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Old 17 January 2007, 01:22 PM
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Old 17 January 2007, 01:22 PM
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Just because you know how it works, still doesn't make it suitable for a road car.
Old 17 January 2007, 01:24 PM
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What about this responce?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject:

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lol @ you!

you're the one that looks like the idiot babbling on about stuff you have no experience of!! and linking the vid with "my cossie" in the title was excellent
Old 17 January 2007, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Just because you know how it works, still doesn't make it suitable for a road car.
Just because there's a difference in opinion, doesn't mean the thread should get all bitchy.

Some people like it, some don't, some would have, some wouldn't.
Old 17 January 2007, 01:26 PM
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And this one?

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject:

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Don't know why you always do the same thing?

You hang around a scoobynet, with the littlest of knowledge, trying to educate people, then post it on here when someone replies with something anti-cossie.

You end up making yourself look like an idiot, whether you're right or wrong, and an embarassment. What are you trying to achieve?
Old 17 January 2007, 01:27 PM
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If you trawl the internet long enough, i'm sure you'll get somebody to agree with you.
And who ever said that you don't know what you're talking about?
Old 17 January 2007, 01:28 PM
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Those two people were having little digs.

The man to listen to there is Stavros has he ran ALS for a good while on his car.
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What you need to remember is that ALS will NOT improve the boost threshold of a turbo (as in the point that the turbo comes on boost), they will only improve the lag aspect (which is just the response of the turbo once it is IN it's boost threshold), by keeping it spinning between gear-changes.

ALS is actually ILLEGAL to use on the road, as it contravenes the decibel limits of a road car. Although fitted to rally cars, just like if these speed between stages on public roads they would get collared for running ALS on the road as well, hence the switch.

ALS will create temps of up to 1000°C, hence why turbos don't last. The rally cars run turbos that cost several thousand pound each made out of special material that can sustain this kind of heat (a standard turbo would fall apart at 950°C).

I run a Maram 247 shafted T4 turbo and ALS on my Escort, but it is only really used on track (and can only be used on track-days with no noise limits).

Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
If you trawl the internet long enough, i'm sure you'll get somebody to agree with you.
And who ever said that you don't know what you're talking about?
All of bloody page three.

CottonFoo etc.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
What you need to remember is that ALS will NOT improve the boost threshold of a turbo (as in the point that the turbo comes on boost), they will only improve the lag aspect (which is just the response of the turbo once it is IN it's boost threshold), by keeping it spinning between gear-changes.

ALS is actually ILLEGAL to use on the road, as it contravenes the decibel limits of a road car. Although fitted to rally cars, just like if these speed between stages on public roads they would get collared for running ALS on the road as well, hence the switch.

ALS will create temps of up to 1000°C, hence why turbos don't last. The rally cars run turbos that cost several thousand pound each made out of special material that can sustain this kind of heat (a standard turbo would fall apart at 950°C).

I run a Maram 247 shafted T4 turbo and ALS on my Escort, but it is only really used on track (and can only be used on track-days with no noise limits).
Thanks Mike.
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Originally Posted by Bat-Fink
Those two people were having little digs.

The man to listen to there is Stavros has he ran ALS for a good while on his car.
So the man to listen to, is the one that agrees with you? Come on mate, you're digging yourself a pretty big hole.
It's great that you have a passion for cars, but don't ruin it by saying 'you know more than others'.
How many times have I heard a teenager say that?

Come to think of it, I used to know everything............then I grew up!
Old 17 January 2007, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
What you need to remember is that ALS will NOT improve the boost threshold of a turbo (as in the point that the turbo comes on boost), they will only improve the lag aspect (which is just the response of the turbo once it is IN it's boost threshold), by keeping it spinning between gear-changes.

ALS is actually ILLEGAL to use on the road, as it contravenes the decibel limits of a road car. Although fitted to rally cars, just like if these speed between stages on public roads they would get collared for running ALS on the road as well, hence the switch.

ALS will create temps of up to 1000°C, hence why turbos don't last. The rally cars run turbos that cost several thousand pound each made out of special material that can sustain this kind of heat (a standard turbo would fall apart at 950°C).

I run a Maram 247 shafted T4 turbo and ALS on my Escort, but it is only really used on track (and can only be used on track-days with no noise limits).

Hope this helps.
Yes Bat-Fink, he says he doesn't use it on the road, just the track!
Old 17 January 2007, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
So the man to listen to, is the one that agrees with you? Come on mate, you're digging yourself a pretty big hole.
It's great that you have a passion for cars, but don't ruin it by saying 'you know more than others'.
How many times have I heard a teenager say that?

Come to think of it, I used to know everything............then I grew up!
He ran ALS on his car.I think he knows what he's on about do you.

I wasn't saying I knew more then others,I was saying my understanding of it.
Old 17 January 2007, 01:37 PM
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Well Mike Rainbird on here, also has first hand experience of ALS. And he seems to think it isn't worth using it on the road. Pretty much what I have been saying all along. Swings and roundabouts mate!
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Well Mike Rainbird on here, also has first hand experience of ALS. And he seems to think it isn't worth using it on the road. Pretty much what I have been saying all along. Swings and roundabouts mate!
Fair play,the point is Mike and Stav both have experiance of it and know what it's like.

Originally Posted by Stavros
What he has wrote is pretty correct from what ive seen, and i HAVE experience of it.
He may have no practical experience of it, but he has more of a grasp of the understanding of it than 99% of people it seems.
That is my point.
Old 17 January 2007, 01:40 PM
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The thread title is 'thinking of getting Anti-lag', not 'What bat-fink knows!'.
Old 17 January 2007, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
The thread title is 'thinking of fitting Anti-lag', not 'What bat-fink knows!'.
Whatever mate.

If you want to sit here all day and quote un-quote me feel free.
Old 17 January 2007, 01:42 PM
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In the words of Eric Cartman, 'Whatever.... I do what I want!'
Old 17 January 2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
The thread title is 'thinking of getting Anti-lag', not 'What bat-fink knows!'.
I forgot, its all about "what chrispurvis thinks he knows"
Old 17 January 2007, 01:52 PM
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Old 17 January 2007, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bat-Fink
All of bloody page three.

CottonFoo etc.
You're officially retarded. I never said anything to the tune of you not knowing anything, so don't put my name against your made up crap.

I merely pointed out your severe lack of experience - something it seems I didn't need to do.
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Originally Posted by cottonfoo
You're officially retarded. I never said anything to the tune of you not knowing anything, so don't put my name against your made up crap.

I merely pointed out your severe lack of experience - something it seems I didn't need to do.
Bit harsh with the retarded comment over a dis-agreement.

No need for name calling.

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Originally Posted by cottonfoo
You're officially retarded. I never said anything to the tune of you not knowing anything, so don't put my name against your made up crap.

I merely pointed out your severe lack of experience - something it seems I didn't need to do.
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Originally Posted by Bat-Fink
Bit harsh with the retarded comment over a dis-agreement.
Bit harsh for you to lie.
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Originally Posted by cottonfoo
Bit harsh for you to lie.
What do you mean by that?
Old 17 January 2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bat-Fink
What do you mean by that?
Is the *****-banana-boy a friend of yours from another BBS? I can't be bothered with this thread anymore. You said I'd said you didn't know anything which isn't the case, that's when you lied.
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Originally Posted by cottonfoo
Is the *****-banana-boy a friend of yours from another BBS? I can't be bothered with this thread anymore. You said I'd said you didn't know anything which isn't the case, that's when you lied.
I do know of him from another forum.Not a mate though.

I wasn't knocking your knolwedge at all mate.

Too many posts on this thread means a few crossed wires me thinks.
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If you think anti-lag is a 'good thing' for a car that is used on the road then you are seriously deluded.
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Originally Posted by Tripple'O G
I've got anti lag on my GEMS.......great fun......but used in moderation as I don't fancy a new turbo just yet
Does GEMS suffer with the cold start problems - not that I know too much about it but I would like to have it to. Just the same as I'd like DCCD and a roof vent and water spray and all the other things I think I want for my car and more than likely will never need.

(like a bright switch)
Old 17 January 2007, 05:32 PM
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Jesus where is this Thread going. I have it on a road car and yes i use it now and then for a laugh. No harm done yet and its been fitted a Year now. It has melted some of the heat proof stuff on my Turbo Heat shield,that caused a little smoke once, but thats the only harm done. If used constantly then yes i guess it would get expensive.


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