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Old 27 June 2006, 01:55 PM
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Old 27 June 2006, 01:58 PM
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Gay men only have their mothers to blame!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5120004.stm
Old 27 June 2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GCollier
And this relates to Leslie's belief that "It seems that unnatural practices bring their own punishments." .
Apparently so. As for 'how?' you would need to ask him about that. I've heard it said often enough though that AIDS was visited on the gays by God as punishment for their unholy practices.
Old 27 June 2006, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Slartibartfast
Apparently so. As for 'how?' you would need to ask him about that. I've heard it said often enough though that AIDS was visited on the gays by God as punishment for their unholy practices.
More like for their 'hole-y' practices.................Bummers!
Old 27 June 2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Slartibartfast
Apparently so. As for 'how?' you would need to ask him about that.
I'm still awaiting his reply, but asking for facts seems to have scared him off.
Old 27 June 2006, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Funny that Aids was first discovered in San Francisco amongst the homosexual population. It seems that unnatural practices bring their own punishments.
Originally Posted by GCollier
This must be one of the most small minded and bigoted posts I've seen on this forum.
Seconded, absolutely startling that views like this still exist and very sad. No wonder many gay people choose to hide their sexuallity. You can hardly blame them with people still having views like this.
Old 27 June 2006, 04:40 PM
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I think Les has realised the evil of his comment and has chosen not to reply
Old 27 June 2006, 05:18 PM
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I wouldn't be happy leaving my 2 year old boy with a homosexual, it's all about limiting the risks.

I don't go round abusing people because they're gay, I say live and let live, but I don't think what they do is normal and I suspect that most people feel that way, but are afraid to say so.

If I knew someone was into something like beastiality I wouldn't leave my son with them. At the end of the day, if someone has what I consider to be a sexual deviance, then they are more likely to be child abusers (I'm not saying they all are) but just more likely.

That's my view!
Old 27 June 2006, 05:26 PM
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Whatever people want to do to each other,fine.

We just seem to have slipped into another dimension where women want to be men,men want to be women,two men would like to pretend to be a family with one pretending to be mom.The aforementioned women that want to be men are upset because they can't get a man.Funny that.

But science shows that is quite normal.Allegedly

Hope we soon return to the days of women spending more on beauty products than men.

Each to their own.I prefer the old view of 'normal family'.Dated view or not.
Old 27 June 2006, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
but I don't think what they do is normal and I suspect that most people feel that way, but are afraid to say so.
As the human survival depends on men having sex with women (and there seem to still be humans around) i dont belive ANYONE would say its normal and i dont think anyone is saying that?

Paul,

Just curious what you would do if your 2 year old tells you he's gay in 16 years time? Would you make sure you kept him away from any younger siblings he may have? and better shut the family pets away too!

(in case you ask....if one of my kids were gay it would be about as far from ideal as i could possibly imagine.....however, i wouldnt assume them more likley to start screwing rabbits or whatever other traits this thread suggests they may induldge in!)
Old 27 June 2006, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I wouldn't be happy leaving my 2 year old boy with a homosexual, it's all about limiting the risks.
So would you leave your two year old boy with a heterosexual woman?

Or if it were a two year old daughter would you leave her with a heterosexual couple - the risks would be there?
Old 27 June 2006, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
That's my view!
Good for you for having the courage to risk the spite of the politically correct keyboard warriors on here.

It's your view and you certainly are not required to justify it to them.

Don't let them intimidate you.
Old 27 June 2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Don't understand why you compare it to the heterosexual or natural sex act however. Or are you saying that heterosexuals in large numbers practice sex in the male homosexual manner in this country?

Funny that Aids was first discovered in San Francisco amongst the homosexual population.
Don't let any facts get in the way of a good story!!

The prevalence of heterosexuals practicing sex in the 'male homosexual manner' is very high in most countries. In younger age groups surveys would suggest up to 25% of couples practice it regularly and over 50% have tried it!! Are they are to be punished by God?

The Kinsey report that was done in the UK at the same time as the US one was quoshed because it uncovered couples doing this unnatural act in far higher numbers that 'normal' society could condone or accept.

In some Catholic countries this method of sex is reguarly practised as a form of birth control, in some European countries by up to 50% of couples.

Of course not to mention that massive demand for A*** ****

I can only conclude you aren't getting any


On a more serious note I was part of team who did some of the first UK research into AIDS related deaths in 1983. There were ten, in Scotland. Does that mean God was visiting his punishment in Scots too?

Rannoch
Old 27 June 2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Good for you for having the courage to risk the spite of the politically correct keyboard warriors on here.

It's your view and you certainly are not required to justify it to them.

Don't let them intimidate you.
You're wrong Unclebuck (but hey, nothing new there then).

In any form of reasoned debate it is generally required to justify ones views with evidence. In fact a failure to justify, and comments such as "I'm entitled to my opinion" are effectively saying "I'm not interested in the truth with regard to this issue, and have no wish to discuss it further".

Beliefs which aren't justified, such as many of those on this thread, are about as valuable as statements such as "All brown eyed people are aliens" or "The moon is made of cheese".

Of course I don't expect you to agree with this. You've already demonstrated many times that rational thought is an anathema to you.

Gary.
Old 27 June 2006, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I wouldn't be happy leaving my 2 year old boy with a homosexual, it's all about limiting the risks.
I wouldn't be happy leaving my young 'uns with anyone I didn't know.

I would not have any hesitation whatsoever leaving them with a gay that I did know.


Now that's limiting risks.
Old 27 June 2006, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GCollier
You're wrong Unclebuck (but hey, nothing new there then).

In any form of reasoned debate it is generally required to justify ones views with evidence. In fact a failure to justify, and comments such as "I'm entitled to my opinion" are effectively saying "I'm not interested in the truth with regard to this issue, and have no wish to discuss it further".

Beliefs which aren't justified, such as many of those on this thread, are about as valuable as statements such as "All brown eyed people are aliens" or "The moon is made of cheese".

Of course I don't expect you to agree with this. You've already demonstrated many times that rational thought is an anathema to you.

Gary.
See what I mean? bla bla bla...insult... bla bla bla... another insult...

As I say don't let the would be PC bully boys intimidate you.
Old 27 June 2006, 08:15 PM
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As unwilling to engage in any form of reasoned debate as ever UB. Now why does that not surprise me.

Gary.

PS: FYI reason is also the enemy of political correctness.
Old 27 June 2006, 08:21 PM
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UB seeks to control people's thoughts more than the PC brigade, strange he doesn't realise it
Old 27 June 2006, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
UB seeks to control people's thoughts more than the PC brigade, strange he doesn't realise it
Perfect - nothing more to add
Old 27 June 2006, 08:50 PM
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BBS



i couldnt help it
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Old 27 June 2006, 09:00 PM
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HIV/AIDS kills FAR FAR FAR more straight people than it does gay people. If in any doubt about this, then visit many countries in Africa and have your eyes opened.

As for who you leave your kids with, then the situation is simple: Leave them with people you trust and know, their sexuality is irrelevant. Put it this way, if your brother was gay, would you stop him seeing his nephew/neices? Grow up ffs.

It could be argued that homosexuality is completely natural as it's nature/god(insert your deity here ) way of keeping the worlds population down. i.e. to help ensure a decent equilibrium of people on the planet, a certain percentage will be gay to ensure such equilibrium.

I'm sure few of you could disagree with actively encouraging homosexuality amongst the scum class to prevent further breeding of the chavs
Old 27 June 2006, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
BBS



i couldnt help it
Sara, there's no point doing corners in NSR - nearly everyone's on thirty posts per page.

HTH.
Old 28 June 2006, 12:09 PM
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No I have not ducked from commenting Ted Maul, was not around to read the latest posts!

If you read my earlier posts, you will realise my personal attitude to homosexuals, including those who are good friends of mine.

My points made later were about my own revulsion towards the male homosexual act. I don't apologise for that.

It is true that Aids was first discovered among the homosexual community in San Francisco and also that it is very prevalent in Africa where **** sex is common with a view to birth control. Aids of course can be transmitted by heterosexual sex which has become yet another risk now, quite likely set off in the first place by bisexual people.

**** sex is not natural.

All these are straight facts and you choose to hide your head in the sand over them. Are you so politically correct that you will not accept the truth being stated

I said that unnatural practices in nature are dangerous, and that also extends to other ways of interfering with the natural way of things.

What is evil about discussing the facts?

Les
Old 28 June 2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
What is evil about discussing the facts?
Nothing, but IMO infering that AIDS is in some way a punishment for being homosexual is.
Old 28 June 2006, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Nothing, but IMO infering that AIDS is in some way a punishment for being homosexual is.
That's not evil?....... it's just somebody's opinion f1_fan, which he is entitled to have..........
Old 28 June 2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie

**** sex is not natural.

Oral sex? that ok with you or a too abnormal?
Old 28 June 2006, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
it is very prevalent in Africa where **** sex is common with a view to birth control.

What is evil about discussing the facts?

Les
Mainly because that they are facts without appropriate context - therefore not inherently true.

If unnatural acts have led to the prevalence of AIDS then explain, using your own facts, why in a number of European Catholic countries where **** sex is a very common form of 'birth control' is the level of AIDS very low?

Also in terms of the discovery of AIDS - it may well be that it was first given a name in San Francisco however as I posted above research I was involved with in 1983 in Scotland also identified AIDS victims over a number of years.

I ask again is being Scottish unnatural as well based on your ability to draw logical conclusions from your facts?

If you are going to present facts then please present them appropriately.

Rannoch
Old 28 June 2006, 02:57 PM
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David,

That's an easy question to answer.

Its not the act itself, but the promiscuity of those practicing it.

Clearly, **** sex itself with an uninfected person will not result in your catching aids.

Vaginal sex with someone who is infected, on the other hand, may well do.

The high occurrences of aids among hetrosexual african nations is most likely due to the inherent promiscuity of many of those cultures rather than their chosen method of birth control.
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
At the end of the day, if someone has what I consider to be a sexual deviance, then they are more likely to be child abusers (I'm not saying they all are) but just more likely.
Just catching up with this thread. I know most points have been dealt with, but was this comment actually posted in all seriousness? I'm literally staggered. I won't even begin asking on what basis the "opinion" was formed.

Les, you have huge issues accepting that some humans aren't biologically heterosexual, don't you? It isn't a big percentage, granted, but it's *a* percentage. You are confusing unnatural and abnormal with remarkable ease.


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