lbs, 33 lbs less than the base 3-Series' inline-six. And to fully-realize all 420 hp from the V8, which features Double Vanos valve technology, you can rev the motor to an RX-8-like 8,300 rpm. The M3 will also carry 295 ft-lbs of torque, 85% of which is available at 2,000 rpm."

How exactly is that "weak" against an RS4 motor. At least it'll be nestled nicely between, and mostly behind, the front axle line. Audi still insist on hanging their engines out to dry at the front. Understeer anyone?

Matt


lol at those sugar coated figures.

also "lol" at the weak old stereotypical views that audi engines are mounted way up front.

You do know that the A8 is 2nd only to the new S-class, the TT has been beating the cayman and Z4 day in day out as a overall car and the R8 is mid engined, the Q7 is also superior to the pointless, 5 series on stilts, X5. Also the new A5 has a better weight distribution than any 4wd BMW 3-series
Old 23 March 2007, 07:40 PM
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AL,

Vocally, the new RS4 is fantastic. It's beautifully built to boot.

However, have you ever driven an RS4 or RS6? Have you ever driven an M3 or M5 in comparison. Have you ever owned any of these cars, or have you simply read Audi press releases and articles about them and the competition?

Until you have comprehensively driven them and then owned one or more of them, ease up on your rose tinted Audi views. It's tedious to say the least.

Having driven all the modern "performance" Audis, I can confirm, IMHO, that Audi still has some way to go. Engines, chassis and steering are all still some way off BMW. Even an E90 on runflats has superior handling to the new RS4 and is streets ahead of the RS6. Note that I said handling, not grip.

Look forward to hearing your actual views and impressions once you've spent significant time in the driving seat assessing the competition.

Matt
Old 23 March 2007, 11:25 PM
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Matt, why are you even bothering when you know he is a wind up merchant?
Old 24 March 2007, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MattOz
AL,

Vocally, the new RS4 is fantastic. It's beautifully built to boot.

However, have you ever driven an RS4 or RS6? Have you ever driven an M3 or M5 in comparison. Have you ever owned any of these cars, or have you simply read Audi press releases and articles about them and the competition?

Until you have comprehensively driven them and then owned one or more of them, ease up on your rose tinted Audi views. It's tedious to say the least.

Having driven all the modern "performance" Audis, I can confirm, IMHO, that Audi still has some way to go. Engines, chassis and steering are all still some way off BMW. Even an E90 on runflats has superior handling to the new RS4 and is streets ahead of the RS6. Note that I said handling, not grip.

Look forward to hearing your actual views and impressions once you've spent significant time in the driving seat assessing the competition.

Matt
So tell me how do BMW's have superior handling when the RS4 is faster round the 'ring than the more powerful M5, M6 and easily beats the M3.

Infact even the new S3 beats the M3, 335i and Scooby round tracks like hockenheim etc.

And then theres the R8, you trying to tell me theres a BMW to challenge that beast.

Your views of audi are outdated. Get with the times
Old 24 March 2007, 12:40 PM
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Audi have for along time placed their engines over the front axle of the car making them dogs for handling - understeer understeer understeer.

More recently with the RS4 (not sure about the S3) - they seem to have taken their sports model a little more seriously and placed the engine more towards the driver (ie behind the front axle) - resulting in a much improved handling/balanced car.

Audi have a cracking reputation for build quality - it makes a change to see them actually trying to put some effort into the driving experience !
Old 24 March 2007, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gastro
Audi have for along time placed their engines over the front axle of the car making them dogs for handling - understeer understeer understeer.

More recently with the RS4 (not sure about the S3) - they seem to have taken their sports model a little more seriously and placed the engine more towards the driver (ie behind the front axle) - resulting in a much improved handling/balanced car.

Audi have a cracking reputation for build quality - it makes a change to see them actually trying to put some effort into the driving experience !

Go test drive the new TT, the new S3, and the new S8. I think your views might change rather drastically afterwards. As for the S3, its a much much quicker than the R32 and 130i and has been beating STI's also. Its an amazing machine not to take lightly. A nice little factory optional MTM remap makes it even faster still
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Go test drive the new TT, the new S3, and the new S8. I think your views might change rather drastically afterwards. As for the S3, its a much much quicker than the R32 and 130i and has been beating STI's also. Its an amazing machine not to take lightly. A nice little factory optional MTM remap makes it even faster still
Have you driven any of the cars as listed above?....

New S3?
New S8?
r32?
130i?

Simple question, have you or havn't you?
Old 24 March 2007, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by turboman786
Have you driven any of the cars as listed above?....

New S3?
New S8?
r32?
130i?

Simple question, have you or havn't you?

1.yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. passenger

happy?
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
1.yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. passenger

happy?
No, I don't think anyone believes you. On another thread you have just claimed to have driven each and every Audi model on sale bar the R8.

Does anyone on here believe him? (I remember that lexus testdrive report you wrote up) You are a joke.
Old 24 March 2007, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
1.yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. passenger

happy?
I was happy and will remain happy irrespective of your patehtic little posts!!

I dont beleive you for a second....

So explain to us how and in what circumstances you drove the above....

I can see Audi dealers falling over themslelves to give testdrives to some blue collar worker in a ropey van!!LOL!!
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Back on subject....

So tell me how do BMW's have superior handling when the RS4 is faster round the 'ring than the more powerful M5, M6 and easily beats the M3.
MattOz did say handling not grip.
The Lotus Elise for instance will have handling light years away from an RS4 yet would have it's **** handed to it round the ring


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