New Audi S3
01 August 2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Sherwen
. Cars aren't getting lighter.
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Isn't the new Jag XK one of the few that is lighter than the one it replaces ?
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01 August 2006, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
The fwd weighs in at 1470kg so looks like its gonna be a bit overweight
PS. BMW audi and MB ahave all said taht for theyre future models theyre gonna be looking at reducing weight instead of ridicoulous power boosts.
01 August 2006, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Entry level A3 weighs 1205 according to audi's website.
PS. BMW audi and MB ahave all said taht for theyre future models theyre gonna be looking at reducing weight instead of ridicoulous power boosts.
PS. BMW audi and MB ahave all said taht for theyre future models theyre gonna be looking at reducing weight instead of ridicoulous power boosts.
oo-eer what have i said
01 August 2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Entry level A3 weighs 1205 according to audi's website.
PS. BMW audi and MB ahave all said taht for theyre future models theyre gonna be looking at reducing weight instead of ridicoulous power boosts.
PS. BMW audi and MB ahave all said taht for theyre future models theyre gonna be looking at reducing weight instead of ridicoulous power boosts.
An S line quattro is 1430 kg unladen.
If it gets DSG, thats another 30kg.
Realistically, the S3 is going to be 1,500 kg.
01 August 2006, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
£24,011.5 (we won't get it that cheap) for 265 ps which is the same as a standard STi at £21,835.74 new 
Granted that doesn't change the fact that if you had the cash in hand you could get a scooby for a lot cheaper, and discounts on the audi will be sparse, but best wait until it's actually out before moaning about the price
People have done this over the Clio 197 saying why buy one for 16-17k when you can get a megane from a supermarket or broker for 14k. Now they are hitting online brokers at 13k people are now saying it's not that bad
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01 August 2006, 10:24 PM
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Great lights, interior & styling but needs better wheels, bbs LM's, CH's or even RS6's. They look like low model (1.6 se) upgrade ones.
Still love the original S3's so with luck they will come down in price even more.
Still love the original S3's so with luck they will come down in price even more.
01 August 2006, 11:45 PM
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interesting looking car. Not entirely sure about the styling though.
There is no comparison between the build quality or residuals. Audi has it all the way.
Dealer wise - they're both sh1te. Audi are pretentious. Subaru are wannabe pretentious.
Still, a different type of car/owner.
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There is no comparison between the build quality or residuals. Audi has it all the way.
Dealer wise - they're both sh1te. Audi are pretentious. Subaru are wannabe pretentious.
Still, a different type of car/owner.
Dan
02 August 2006, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Do you read post in full or just skip to the best bits ?
He said "run scoobies run", it was in answer to that. Surely the people that will buy audis will continue to buy audis for the refinement and build and others will buy subarus for the cheapest thrill available.
He said "run scoobies run", it was in answer to that. Surely the people that will buy audis will continue to buy audis for the refinement and build and others will buy subarus for the cheapest thrill available.
I for one would much rather have the performance with the comfort and style of an Audi, and forfit some of the driving dynamics of a Subaru. But equally, there are many people that would rather pay less and have something a bit better to drive round back roads and not care about the rest of the car.
02 August 2006, 12:29 PM
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02 August 2006, 02:22 PM
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On the tuning note, it's already running 1.2bar / 17.5psi as standard to get the power (so I read) so on the stock turbo there might not be a huge amount puff left for a quick and easy remap, especially at the top end.
03 August 2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
No doubt will still be dull as **** to drive
Possibly but people probably said that about the new RS4 - which has shocked a lot of the critics.
I would imagine a far sportier drive than the previous S3!!!
03 August 2006, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
^^Ignorance at its finest
Or then again maybe you're just a poor excuse at a troll.
03 August 2006, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
Really? No doubt you've had exclusive access to the test models, and can say without doubt or bias that it's thrilling drive.
Or then again maybe you're just a poor excuse at a troll.
Or then again maybe you're just a poor excuse at a troll.
I remember reading an interview with the guy, and he said that there was limited scope to do what he wanted to because Audi's have there engine so far forward, so he intruduced more rear wheel drive to the 4wd system now being used on the RS4 and probably the new S3. All new models ie, all new A4, A3 etc, etc will be designed with there engines further back thus helping handling. Or at least that was what he was wanting to happen.
03 August 2006, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
I wouldn't let the guy who did the dynamics on the E46 M3 touch my lawnmower. Over-rated piece of crap for handling anything but a smooth road.
TBH i saw an article in EVO where they said a lot of performance cars are being ruined because they insist on testing them at the Ring.
03 August 2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
Really? No doubt you've had exclusive access to the test models, and can say without doubt or bias that it's thrilling drive.
Or then again maybe you're just a poor excuse at a troll.
Or then again maybe you're just a poor excuse at a troll.
03 August 2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rsarjantson
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Isn't the new Jag XK one of the few that is lighter than the one it replaces ?
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Isn't the new Jag XK one of the few that is lighter than the one it replaces ?
Richard
Same goes for the new audi tt
04 August 2006, 07:40 AM
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AudiLover,
Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm all for promoting Audi's as the great cars they are (I've now got one), but have you actually driven any of the Audis? Do you own one?
I fear that if you did, your comments may reflect a more realistic view.
Personally, I love my S4 Avant. It's SOOOO much more powerful than both of the modded Scoobs I owned previously. However, I'm under no illusion that the car is built for a more "comfortable" driving experience. Yes, this can be tuned out with suspension mods, but standard, the Scoob is a slightly more focussed drive.
And I was almost fanatically blinded by my enthusiasm for the Impreza (aren't we all!
) but once you get to experience other marques, you see the Impreza for what it is: a pretty good engine, on a pretty-well sorted chassis (within reason!) on top of a horrendous car!! (If it was SO good, why does everybody have the high-performance models, rather than the regular ones?)
This enthusiasm is wholeheartedly encouraged, however, to gain any credibility, it should really be backed up with fact and personal experience
I think it was Diablo (on this very BBS) who reminded of that great quote - "Opinions are like ar$eholes - everybody's got one"
Dan
Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm all for promoting Audi's as the great cars they are (I've now got one), but have you actually driven any of the Audis? Do you own one?
I fear that if you did, your comments may reflect a more realistic view.
Personally, I love my S4 Avant. It's SOOOO much more powerful than both of the modded Scoobs I owned previously. However, I'm under no illusion that the car is built for a more "comfortable" driving experience. Yes, this can be tuned out with suspension mods, but standard, the Scoob is a slightly more focussed drive.
And I was almost fanatically blinded by my enthusiasm for the Impreza (aren't we all!
) but once you get to experience other marques, you see the Impreza for what it is: a pretty good engine, on a pretty-well sorted chassis (within reason!) on top of a horrendous car!! (If it was SO good, why does everybody have the high-performance models, rather than the regular ones?)This enthusiasm is wholeheartedly encouraged, however, to gain any credibility, it should really be backed up with fact and personal experience
I think it was Diablo (on this very BBS) who reminded of that great quote - "Opinions are like ar$eholes - everybody's got one"
Dan