In my opinion I reckon that every provider is going to use traffic shaping of some kind soon to be honest. It is only a matter of time before the film/music companies possibly bring action against the isp's to use throttling to prevent p2p sharing. The fact that this throttling can be done already gives the movie/music industry a good case to say that it will not be too costly to implement across the board.

As regards your max problems, it seems as though things are now moving along. If you were previously capped at 1mb I would say that limit has not been removed fully. Hopefully in a few days, you will have a nice stable connection at a decent rate. Maybe an idea if you router supports it to set up logs, this way you can get an idea of what speed it will eventually settle at. (no disconnections at one speed, but many at the next speed should mean you drop in between the two - in theory anyway)

 

catch 22 isn't it. The ISP's that don't traffic shape will have all the extreme downloaders migrating to them, they download constantly and the ISP can't sustain it, hence why traffic shaping is then introduced. I think people much prefer Zens approach, no shaping but a strict 50GB per month cap (for the £35 per month option). IIRC metronet were proof of this offering 150gig/month 2 meg for £28. Then they were brought out by Plus Net as they couldnt sustain it, you can guess the rest.....

 

This thread is laughable. People complaining because they can't steal fast enough.

 

There are some, albeit a few, legitimate reasons for using BT. For example, Fedora Core 6 was released within the last two weeks and the suggested method for downloading it was to use BT, though there is now a nice list of ftp mirrors available.

Autopatcher is somewhat similar, the primary method seems to be BT, or was when I downloaded the latest full and update version last week. Again there are also more normal ftp and http mirrors.

 

Playing devils advocate here, but unless you're downloading the TV show from the channel/tv company that shows it, I'm not sure how legal it would be, as technically it's violating copyright, but then so is (was? not sure if it changed) recording music from the radio and tv progs from the tv to video/dvd.

BT I could see being shaped, but HTTP and FTP, that's a little extreme. All our products are available for download via FTP, so that could harm anyone who was trying to download our software. Plus what about if I want to download the latest seed of Mac OS X 10.5, using my access to ADC Premier (Think of it as the Apple equivelant of MSDN), that's a big ol file and it'd be coming via ftp.

Shaping HTTP is a tad silly as well, think of how that'd mess up YouTube.

 

I believe its UDP (games)/VOIP gets Platinum Priority

HTTP/HTTPS/FTP etc gold

other stuff silver

external NNTP, Torrent, P2P bronze

IIRC

I think plus net do go over the top, however i remember reading of people pulling 600gig per month off newsfeeds when 2 meg lines were unshaped, also way OTT

 

so downloading game demos that are freely available and software demos again freely available from the publishers is stealing
Not everyone who uses p2p is downloading illeagal material

Besides the thread has nothing to door directly with P2P but poor speeds with maxadsl and also throttling/traffic shaping which the poster has said is not just down to p2p but also ftp and http

 

oh pls shutup clark u paranoid ****.

 

Nice response, perhaps you should download some books to help improve your English.

 

God Bless the internet.

 

Oh a grammar **** as well as a paranoid piracy captain. You begger belief Clark you really do.

 

Mate most isp's phone support n sales is the same n lame. Tried ringing +nets support recently?

If your exchange is in the red, then changing ISP will just be a waste of time n money, as you know. You need to kick BT up the ****. However sticking with gaynet would also be a big mistake imo.

 

had enough myself - started the move over to bethere - so far, so good - all commitments met

 

I'm also in the process of moving ISPs but I think my current one is about to go ****-up : can't get hold of them on the phone or via email, and I need my MAC code. Is there another way to switch without using the code ?

 

well you could cease the line but it's a lot of bother as you would need to re-active it for broadband as BT will "un-jumper" the line, activation costs around £50 or so IIRC, keep trying for a MAC

 

I don't think you'll be disappointed mate Well until you get your exchange issue fixed that is.

 

Yep, I ordered mine on the 27th so I should be into it next week, will let you know how it goes.

Did +net beg you to stay n offer you a free month like they did for me? All a bit desperate imo.

 

think i might be joining you on newnet, and its about the same price plusnet

 

With Plusnet maxDSL,I got it about 4 weeks ago.Speeds jumped all over the place,settled at 50kbit download,i raised a ticket and it got sorted and i was getting 600kbit download,and now back down to 60kbit download max!
Just raised another ticket.

so your 200kbit sounds great to me!

 

Hi, the migration was painless, I'm on it now. However my re-training period on Max seems to be affecting my connection speed and dloads, which I've been told is normal. Hopefully it will return to fullspeed after the 10 day period. I was initially getting over 450KB/s on torrents at peak times, synched at 4.3mbits which was impossible on minusnet