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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Can anybody put up the standard figures for the ZS in terms of power and weight?
I used to keep with them in my old 205 1360cc(85bhp) so they surely they can't be as fast as some are making out can they?
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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standard v6 spec 177 bhp ,177 ft lb torque
0-60 7.2
top speed 139
weight 1200 kg's
power to weight 144 bhp/ton
as i said nothing very dramatic in the figures department! tiff said it was the best handling front driver full stop when he tested it,its funny when a zs is slowly ctching a sti up on track and then as its looming up large in the mirrors the sti pulls in the pits ,,,aaaaaaaaaaah some folks just cant take itpassed by an old rover ,actually the owner of that scoob i wupped at pod didnt look very happy .
Im not saying the zs is a giant killer but a good one surprises everyone who takes the time to have a look .
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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What sort of power does the smaller hatchbacks have? (not sure of the model, are they also called ZS?) i didnt realise u were talking about the saloon version.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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the zs is saloon and hatchback and both make same power.
I am registered on every mgr forum and i have never heard anyone saying or hinting that their car was a scooby imitator cause it looks vaguely similar in blue,if they wanted scoobs they would get one ,i had one before my zs and all this usual scoobs beat anything in the twisties is total poop.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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Does the ZS have these factory fitted









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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonloops
Does the ZS have these factory fitted









Spot on fella
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Impreza in WR blue with gold wheels and a stupid ironing board size wing on the back



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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Smugness in the fact that the ZS is much cheaper to run,is a far better point to point car with is superior chassis,not likely to be stolen
Ok so when it first came out it wasnt too bad. Wasnt a class leader though neither.

Now about the superior chassis thing that is a laugh as it was mostly 15 year old honda chassis, which honda themselves stopped using 5-6 years before the ZS was released. Its just because it had double wishbone suspension that it could be tuned towards the track with a certain amount of success.

The reason why they hardly ever get stolen is because theyre not objects of desire. Simple as.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
Impreza in WR blue with gold wheels and a stupid ironing board size wing on the back



Oh the irony, rabid, your looking at purchasing a scoob and your daddy has one Dont **** on your own chips
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JCScooby
What sort of power does the smaller hatchbacks have? (not sure of the model, are they also called ZS?) i didnt realise u were talking about the saloon version.
I think you mean the small ZR hatch back, similar size to a 205. If you kept up with one in a XS/GT 205 it must have been the 1.4 ZS.... doubt you'd have kept with the 1.8VVC 160bhp one !!
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Oh the irony, rabid, your looking at purchasing a scoob and your daddy has one Dont **** on your own chips
Do your research better, I was looking at purchasing an Impreza for my father as a present. It wouldn't be a WR blue 4 door with gold wheels either.

Had a sense of humour failure or just don't like the truth? You seemed to find the hackneyed Rover cliches amusing, sometimes I guess stuff is just to near to the knuckle for some people. What a shame.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
Do your research better, I was looking at purchasing an Impreza for my father as a present. It wouldn't be a WR blue 4 door with gold wheels either.

Had a sense of humour failure or just don't like the truth? You seemed to find the hackneyed Rover cliches amusing, sometimes I guess stuff is just to near to the knuckle for some people. What a shame.
My bad then, i didnt really care much anyway .

I dont care about the image of the car, you tell me a car that packs as much punch per pound spent . Whats wrong with designer labels and lashings of gold? If it was good enough for Jesus it's good enough for us
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
My bad then, i didnt really care much anyway .

I dont care about the image of the car, you tell me a car that packs as much punch per pound spent . Whats wrong with designer labels and lashings of gold? If it was good enough for Jesus it's good enough for us
Yes you 'bad' you chav speak toerag.

Car that packs as much punch- Nissan 200SX in lieu of a classic, Mitsubishi EVO in place of a blobeye. No need to state a replacement for the bugeye, it's a ***** loser car so only a sh1thead would buy one of those.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
Yes you 'bad' you chav speak toerag.

Car that packs as much punch- Nissan 200SX in lieu of a classic, Mitsubishi EVO in place of a blobeye. No need to state a replacement for the bugeye, it's a ***** loser car so only a sh1thead would buy one of those.
Constructive comments there........i'm not getting dragged into pointless name calling etc on a bbs.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Constructive comments there........i'm not getting dragged into pointless name calling etc on a bbs.
Yeah best to stick those fingers in your ears and hum

"it's not a chav car withdrawn after a couple of years for being an awful mess everybody hated"

then

"take me to a happy place, take me to a happy place"

What a ******* loser....hahahahahaha.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
Yeah best to stick those fingers in your ears and hum

"it's not a chav car withdrawn after a couple of years for being an awful mess everybody hated"

then

"take me to a happy place, take me to a happy place"

What a ******* loser....hahahahahaha.
Ok then.....
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Ok then.....
It's good to see someone realising when the truth is against them. Well done, next on the list will be to see if you can offload the nedmobile and get something decent.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
It's good to see someone realising when the truth is against them. Well done, next on the list will be to see if you can offload the nedmobile and get something decent.
i came from a e46 m3, and the scoob is the better car for me.

May i ask what your car history is?
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
i came from a e46 m3, and the scoob is the better car for me.

May i ask what your car history is?
You came from an E46 M3? Credit payments obviously to much for you. Much better to be in a corrola look alike cheapy that nobody else wants while you look for a penny to rub against the other one, that makes sense.

I've owned many cars, some good, some indifferent but never anything that was canned by the manufacturer after a short period of time for being an unmitigated disaster.

Too many to list here but I did enjoy my 'classic' Impreza despite it's many faults.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
You came from an E46 M3? Credit payments obviously to much for you. Much better to be in a corrola look alike cheapy that nobody else wants while you look for a penny to rub against the other one, that makes sense.

I've owned many cars, some good, some indifferent but never anything that was canned by the manufacturer after a short period of time for being an unmitigated disaster.

Too many to list here but I did enjoy my 'classic' Impreza despite it's many faults.
the money is not an issue, it was just too flash for me and not as confident in its stance as the STi is .

no car is perfect though, but for the money an impreza is a formidable machine do you not think?

Rabid: clear some space in your pm box please
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy

no car is perfect though, but for the money an impreza is a formidable machine do you not think?
Depends which Impreza you are talking about. It's possible to do a lot better than a bugeye sti for the money though.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
Depends which Impreza you are talking about. It's possible to do a lot better than a bugeye sti for the money though.
is it though, as you have said they are fairly cheap and the same power and performance as the blob leaving more change in your pocket for mods and insurance . I personally find the bug to be more flattering than a blob eye as they're bonnets are too high and the front end looks awkwardly bulky which is why i went for the bugeye. The classic cabin is dated now and i prefer the refinement of the new age in a every day car . Horses for courses it's all consumer requirements which is why so many brands offer so many different models and have sales for each and every one. No one car is better than another, that is dependent on what criteria you choose

Maybe have a look in gallery at the bugeye thread, you might find a model you like in there, most people have come round to bug eyes maybe you too could give them a second chance
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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lol@ any new age offering refinement. The bugeye and blobeye are barely more refined and other than MY2005 blobeye all have truly awful interiors. MY2005 was a big step up in quality even if it still looks cheap.

I doubt there are any bugeye cars I'd like, it is IMO one of the worst looking cars ever made- on a par with a Ssanyong Rodius.

That said the MY2006- 'japs eye' model isn't much better, the chav style lexus lights and awful front styling makes one of the worst looking cars since.............................the blobeye. 2 own goals out of 3.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
lol@ any new age offering refinement. The bugeye and blobeye are barely more refined and other than MY2005 blobeye all have truly awful interiors. MY2005 was a big step up in quality even if it still looks cheap.

I doubt there are any bugeye cars I'd like, it is IMO one of the worst looking cars ever made- on a par with a Ssanyong Rodius.

That said the MY2006- 'japs eye' model isn't much better, the chav style lexus lights and awful front styling makes one of the worst looking cars since.............................the blobeye. 2 own goals out of 3.
lol, thats fair comment then, but the cabin of a new age is more modern and it is more refined than a classic one IMO and thats what i like in a car .

As for its looks it's not aesthetically pleasing, but it's not an eyesore. I think with STi lights it's actually quite a looker, with pleasing lines but thats just my opinion and beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Clear Some Pm's Out though mate
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Ok so when it first came out it wasnt too bad. Wasnt a class leader though neither.

Now about the superior chassis thing that is a laugh as it was mostly 15 year old honda chassis, which honda themselves stopped using 5-6 years before the ZS was released. Its just because it had double wishbone suspension that it could be tuned towards the track with a certain amount of success.

The reason why they hardly ever get stolen is because theyre not objects of desire. Simple as.

That post shows just how little you actually know about cars. Not only are you factually incorrect, you're also talking bollocks.

The ZS has one of the finest FWD chassis ever produced. But then if you really are an 'AudiLover' you just wouldn't understand. Anyone ever explained the difference between handling and grip to you?
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Rabid you are clearly a ****. Throwing insults at someone because you dont like their motor. I have a bugeye sti and in my eyes its the nuts. I dont know what you drive but Ive founded the opinion that you are a complete f*cking Pr*ck. Why is this forum just full of people who have to spout BS just because they hate scoobs. Dont like em go read something else and leave this site for people who do love their motors.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ninjaguppy
Rabid you are clearly a ****. Throwing insults at someone because you dont like their motor. I have a bugeye sti and in my eyes its the nuts. I dont know what you drive but Ive founded the opinion that you are a complete f*cking Pr*ck. Why is this forum just full of people who have to spout BS just because they hate scoobs. Dont like em go read something else and leave this site for people who do love their motors.
alright ninja!! Hows your bug coming along?

Don't mind rabid, he just doesn't get it.......my respect that is

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Oh dear, did not take long to get messy did it, look - keep it civil or this will get vaped.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Oh dear, did not take long to get messy did it, look - keep it civil or this will get vaped.
We tried, there is a common denominator in these threads and that guys name begins with an R . Did i not try and diffuse the situation
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
That post shows just how little you actually know about cars. Not only are you factually incorrect, you're also talking bollocks.

The ZS has one of the finest FWD chassis ever produced. But then if you really are an 'AudiLover' you just wouldn't understand. Anyone ever explained the difference between handling and grip to you?

Finest FWD chassis ever produced

So your saying its in the top 5 best FWD cars ever?

The MG ZS (2001-2005) was a sporting family car derived from the Rover 45 (launched in 1999). The 45 was a facelifted version of the Rover 400 which was launched in hatchback form in 1995 and saloon form in 1996. The Rover 400 had much in common with the Honda Civic of 1995-1999. At the time of development, Honda and Rover worked in partnership to design and develop cars for the Japanese and European markets.

The Rover 45 donor car did not have a reputation for being a driver's car but the Honda-derived chassis with advanced double-wishbone suspension offered potential for tuning. As a Rover, the company always chose to optimise the car for comfort rather than handling — as an MG this choice was reversed.
I dont see how you could say this car has a better chassis than that of a impreza STI.
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