scubaladdie

A lad I know in York mas an MR FQ300 with full Greddy Ti exhaust, Powertec induction, 9GT turbo, intercooler hardpipes and Motec ECU by Sam Ellassar.... averaged 420bhp on 3 different dyno's

THOMO

john banks dont bother wasting your breath your on PCM .people in business know the difference between the cars .ive had both cars too.
the only thing in common with the 2 cars is that you cant park them in any city without thinking its going to be STOLEN.

andythejock01wrx

So did you get up really early on Boxing day, or were you still on the vino in the early hours of Xmas day ?!

Bone

Just wining down before bed after many a drink , couldn't sleep straight away, so a bit of scoobynet and a few pints of water does wonders for the next day.

reano

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Bone still awaiting your response to this since you have ignored most of the argument. Here is a battle live for you. Please bring us some pearls of wisdom.

Note the original post was about mattey getting a pokey motor he didn't state if he wanted a track car (which most seem to be saying the EVo will be better for) if this is what he wants I repeat get something thats better and cheaper if you want an everyday car the Impreza has the power to equal and surpass the Evo £ fo £!! And has the everyday drive thats better, etc. Choose an Impreza of the same year, bhp and mileage of an Evo and you will have enough thousands left over to surpass any performance advantages the Evo 'may' have. You will then continue to save money from then on. (which equals better performance mods). I have tried both like I keep saying and I too have chosen the Impreza (as I have the choice) so that argument gone too.

Bone

What am i supposed to say about it other than i have seen it before? Its a race where they start on a grid (albeit the evo first) and with different drivers. The likes of magazines and shows over here use the same driver and time trial it around a track. Or drag race from the same posistion.

Are you saying then that the majority of imprezas are faster than their equivalent evos? AND WHY do you keep banging on about the track? I said track along with everything, the EVos are faster in every way. Forget track if it makes you feel better.

REAL world situation, Guy buys a new Impreza sti, Wrx, Spec c etc and is all happy then sees an Evo Mr FQ and takes a beating of the lights or down the dual carriage way, How about that?

Stop squealing like a little girl and admit the Evo is better in everything that really matters, the reason why people like to drive. Subtract exhaust not and car appearance, BUt lets face it you don't constantly drive around going past those mirror like shop windows do you. And the evo doesn't look bad either.

Also as you mention roads costs what about depreciation? Buying a newage blue sti with gold wheels is going to painful a lot more than Evos and not just that but it may shift quicker too, just loook at Autotrader. From what i have seen, and i could be wrong, the Evos hold value better as they are not similar to dirt. The evo is the superior car overall, FACT.

Morale of the story is you buy an Impreza instead of an Evo and it will all end it tears.

Bone

MODS MODS MODS, Still banging on about Mods. By the Evo first of and you need to **** about or run to Japan. Most people wont buy a new car with waranty and put aftermarket mods on it. Do you tell people when they beat you that you could mod it and it will beat them?

The evos is laughing at you and so am i.

TonyBurns

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Bone, I see you dont know much about cars, let alone evo's and Impreza's.
2 cars with totally different driving experiences, the evo is a very capable car, if not too capable as it leaves you feeling numb after driving due to the car doing everything for you, it leaves you (the driver) out of the equasion, which isnt good, its not the driver thats good in an evo, its the car REALLY flattering the driver.
As for outperforming WRX's, well yes they will, its a different car completely, much more family orientated and gives performance without harshness, the STi is different, but then your comparing JDM v UK, if you went UK v UK then your still not quite there, the STi is better than the Euro Evo in many ways, JDM v JDM, the JDM STi is a better car than the JDM evo, for a long time its been the opposite way around, with the evo x on the doorstep we shall see what happens, but for performance and handling, the latest impreza's are more than a match even the FQ cars have problems there
Depreciation..... well go and have a good look in the autotrader, evo's plummet just as quickly as Impreza's do in value, pretty much like all high performance jap cars, plus rising fuel prices mean you have to drop prices to sell these nowerdays.

Tony

reano

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[quote=Bone]What am i supposed to say about it other than i have seen it before? Its a race where they start on a grid (albeit the evo first) and with different drivers. The likes of magazines and shows over here use the same driver and time trial it around a track. Or drag race from the same posistion.

/quote]

What a defense (loler)

I've ignored the rest of what you said to go back to this point, your like a politician that asks a question gets given the evidence and then attempts to move on. You asked for a comparison of the Evo getting slapped (and starting first too) loler and all you can say is what am I supposed to say well how about "fair cop" the Impreza beat the Evo loler I slap Evo's every month. Even had one guy come full round the roundabout to race me loler and then got owned It was an Evo 8 320 or 340 I believe but they all look the same in the rear mirror . I think I will back out of this as I can see you can't take even the evidence put in front of you e.g. the Evo being slapped even when it started ahead (AND ON A TRACK) never mind on the road. I also haven't resulted in calling you a girl either Always happens when you are losing an argument.

Just to sum it up:

1) The Evo's got slapped by an Impreza and even when it started first on a track (to which you responded "well what am I supposed to say..." <--- erm maybe well done Impreza but as your initial argument started biased can you bring yourself to say it?
2) Cars should be compared in the price band or lets compare each car with a buggati.
3) Looking at the above The Impreza will be and is the fastest car on the road and track (out of these two)
4) After 3) above the Evo has nohing more to offer full stop, the end.
5) Which Car won the Tuner GP erm lets think was it an Evo? Maybe Powerstation can tell you?
6) And the most important point anyone who has owned both cars like me and others will know that sometimes the Impreza is better and sometimes the Evo no one in this catergory see's it as clear cut

I leave you to respond with some other rant about traffic lights, embarrassment, etc, etc. Well I mean what else are you supposed to say

type.r

Get yourself a nice Scooby Type R

reano

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Is Bones doing a wind up? Must be really He obviously has very limited experience of driving these cars. He appears to me to be the 'typical' image of what is bringing these cars down e.g. someone who wants to race from the lights and say my car is better than yours. Maybe bullied at school and now 'trying' to get his own back lol Name calling next he'll be asking for a race or where we live

Bone

I drive an Evo 6 and although not the newest i don't need telling about how they drive thanks. Although i'm no expert on engines or anything.

Bone

Lol, Thats me. How did you guess. Are you a pro or something.

Ok then the imprezas are the faster, overall superior and more desirebale option. You win.

reano

iTrader: (2)

Thanks I knew it all along You have an Evo 6 and was using that for comparison loler I have a lot of respect for the Tommi but you need to take the 8 and 9 for a spin. I liked the RS7 sprint (i think it was called). Were you an IMpreza owner b4 that got beaten at the lights? Is that what it is?

Bone

I didn't say what i have or haven't driven. You did, its called being judgemental over the internet.

Yes i have owned an impreza and always got pasted by Evos in a varity of situations. Its not just about the lights you know, well it was the track before wasn't it?

They just don't measure up but my view is not biased as i have praised the Impreza for certain things. A decent classic impreza does look the best of any imprezas or evos IMO but thats not what its all about.

As others have said in this thread, the evo is the step up and is seen as natuaral progression. Obviously others will object, there are people out there that would prefer a Saxo to both but its minority.

reano

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Never said what you had or refered to it b4 last post but I get it all now loler you have been bullied by Evo's (rather owned by them) so you now go get an Evo and return to bully IMpreza owners. Classic bully syndrome loler. You need therapy. Deal with it Bones don't take out your short comings on us loler.
I was over on the MLR forum (my wife owns the Airtrek Evo) and there were two guys on there that raced me one got owned the oher was trying to keep up and we praised each other none of this you've been coming out with but it's all clear now lol (you and your Evo laughing at me ... really or was that just the hurt you feel inside..... loler) Do you want a hug? loler

TonyBurns

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I see you seem to be measuring the classics against the evo's, well the new age has come a long way since then, better chassis, handling, total ability, performance etc, if you got spanked by evo's back then well, my little JDM (new age) spanked an evo 9 320, out handled it and out performed it, well what more can you say.... hehe

Tony

marmski

MrRA

Bone, any fool can put their foot down in a straight line like at the lights or down on the dual as you put it.

Real driving is about getting it on the twisty bits. That's where a Spec C would show the Evo who's boss. After all, it is able to manage a lap of the 'Ring in under 8 mins

Maz

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Quite, endow a wheelbarrow with an appropriate power to weight ratio and it'll paste an Impreza/Evo.

Bone

Wrong again, either you have amnesia or simply haven't read the posts. I mention Wr1, Spec c, Sti throughout which i was meaning new age. I only mentioned classics nowish because thats what i think looks best of the bunch.

Evos are faster. Simple.

Renegade or whatever you username is, Bullied on the road? Lol how long did it take for you to think that one up.

I chose the Impreza as i though it was the best, i used to go around debating with others who worshipped the evo and stuck up for the scooby but after a while i realised i was wrong. All Subaru owners do in defence is bang on about a car that most people can't even get hold of even for the hassles involved. Even then there is always another Evo that will own a Spec C.

How many people on here own newage imports? Then how many own Sti, Wr1 or other Type uk cars. All the mr fqs are Uk cars with all the benefits. When i talk about a cake i like to talk about the cake, not the plate or the knife. Subaru is a poor mans Evo, everyone knows it deep down.

You maybe 20, you may be 40 but you will get there in end.

TonyBurns

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That really made me laugh
My MY03 Spec C owned an evo 9 320, better handling and quicker, my car has the standard factory map so proves you wrong there, since then the MY05 was improved upon over the MY03/4 models and now the MY06 is even better still, yet a 3 year old car beat the latest evo in ALL departments, well you must know everything or not
When you understand that the latest offering from mitsubishi (oh dont worry we wont recall any cars and just leave 10million owners driving deathtraps) isnt as good as the latest offerings from subaru well, come back, you may be some time as your ignorance has the better of you

Tony

Bateman

I have yet to see an Evo Wagon. Job done , nothing to see here !

Dark Blue Mark

LOL - who actually thinks that one will really beat the other?

Maybe talking 10ths of a second.

Stick an evo and scoob with the same power and same tyres next to each other and see what happens. One crosses the line a bit before the other? If thats enough for you to justify buying one then fair play to you. This is one of the ways journalists and TV people have influenced the way we buy stuff.

Try both and decide for yourself. Its the "feel" that one or the other gives that should sway you.

For sure, the EVO is a better technical package out the box, and you can mod it without having to worry about front mounts etc.

MB

Dark Blue Mark

Haven't you?

MB

Bateman

Nope

Dark Blue Mark

Mitsubishi Lancer Register Forum - Evo 9 Wagon ..

Official JDM version available from 2003 I am led to believe.

MB

Alan MaC

I think what everyone at Scooby Land is saying IS............................

The Evo is a very quick motor, no doubt about that at all.

However, in day to day driving, going to work, picking up the kids, holidays etc, the Scooby is more practical.

The running costs as the Evo needs more servicing, is probably cheaper to have a Scoob.

There are SN enthusiasts who have done awesome things to their motors as, have Evo Owners.

I think it boils down to each and everyones personal preference.

2 excellent motors with 2 different followings.

Lets agree to make our personal choice and acknowledge that both camps have an awesome bit of kit to beleive in.

Best Wishes to all.

Alan MaC

V7C

Totally agree with Alan MaC.

Dark Blue Mark

I agree too, but I use mine day to day and its no different to the scoob in terms of practicality. Ive heard that said before and never know where it comes from?!

Interim service costs bugger all - when you're running cars like EVO's and Scoobs running costs are just an accepted bad point

MB