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Old 18 October 2006, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Graham,

If you ask mark nicely he may do a GB price, but I suspect his prices are allready pretty good..

but if you do start a GB price from mark, I may be interested in a set of stroker rods & pistons + a bearing set

me too
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I really cannot find all the $$$ to do this engine now and get it done and ready for March.
Apart from the money to complete it, there is the running in of the engine in the winter months, where as the season finishes in late Sept which would be right for doing everything with the short block pre-prepared.....(wishful thinking!)...next year.
I do not want to miss/loose part of a season, or else I could simply give it a short sharp running in, ie to AndyF's and back.

So don't tempt me!

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Old 18 October 2006, 06:07 PM
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Whats running in?
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Old 18 October 2006, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuart Page
Not heard yet, but has anyone been successful in a reverse inlet manifold for a new age to reduce FMIC piping?
ARC intercooler with custom pipework & rad.


Originally Posted by 911
That pic even looks sensible in terms of proportions of the bores/wall etc.
Surely that would stop any chances of gasket failure?

BUT: The engine will not rev like a 2.33/2.2/2.0 engine??
This one does Graham The sleeves stay where they should too... which is nice.

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So don't tempt me!
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Old 18 October 2006, 06:35 PM
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I can't win can I?
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Old 18 October 2006, 06:37 PM
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Nice

How I long for a engine and car like that, one that works and does not leave a trail behind it.

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Old 18 October 2006, 07:25 PM
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You very nearly have one!
It exists and to a high spec, it runs, just needs mapping/running in.

I've (nearly) got an empty block. (I'm never in when TNT are delivering)
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Old 18 October 2006, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Whats running in?
Some antiquated proceedure for those of us used to dressing our own white metal bearings and then needing to bed them in
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Old 18 October 2006, 09:27 PM
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Jason, thats some clearance on them pistons

Tim, i hate running engines in, and i have only ever run 1 in.
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Old 18 October 2006, 10:17 PM
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Don't worry Tim, I still have my bearing scraper which I made as an Apprentice....Still sharp enough too.
Steven: Shame on you. I give my Company Cars a full 500 miles...

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Old 18 October 2006, 10:22 PM
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Graham, i cant be ar5ed running them in. The most annoying engine i had, was the one i run in

Current engine was making 450bhp at 1.1 bar after 70 miles

The best news i had recently was when Mark said, we were running in the engine for the Lateral car in a manner more to my taste It was 10pm Wednesday before TOTB, and i drove the car out onto the road. After 10 miles, we were up to 6000rpm, and some decent boost levels.

Bollocks to this, treat em nice crap.
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Old 19 October 2006, 08:37 AM
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hmmm, interest free credit??
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Old 19 October 2006, 09:03 AM
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Peanuts,

Mark does - Ie he has no care where you get the credit from
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hmmm, interest free credit??
He now accepts payment by card!
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Old 19 October 2006, 09:30 AM
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PMSL, maybe he would consider a "lateral" credit card issue, with cash back and loyalty points
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Old 19 October 2006, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Jason, thats some clearance on them pistons

Tim, i hate running engines in, and i have only ever run 1 in.
Nothing out of the 'ordinary' Steven, just a trick of the light!

I like running engines in - as long as it's on my terms


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Old 19 October 2006, 01:32 PM
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renno - you're pm box is full

Empty now mate.
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Old 19 October 2006, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Jason, thats some clearance on them pistons

Tim, i hate running engines in, and i have only ever run 1 in.
what should be the clearance be?
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Old 19 October 2006, 02:30 PM
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I'm currently running a 2.5L block and prefer the torque produced by the larger displacement. But as it's a open deck is there a company anyone would recommened to convering the block to a closed deck retrospectively using forged aluminium. I'm aware of head gasket problems with the cylinder heads moving but is this a common open deck problem or is it all down to how well the engine is built to start with?.

Thanks in advance
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Old 19 October 2006, 02:32 PM
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He now accepts payment by card!

Bloodyhell He's made it to the 21st century...... finally lol
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Old 19 October 2006, 03:07 PM
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In my experience it is how well the engine is built. Have been running same open deck block since new (1997). Since 2000 when built to 2.15l has had at least 365whp and since then much more work done. No issues even with 1mm oversize pistons. Can run 2bar boost and nitrous and only bearing went after 30,000 klms. 14mm head studs, o-ring and copper head gaskets may help.

I have questioned this over the years but as had no problems and on advice of Rigoli in Australia have kept it open deck as bores have 4mm steel.
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Old 19 October 2006, 03:22 PM
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If there were to be a group buy started for uprated 2.33 / 2.5L internals i would be interested too. Have had the CDB sat in the garage for quite a while now
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Old 19 October 2006, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hypoluxa
ARC intercooler with custom pipework & rad.

Wow, now thats definately an improvement! Did you have to bin the A/C ?

ooo, ARC... Must have been expensive.
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Old 19 October 2006, 05:17 PM
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here is another pic of of 2.5 heavy duty linered block, done by SMG which im running in my car.

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Old 19 October 2006, 05:24 PM
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Mikee, was that an ej22t to start off with?
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Old 19 October 2006, 05:43 PM
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it was a ej25 open deck block
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Old 19 October 2006, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX RCY
what should be the clearance be?
Clearance is determined by a number of factors. Alloy/size/application and intended use being the main. Also you cannot tell the clearance just by looking at a pic etc. Appearances can be deceptive.

Originally Posted by wrx450
In my experience it is how well the engine is built.
Yep, that's the key. There is more than one way to skin a cat, some more painfull than others...

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Wow, now thats definately an improvement! Did you have to bin the A/C ?

ooo, ARC... Must have been expensive.
That car belongs to Kumakubo and Team Orange, sadly not mine. Aircon is binned, yes.
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Old 19 October 2006, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeesingh
here is another pic of of 2.5 heavy duty linered block, done by SMG which im running in my car.


can this be done to a ej257 to make a revy engine with loads of torque
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Old 19 October 2006, 07:29 PM
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Yeah but not worth it imho.. speak to steve at smg.. Nice liners mikee..

You cant judge clearances at the top of the piston, but then they do look rather big gaps! Are they the CP Pistons?
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Yeah but not worth it imho
How so David?
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