DC2 Integra Type R
18 February 2007, 01:36 PM
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Here's my teggy! 
Looking to get the wheels refurbed and the front bumper re-sprayed to get rid of the usual stone chips.
Hope you like!
Looking to get the wheels refurbed and the front bumper re-sprayed to get rid of the usual stone chips.
Hope you like!
18 February 2007, 03:20 PM
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Looks good. You enjoying it?
Makes me want another one!
Did you get A/C?
Best mod I think is the later gunmetal alloys
MB
Makes me want another one!
Did you get A/C?
Best mod I think is the later gunmetal alloys
MB
18 February 2007, 04:34 PM
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Its a non air-con model.
I am thinking of getting the wheels sprayed gunmetal, but I will lose the originallity!
The best thing about these cars is the way they build power.
It really is a torquey beast even below 6K (VTEC Zone). And when it comes on cam, the noise it makes is sexual!
The gearbox is smooth, the clutch is light, throttle response is instant and the best thing of all, is the steering. It is actually quite heavy, which I like as you get to feel everything that is going on. I gave it some stick round a few roundabouts today and it was awesome. No understeer whatsoever, just a bit of oversteer but it was so controllable.
Obviously, from a standing start, it isn't as quick as my old scoob, but from 40-110mph, there really isn't that much in it. AND IT DOES OVER 30MPG!!!
I will miss the scoob as it made you feel invincible and they are very capable cars. But, for pure driving enjoyment, it has to be the teg. You also feel like you're driving something 'extra special'.
I am thinking of getting the wheels sprayed gunmetal, but I will lose the originallity!
The best thing about these cars is the way they build power.
It really is a torquey beast even below 6K (VTEC Zone). And when it comes on cam, the noise it makes is sexual!
The gearbox is smooth, the clutch is light, throttle response is instant and the best thing of all, is the steering. It is actually quite heavy, which I like as you get to feel everything that is going on. I gave it some stick round a few roundabouts today and it was awesome. No understeer whatsoever, just a bit of oversteer but it was so controllable.
Obviously, from a standing start, it isn't as quick as my old scoob, but from 40-110mph, there really isn't that much in it. AND IT DOES OVER 30MPG!!!
I will miss the scoob as it made you feel invincible and they are very capable cars. But, for pure driving enjoyment, it has to be the teg. You also feel like you're driving something 'extra special'.
18 February 2007, 06:29 PM
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My old one. 5 years on and it's still one of the best drivers cars I've owned.
And red ones were always significantly faster than the magnolia efforts
19 February 2007, 11:13 AM
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Two days in and can't find a bad thing to say about these cars!
Just got to decide which colour to have the wheels when I get them refurbished. Think I am going to stick with the championship white, but they also look good in gunmetal.
Just got to decide which colour to have the wheels when I get them refurbished. Think I am going to stick with the championship white, but they also look good in gunmetal.
19 February 2007, 11:36 AM
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Black or gunmetal wheels on white cars look hot
19 February 2007, 11:53 AM
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Its a non air-con model.
I am thinking of getting the wheels sprayed gunmetal, but I will lose the originallity!
The best thing about these cars is the way they build power.
It really is a torquey beast even below 6K (VTEC Zone). And when it comes on cam, the noise it makes is sexual!
The gearbox is smooth, the clutch is light, throttle response is instant and the best thing of all, is the steering. It is actually quite heavy, which I like as you get to feel everything that is going on. I gave it some stick round a few roundabouts today and it was awesome. No understeer whatsoever, just a bit of oversteer but it was so controllable.
Obviously, from a standing start, it isn't as quick as my old scoob, but from 40-110mph, there really isn't that much in it. AND IT DOES OVER 30MPG!!!
I will miss the scoob as it made you feel invincible and they are very capable cars. But, for pure driving enjoyment, it has to be the teg. You also feel like you're driving something 'extra special'.
I am thinking of getting the wheels sprayed gunmetal, but I will lose the originallity!
The best thing about these cars is the way they build power.
It really is a torquey beast even below 6K (VTEC Zone). And when it comes on cam, the noise it makes is sexual!
The gearbox is smooth, the clutch is light, throttle response is instant and the best thing of all, is the steering. It is actually quite heavy, which I like as you get to feel everything that is going on. I gave it some stick round a few roundabouts today and it was awesome. No understeer whatsoever, just a bit of oversteer but it was so controllable.
Obviously, from a standing start, it isn't as quick as my old scoob, but from 40-110mph, there really isn't that much in it. AND IT DOES OVER 30MPG!!!
I will miss the scoob as it made you feel invincible and they are very capable cars. But, for pure driving enjoyment, it has to be the teg. You also feel like you're driving something 'extra special'.
My thoughts exactly on the 'Teg
19 February 2007, 12:28 PM
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Its a non air-con model.
I am thinking of getting the wheels sprayed gunmetal, but I will lose the originallity!
The best thing about these cars is the way they build power.
It really is a torquey beast even below 6K (VTEC Zone). And when it comes on cam, the noise it makes is sexual!
The gearbox is smooth, the clutch is light, throttle response is instant and the best thing of all, is the steering. It is actually quite heavy, which I like as you get to feel everything that is going on. I gave it some stick round a few roundabouts today and it was awesome. No understeer whatsoever, just a bit of oversteer but it was so controllable.
Obviously, from a standing start, it isn't as quick as my old scoob, but from 40-110mph, there really isn't that much in it. AND IT DOES OVER 30MPG!!!
I will miss the scoob as it made you feel invincible and they are very capable cars. But, for pure driving enjoyment, it has to be the teg. You also feel like you're driving something 'extra special'.
I am thinking of getting the wheels sprayed gunmetal, but I will lose the originallity!
The best thing about these cars is the way they build power.
It really is a torquey beast even below 6K (VTEC Zone). And when it comes on cam, the noise it makes is sexual!
The gearbox is smooth, the clutch is light, throttle response is instant and the best thing of all, is the steering. It is actually quite heavy, which I like as you get to feel everything that is going on. I gave it some stick round a few roundabouts today and it was awesome. No understeer whatsoever, just a bit of oversteer but it was so controllable.
Obviously, from a standing start, it isn't as quick as my old scoob, but from 40-110mph, there really isn't that much in it. AND IT DOES OVER 30MPG!!!
I will miss the scoob as it made you feel invincible and they are very capable cars. But, for pure driving enjoyment, it has to be the teg. You also feel like you're driving something 'extra special'.
Don't worry about the wheels, get them whatever colour you want as you can always change them back again when you come to sell.
Mooseracer, stop being a ****, everyone knows that black is the fastest colour
19 February 2007, 06:26 PM
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As a little giggle take the airbox cover off and have a drive round for a little while.See if you can tell when the VTEC changeover happens .Dont worry wont harm it in anyway but you WILL be amazed.
(Oh leave the airfilter in of course when you take the cover off )
.Dont worry wont harm it in anyway but you WILL be amazed. (Oh leave the airfilter in of course when you take the cover off
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20 February 2007, 12:25 AM
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Aren't they like £400?? For a box! 
Thanks for the comments.
You really do have to drive these cars very differently compared to the impreza. Yes, you have to change gear a lot more, but I like that, and its not as though its difficult. It's actually a joy going through the gears and into 5th by 40mph!
The gears are also perfectly spaced for relaxed, brisk driving.
And as for the 'no torque' brigade, I can stick the teg in 5th at 30mph and leave it there due to the short final drive ratio, and it really does pull.
If you've never driven one...believe the hype!
Thanks for the comments.
You really do have to drive these cars very differently compared to the impreza. Yes, you have to change gear a lot more, but I like that, and its not as though its difficult. It's actually a joy going through the gears and into 5th by 40mph!
The gears are also perfectly spaced for relaxed, brisk driving.
And as for the 'no torque' brigade, I can stick the teg in 5th at 30mph and leave it there due to the short final drive ratio, and it really does pull.
If you've never driven one...believe the hype!
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20 February 2007, 08:20 AM
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20 February 2007, 08:51 AM
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I doubt it!
I do miss the scooby, i'm bound to after owning one for 3 years. In particular, the noise, 4wd, capability and relentless speed.
But, I always craved more power. In the integra, I don't. Now that says something!
I thought my clutch slipped last night when I floored the teg in 2nd. Then I did it again and realised that it was just how fast the revs climb.
I do miss the scooby, i'm bound to after owning one for 3 years. In particular, the noise, 4wd, capability and relentless speed.
But, I always craved more power. In the integra, I don't. Now that says something!
I thought my clutch slipped last night when I floored the teg in 2nd. Then I did it again and realised that it was just how fast the revs climb.
20 February 2007, 08:57 AM
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Nice car there good buy
Just out of interest on the subject of wheels.... we had 16" alloys on ours and it just seemed to fill the arches a bit more and had no adverse effect on the handling, if anything was slightly better.
Just out of interest on the subject of wheels.... we had 16" alloys on ours and it just seemed to fill the arches a bit more and had no adverse effect on the handling, if anything was slightly better.
20 February 2007, 12:06 PM
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Gruppe M is the daddy of intakes
I had one on the S - think it was £1500
But the ITG Maxogen is the one of choice / price on the ITR IMO.
MB
I had one on the S - think it was £1500
But the ITG Maxogen is the one of choice / price on the ITR IMO.
MB
20 February 2007, 12:12 PM
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"The gears are also perfectly spaced for relaxed, brisk driving.
And as for the 'no torque' brigade, I can stick the teg in 5th at 30mph and leave it there due to the short final drive ratio, and it really does pull"
Your right there mate, unfortunately the "no torque brigade" on here are generally the ones who haven't driven em and don't understand the concept of light weight/short gearing.
Great choice of motor by the way , used to have CW one of these for 3.5 years, longest Ive owned a car for, always brought a smile to my face, and could punch well above its weight. Once read a performance car review which stated "you feel you have to drive everywhere like your on a qualifying lap" this unfortunately is quite right, the noise and rawness and its shear ability and feedback you get through the wheel is so damn addictive. As for straight line pace..well my mate had a classic scoob with prodrive exhaust and induction and whilst there was nothing in it from a rolling start, the Teg starting reeling the scoob in (albeit very slowly) once at the top of fourth and 5th gears. Ive now got a DC5,seemed the only natural thing to replace it with .
Cheers
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And as for the 'no torque' brigade, I can stick the teg in 5th at 30mph and leave it there due to the short final drive ratio, and it really does pull"
Your right there mate, unfortunately the "no torque brigade" on here are generally the ones who haven't driven em and don't understand the concept of light weight/short gearing.
Great choice of motor by the way
, used to have CW one of these for 3.5 years, longest Ive owned a car for, always brought a smile to my face, and could punch well above its weight. Once read a performance car review which stated "you feel you have to drive everywhere like your on a qualifying lap" this unfortunately is quite right, the noise and rawness and its shear ability and feedback you get through the wheel is so damn addictive. As for straight line pace..well my mate had a classic scoob with prodrive exhaust and induction and whilst there was nothing in it from a rolling start, the Teg starting reeling the scoob in (albeit very slowly) once at the top of fourth and 5th gears. Ive now got a DC5,seemed the only natural thing to replace it with .Cheers
Stuart
20 February 2007, 11:00 PM
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Hell no, I swapped it plus cash for the supercharger
I think they are £1500 plus new. Id never pay that for about 5 bhp
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I think they are £1500 plus new. Id never pay that for about 5 bhp
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20 February 2007, 11:37 PM
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£330 from Nengun in japan if you are prepared to wait 4 weeks. Its the only induction kit tha I would be happy with on the ITR, but then again, I am biased.
I find the traction a bit crap in the wet, wheel spin in third is not too unusual.
But they are such good fun to drive, and not too bad even out of the vtec zone, as you say.
I find the traction a bit crap in the wet, wheel spin in third is not too unusual.
But they are such good fun to drive, and not too bad even out of the vtec zone, as you say.
21 February 2007, 12:07 AM
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Apparently, this is supposed to help with the traction and stability??
Integra DC2 :: View topic - SPOON engine damper
Integra DC2 :: View topic - SPOON engine damper
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From reading this and my post on the itr forum...
Integra DC2 :: View topic - benefits of a swap ?
...i have basically come to a conclusion.
This thread compares an ITR to a UK turbo, sorry to be obvious but standard the least powerful car in the impreza turbo classic history. The difference is only 20 or so BHP whereas comparing to a jdm benchmark wrx is more like 50 BHP difference.
4WD is better for putting power down, better coming out of corners so i find it very hard to believe an ITR would be able to keep up. Higher revving/free to rev so i would assume has no engine breaking especially in comparison to a scoob.
So lets put that into a track scenario....
Scoob pulls away faster and is more able to put the higher amount of powe first. Scoob has more enging breaking (i assume) so would be able to use its crap brakes later. Tyre's screeching round a corner/roundabout would you be more confident giving it a bit more welly in a 4wd car or a fwd car?. Then coming out of the corner its more likely a 4wd more powerful car is better equipped to accelerate earlier. I fail to see except the brakes where an ITR has any advantage?.
I understand totally an ITR is "the best handling fwd car..." BUT ITS STILL FWD.
My car has problems, the back pressure from a fooked backbox is making it under-powered. On the way back from buying a s/h backbox something came flying up behind me. I didn't have to change gear, the torque of my jdm wrx picked up without having to scream the nuts off of it. So we went round a corner i go down at least twice a day, i know how hard the 4wd scoob can be pushed on that corner and knew exactly when i could accellerate hard out of the corner, then look in my rear view and see whatever it was is now 100yards further behind than it was. Pull into my slip-road to my road, and watch the car go past and it turned out to be a quite highly modded UK scoob.
My JDM being under-powered was probably weight for weight equal in power to this modded UK turbo, so it came purly down to knowing my car inside out and knowing when the power could be used. The UK flashed his lights and smiled as he drove past, basically saying well done. The driver couldn't keep up, he didn't know when to put the power down, and i'd assume an ITR driver would have to wait that split second longer before being confident enough to floor it. Being a slower car on the straights as well would only mean it would fall further into the distance....
The ITR has to be thrashed to get anywhere. I know its a V-Tec possibly the best engine's ever to be built but how long can an engine last being red-lined on every journey?. Driving from A-B in a scoob is easy and can still be driven quite fast without even breaking the 4k mark, not every journey has to be a race. In the past i've had 2 205 GTI's and a GTI-6 which are all Fwd and similar (a little less) power to an ITR. Although they were quick, they needed to be hammered and i'm sorry would in no way keep up with even a UK on straights or even on bends.
In summary all scoobs are quicker on straights and from stand-still.
I did think they were better for MPG but i'm starting to hear they are just as bad as a scoob. I also hear mod's are difficult/expensive to come by on an ITR, so if you miss the power from the scoob you don't really have much option.
I would say maybe scoobs flatter their drivers. On a track lap after lap getting to know where to floor it and using engine breaking i can only see ITR's falling back further and further. Scoob's may in general have more incompetent drivers who don't know exactly what their doing, and ITR's attract more "Driver's driver" and are more likely to know what they are doing.
2 competent drivers in both cars i really don't see there would be a comparison.
Integra DC2 :: View topic - benefits of a swap ?
...i have basically come to a conclusion.
This thread compares an ITR to a UK turbo, sorry to be obvious but standard the least powerful car in the impreza turbo classic history. The difference is only 20 or so BHP whereas comparing to a jdm benchmark wrx is more like 50 BHP difference.
4WD is better for putting power down, better coming out of corners so i find it very hard to believe an ITR would be able to keep up. Higher revving/free to rev so i would assume has no engine breaking especially in comparison to a scoob.
So lets put that into a track scenario....
Scoob pulls away faster and is more able to put the higher amount of powe first. Scoob has more enging breaking (i assume) so would be able to use its crap brakes later. Tyre's screeching round a corner/roundabout would you be more confident giving it a bit more welly in a 4wd car or a fwd car?. Then coming out of the corner its more likely a 4wd more powerful car is better equipped to accelerate earlier. I fail to see except the brakes where an ITR has any advantage?.
I understand totally an ITR is "the best handling fwd car..." BUT ITS STILL FWD.
My car has problems, the back pressure from a fooked backbox is making it under-powered. On the way back from buying a s/h backbox something came flying up behind me. I didn't have to change gear, the torque of my jdm wrx picked up without having to scream the nuts off of it. So we went round a corner i go down at least twice a day, i know how hard the 4wd scoob can be pushed on that corner and knew exactly when i could accellerate hard out of the corner, then look in my rear view and see whatever it was is now 100yards further behind than it was. Pull into my slip-road to my road, and watch the car go past and it turned out to be a quite highly modded UK scoob.
My JDM being under-powered was probably weight for weight equal in power to this modded UK turbo, so it came purly down to knowing my car inside out and knowing when the power could be used. The UK flashed his lights and smiled as he drove past, basically saying well done. The driver couldn't keep up, he didn't know when to put the power down, and i'd assume an ITR driver would have to wait that split second longer before being confident enough to floor it. Being a slower car on the straights as well would only mean it would fall further into the distance....
The ITR has to be thrashed to get anywhere. I know its a V-Tec possibly the best engine's ever to be built but how long can an engine last being red-lined on every journey?. Driving from A-B in a scoob is easy and can still be driven quite fast without even breaking the 4k mark, not every journey has to be a race. In the past i've had 2 205 GTI's and a GTI-6 which are all Fwd and similar (a little less) power to an ITR. Although they were quick, they needed to be hammered and i'm sorry would in no way keep up with even a UK on straights or even on bends.
In summary all scoobs are quicker on straights and from stand-still.
I did think they were better for MPG but i'm starting to hear they are just as bad as a scoob. I also hear mod's are difficult/expensive to come by on an ITR, so if you miss the power from the scoob you don't really have much option.
I would say maybe scoobs flatter their drivers. On a track lap after lap getting to know where to floor it and using engine breaking i can only see ITR's falling back further and further. Scoob's may in general have more incompetent drivers who don't know exactly what their doing, and ITR's attract more "Driver's driver" and are more likely to know what they are doing.
2 competent drivers in both cars i really don't see there would be a comparison.