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Old 09 March 2006, 06:33 PM
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Elvington near York Run What U Brung >> This Sunday , theres a few scoobs there so go and beat them
Old 09 March 2006, 06:48 PM
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Gtir's are 1220 kg's for the RA version and the RB version is 1190 kg's





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These are dry weight figures i think.......


Originally Posted by DazW

Anyone know if 1235kg for a classic is dry or kerb?
My GtirRB weighs 1205KG with fuel and me in it when it goes up the strip., only the interior removed.

As bog standard it weighed 1240kg (but had aircon when it shouldn't have, so say 1217kg with no aircon but same amount of fuel)


Originally Posted by AudiLover
Evo trounces them both end of discussion.
I've already put up a video of me beating a WR1, me with 80odd bhp less, so here's one of me beating a claimed 430bhp (380+50bhp nos) EVO on the same day

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Old 09 March 2006, 07:21 PM
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Youve got a fast one there Carl, good luck to you, >> may meet you on track !!! But by that vid you will win . as mines only 400 " 400 min,
Old 09 March 2006, 08:43 PM
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Fast, but not fast enough
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Old 09 March 2006, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl2
here's one of me beating a claimed 430bhp (380+50bhp nos) EVO on the same day

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I think he "claimed" wrong there Theres no way that Evo was 430 bhp

A genuine 400 bhp Evo would do low 12's easily with a decent driver!
Old 11 March 2006, 03:45 PM
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I'd have expected it to do low 12s even with his missed 4th gear change or a terminal of near 120mph, but even up to the 1/8th he wasn't performing like a 300bhp EVO, never miind a potential 430bhp one
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at crail dragstrip a few years ago standard gtirs were doing approx 14.5 for the quarter but one guy had a seriously tuned one which did 12.1s.my standard uk my 99 wagon with 215bhp did 14.7 secs.there were several standard gtirs posting the same times no way 13.5 is a standard cars time .
Old 13 March 2006, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by subevo
at crail dragstrip a few years ago standard gtirs were doing approx 14.5 for the quarter but one guy had a seriously tuned one which did 12.1s.my standard uk my 99 wagon with 215bhp did 14.7 secs.there were several standard gtirs posting the same times no way 13.5 is a standard cars time .
As I said, 13.9seconds is the offical standard figure for a Pulsar, some have achevied slighter quicker but they might not be a standard RA model, but 13.9secs is regarded as correct in perfect conditions. Some people ditch weights, and then run just an exhaust and filter and still call its standard, it aint, and will gain a few tengths.

6 years ago when I first bought my R and set it up it ran a 13.6 with just exhaust and filter at the pod, on standard boost. But the car needs to be cained 5k+ off the line with snap gear changes, most have some tlc which usually adds half a second, not to mention people get paranoid about their box. Then there's the fact whether the car is setup to run its standard bhp on correct fuel, its an old car after all.

To get a standard time and get everything perfect in perfect conditions on any car means your doing well.


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Old 13 March 2006, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by subevo
at crail dragstrip a few years ago standard gtirs were doing approx 14.5 for the quarter but one guy had a seriously tuned one which did 12.1s.my standard uk my 99 wagon with 215bhp did 14.7 secs.there were several standard gtirs posting the same times no way 13.5 is a standard cars time .
It depends on the driver and if he's prepared to show no mechanical sympathy and launch it right ie 1.8-19s 60ft area for a standard car. I'm damn sure if I put my power from 246 back to 215bhp it wouldn't have added 1.5secs to my time. I wish I had dragged it 100% standard just to find out.
Mine is hardly tuned at all, and only had 260ish bhp (0.9bar) when it ran a 12.4 at RotorStock2 last year.
The quoted standard 1/4 is about 13.9, which is my slowest ever 1/4 time with 246bhp and that included a bogged start, missed 3rd and then a slipping clutch in 3rd when I did find it.

I must type quicker Steve
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Carl, yours is different, its the short ratio'd, lighten'd RB model, and I personally believe the RB model is and should be quicker (over the 1/4mile) than standard offical RB figures (14.4) suggest and the more common GTi-R RA (13.9secs) figures too. I know there is an extra gear change, but you've proved they are quicker, and I too would of liked to see it running totally standard back then. I haven't seen any mags test an RB light version press car, so am dubious of such quoted figures.

You need to type as quick as you can launch.
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Originally Posted by subevo
at crail dragstrip a few years ago standard gtirs were doing approx 14.5 for the quarter but one guy had a seriously tuned one which did 12.1s.my standard uk my 99 wagon with 215bhp did 14.7 secs.there were several standard gtirs posting the same times no way 13.5 is a standard cars time .
My GTiR ran a 13.4 with a set of lightweight 16's and just an exhaust system ( with cat ) for modfications, now i've got rid if the cat and got an induction kit aswell so it should be about 245BHP, i'm of to the pod in a couple of weeks to get it timed again hoping for a 13.1 but 13.2 would be ok,

If any of you fancy meeting up there for a FRIENDLY challenge it would be good to see some of you up there, have something proper to race against rather than a saxo !!!! 9th of April if anyone interested
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My brother used to have a Pulsar Gti-R.

The SR20DET is a very good engine. It has quad throttle bodies as standard and is very tuneable. A few chioce mods will easily see the car pushing 300 BHP. Ours was RR at 298BHP with a top mount cooler.

Agreed the brake are poor, they can be upgraded easily though, I think you can use 200sx (S14) brakes or the Tar-Ox 6pots.

Ours was timed with proper timing gear and clocked a 4.67 0-60MPH before the front mount cooler was fitted.

Getting into the 12's with a mildly tuned R is commonplace. Check out the OC for more details.

The G/Box isn't as bad as mis-informed people say it is, just bear in mind that it is a rather old vehicle now.

Handling can be sorted out with a good suspension kit.

RE: the Gti-R track potential, I follow the DDMC races at Croft Racing Circuit and have seen a Gti-R regulary finish in first place. Infact I beleive it won the championship last year and finished ahead of a 6R4.

They are light and have excellent pickup and a strong engine. Got to be one of the best hot hatches of the era! quite an accomplishment for a car bulit around 1991.

Cheers

Kam.
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