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Old 13 January 2007, 05:12 PM
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Yep your right (I think??) mate, But it does have anti lag on my ecu.
Old 13 January 2007, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by alanbell
Yep your right (I think??) mate, But it does have anti lag on my ecu.
Yeah,ALS runs through the whole rev range.

Do you run the ALS at all?
Old 13 January 2007, 05:18 PM
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I got it on my gems, switches on/off via a little toggle switch but I was warned not to use it as it might end up costing a few quid in repairs later!
Old 13 January 2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bat-Fink
Yeah,ALS runs through the whole rev range.

Do you run the ALS at all?
dont know what ALS is , Its got a Autronics ecu, fitted and mapped by Pat,
Old 13 January 2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by alanbell
dont know what ALS is , Its got a Autronics ecu, fitted and mapped by Pat,
Anti lag system = ALS.
Old 13 January 2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bowsaaa
I got it on my gems, switches on/off via a little toggle switch but I was warned not to use it as it might end up costing a few quid in repairs later!
Whats a turbo between friends?
Would love to have it on my 93wrx but unfortunatly my Apexi Power FC ECU doesn't support it.
My mate used to have an Evo 5 with it on and had no problems, as he said its ok for occasional use, ie Track days or just showing off kinda thing.
Old 13 January 2007, 05:46 PM
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Autronics ecus have antilag built in...just requires a mode switch in the programming and an external switch fitting to turn it on/off..
Old 13 January 2007, 05:47 PM
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If just used occasionally, how much would it really reduce turbo life by?
Old 13 January 2007, 07:01 PM
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Autronics and Zen Performance had it a Year now with no ill effects.
Old 13 January 2007, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bat-Fink
Why not gay-boy.
Because it has no real use on the road, very much like a blo*dy VTA!
And it sounds GAY!
Old 13 January 2007, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Because it has no real use on the road, very much like a blo*dy VTA!
And it sounds GAY!
BOLLOCKS!

ALS sounds awesome,actually does something as well,unlike a VTA.
Old 13 January 2007, 07:30 PM
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Yeah, that sounds great!
my cossie with als ( anti lag ) - Google Video
I bet everyone driving past would think, 'What a knackered piece of ****e!'.
Old 13 January 2007, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Because it has no real use on the road, very much like a blo*dy VTA!
And it sounds GAY!
some amount of single minded **** on here boys. my way or no way
Old 13 January 2007, 07:41 PM
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It's called 'my opinion', just like yours!
Old 13 January 2007, 07:47 PM
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Unless its constructive or helpful maybe you should keep it to yourself buddy.
Old 13 January 2007, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Yeah, that sounds great!
my cossie with als ( anti lag ) - Google Video
I bet everyone driving past would think, 'What a knackered piece of ****e!'.
Some might say your Impreza has got a misfire.
Old 13 January 2007, 08:57 PM
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Some people also think that wearing massive gold chains, a hoody and a cheap and nasty track-suit looks the business.

Now, don't get me wrong. I am not saying that ALS is a chavy, far from it.
But I simply cannot see why you would want it on a road car?
Does it really make a difference? Is it just for the 'traffic light grandprix?

Also, if you are running a top mount intercooler, wouldn't revving the cars boll*cks off, and then gunning it, just create a massive amount of heat soak and lead to some very nasy det?
As I said, I can see the benifit of such a system, but only on a track, where the car is being used at 10 tenths!
Old 13 January 2007, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Some people also think that wearing massive gold chains, a hoody and a cheap and nasty track-suit looks the business. Got me there.

Now, don't get me wrong. I am not saying that ALS is a chavy, far from it.
But I simply cannot see why you would want it on a road car? Fair point,but then again why not.
Does it really make a difference? Is it just for the 'traffic light grandprix?Keeps the turbo spinning to prevent lag.

Also, if you are running a top mount intercooler, wouldn't revving the cars boll*cks off, and then gunning it, just create a massive amount of heat soak and lead to some very nasy det?It only starts when you come off the throttle,doesn't rev the engine,just keeps the turbo spinning during lift off.
As I said, I can see the benifit of such a system, but only on a track, where the car is being used at 10 tenths!Fair enough point there...

BTW,boost threshold is the point in the rev tange when the turbo starts to make positive pressure.

Lag is where you come off the throttle and when you come back on you have a delay.
Old 13 January 2007, 09:35 PM
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So keeping the turbo spinning, doesn't create heat?
Old 14 January 2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
So keeping the turbo spinning, doesn't create heat?
It does create some heat,what I meant was you were thinking it revs the engine.
Old 14 January 2007, 04:48 PM
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Still don't see the point on a road car.
Old 14 January 2007, 04:55 PM
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All depends what you want from a road car.
Old 14 January 2007, 05:07 PM
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There probably aren't many drivers on here who would need and could effectively use an anti-lag system. Where in normal road use do you ever need to be changing gear so often that keeping full boost over gear changes is so important. There's certainly not many roads round here where it could be used and it's fairly rural.
Old 14 January 2007, 05:39 PM
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Its a gimmick for people to waste their money on!
Old 14 January 2007, 10:04 PM
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but a cool gimmick
Old 14 January 2007, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Its a gimmick for people to waste their money on!
Money well spent IMO.

I'd love to have ALS. Was considering GEMS/Motec when i had my ecutek, purely for the ALS reason. Went with Ecutek though

Having watched hundreds of special stages, i've always wanted my car to sound like that. switchable obviously.

Some people waste money on coke, hookers and beer. I'd do it on turbos and fuel

One day. It will be mine. muhahahahahaaa.

One question, could i swap my Ecutek ECU for a Gems/Motec/et all and just get a new map?
Old 14 January 2007, 10:24 PM
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Have some of that:

Escort cosworth on the rollers with ALS - Google Video

There's a good vid, i'm sure someone will post with a classic scooby rally car doing a exhibition circuit with ALS, the one where he spins.

That sounds the dogs danglies.
Old 14 January 2007, 11:06 PM
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ALS will shorten turbo life and is not necessary on a road car. Of course if you want to make a lot of noise, pops and bangs and getting people to look at you is your thing, then it could be what you want, even if it turns out to be an expensive experience.
ALS can help you off the line as you have some boost from the start and it can reduce any lag on a gear shift if that is a problem so there is an application in motorsport where a few hundredths of a second count. Drive a road car in a manner where ALS makes a difference and you are likely to loose your licence or worse.

If you have not experienced ALS and do not know the costs involved, your judgement on its benefits or worth are probably flawed.
Old 14 January 2007, 11:09 PM
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Thankyou harvey.
The master has spoken!

Anything else to say batman?
Old 15 January 2007, 12:16 AM
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Cheers Chris. If someone wants to run ALS on the road and can afford it then it is their choice but hopefully they will approach it with a degree of caution. They can balance their decision from the information available here or elsewhere so as not to be missled by those without firsthand experience.


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