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Old 20 April 2006, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
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It is a shame that the people who do the assesments cannot see that no essential cosmetic surgery is just not acceptable. It is just good old common sense. Burn victims etc then fine they need it but to treat depression - get real ffs!
What about a person who has been born with a deformed ear that damages their confidence is it wrong for the NHS to spend 3k to make a change to the rest of their life, when they spend tens of thousands keeping very old people alive for only a few more years. Surely its a balance.
Old 20 April 2006, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
What about a person who has been born with a deformed ear that damages their confidence is it wrong for the NHS to spend 3k to make a change to the rest of their life, when they spend tens of thousands keeping very old people alive for only a few more years. Surely its a balance.
'Surely it is a balance' - tit enlargements v.s a deformed ear op on a child or a burn victim. Now let me think - LMFAO! Paulr you can be priceless at times old chap!


I am not talking about a deformed ear from birth or even in a accident. Both of which should be treated on the NHS.

This is about a man(?) that thinks he/she should be a woman and wants the NHS to pay for it then decides he does not like his/her tattos any more and wants them got rid of as the make him/her depressed.

As for keeping old people alive, well if it was me i would not necessarily want to be kept alive if my quality of life was not good however they do have some right to treatment and life, want to have a sex change and tattoo removal is not life saving or essential to anyone iwth an IQ larger that their shoe size is it really.

If this saddo really wanted this treatment so bad could he/she not have got a job to pay for it - it is not what thew HNS is there for is it?!?

I do not consider that the nhs is right or has the right to treat cosmetic procedures such as sex changes and tattoo removal or breast enlargements - it is not much to ask just common sense
Hospital wards are closing as are hospitals, hospital staff are loosing their jobs and you can go get you **** enlarged or your 'i love sal' removed on the nhs as it upsets you.

Well i find hospital closures upsetting!

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Old 20 April 2006, 11:05 AM
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If a woman who was an A-cup and it affected her confidence wanted an enlargement on the NHS i'd have no problem with that. I mean how much do they spend on smoking and weight related (self-inflicted) ilnesses per year anyway.
Old 20 April 2006, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
If a woman who was an A-cup and it affected her confidence wanted an enlargement on the NHS i'd have no problem with that. I mean how much do they spend on smoking and weight related (self-inflicted) ilnesses per year anyway.

Well then we agree to differ, i hope that you are not ever in a position to make these decisions then.

as for smoking and weight issues let's keep this on track and not get sidetracked. Both need looking at but this is about a serious waste of money on non essential COSMETIC surgery.

Question You consider breast enlargement to make someone more confident (as you put it) good use of NHS resourses?
Another question -Do you really feel that the tattoo removal mentioned is essential cosmetic surgery?

The NHS had a finite amount of money and it needs to be spent on essential services and the right people for the right reasons.
Hospitals and wards are closing, staff are being laid off anf you consider a breast enlargement to make someone happy important.

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Old 20 April 2006, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Well then we agree to differ,
Agreed

(the tatoo comment was a wind up,but the breast enlargement for someone with a very flat chest,i'd have no objection as a tax payer)
Old 20 April 2006, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Agreed

(the tatoo comment was a wind up,but the breast enlargement for someone with a very flat chest,i'd have no objection as a tax payer)
Just lock her up in a room full of men who like small **** for a few hours, that'd give her more confidence surely! As a taxpayer I wouldn't want her to get that surgery on the NHS, there are MANY more important things that the NHS should be spending its money on.
Old 20 April 2006, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Daft Lad
Just lock her up in a room full of men who like small **** for a few hours, that'd give her more confidence surely! As a taxpayer I wouldn't want her to get that surgery on the NHS, there are MANY more important things that the NHS should be spending its money on.

Now with that attitude you should be on one of the panels who decide

"Just lock her up in a room full of men who like small **** for a few hours"

LMFAO - How un PC and what a brilliant solution - LOL!
Old 20 April 2006, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Now with that attitude you should be on one of the panels who decide

"Just lock her up in a room full of men who like small **** for a few hours"

LMFAO - How un PC and what a brilliant solution - LOL!
Old 20 April 2006, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
'i love sal'
Is there summat you want to tell us Paul? are you and scoobychick upto no good ????
Old 20 April 2006, 12:00 PM
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Paulr,

How do you differentiate between PCT's which won't supply a drug like Herceptin to extend or save someone's liife or one which is prepared to throw money away on such an operation as was described purely out of PC reasoning? Why can't this person have the tattoos removed privately and until then wear longer sleeves.

Where are your priorities then?

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feckin idiot shouldn't have had the tattoo done in the first place if he was planing to become a her further down the line!!!!
Old 20 April 2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Paulr,

How do you differentiate between PCT's which won't supply a drug like Herceptin to extend or save someone's liife or one which is prepared to throw money away on such an operation as was described purely out of PC reasoning? Why can't this person have the tattoos removed privately and until then wear longer sleeves.

Where are your priorities then?

Les
That was the exact paragraph I was trying to convey
Old 22 April 2006, 11:36 AM
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Paulr,

Can't you answer that then?

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Old 22 April 2006, 07:12 PM
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As the news article says, cosmetic surgery is not usually free on the NHS, but is only being provided in this case because it is a factor in the patient's depression. *If* this is true then the surgery should certainly be provided - genuine depression is no walk in the park - and I would hope the doctors involved are capable of a more reliable diagnosis than scoobynet. Sadly too many people seem to see the word transexual, assume they're simply some sort of freak and then let prejudice overide their judgement on the rest of the facts.

Gary.
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