Suresh

If I may respond -


1. I am offended and upset about people burning my flag. The response I typed was 12 hours after I first heard the news. An earlier posting wouldn't have been so polite. Please respect my right to be offended without insulting me, okay?


2. If you are insinuating that 'my religion' might be responsible for hate crimes, you are wrong. I have no religion. My parents gave me free choice, and I exercised my brain for about 30 seconds to choose none. You obviously were not given free choice and I pity you for that.


3. Your commentary (condemnation?) on the act itself is remarkable by its absence.


Suresh
Still fuming by the way.

AsifScoob

Sorry Suresh, but you are not reading my post. I in no way complained about your taking offence at what you saw to be a very offensive act.

I complained at your way of using that to have a dig at 1.2 billion people.

I was not aware that you have no religion, you have never revealed that before IIRC. I dont have much in the way of religion either, I just dont see that as an excuse for being offensive. Insinuating that I am somehow brainwashed is way off the mark.

Are you saying atheists do not commit crimes of hatred? I bet they do.

If you are so free thinking though, why do your posts seem so one tracked?

Again, why not examine the larger World for crimes of religious hatred? You would seem to be the perfect person to do so, as you follow no religion?

I have made my view on flag burning clear on another thread, i'm not a fan.

Sorry that you are still fuming, you need to take a chill pill. Flag burning may be offensive, but worse things happen at sea, or on London Transport.

Asif

Poor Guy

god i want to smash the **** out of whoever burned my flag.

Suresh

Asif, that was me being offended. I was rude and I had a dig.
Note that I didn't threaten anyone with death, or set anything on fire. I just typed something that was somewhat unfair.

I made a choice to be agnostic. I told our friend moses that for years, but he always insisted that I am some kind of BJP extremist - as though it was his belief and that he couldnt possibly be wrong. There is a pattern there.

If a person's religion was chosen for them by their parents and they were indoctrinated whilst still children then one could reasonably argue that they have been 'brainwashed'. I'm sure that if I expanded my point in context that I would only succeed in causing you offence rather than convincing you of anything.


My current affairs posts are indeed sometimes one tracked. With good reason too. Do you realise that the antics of members of one part of the 'asian community' have a dramatic negative effect on other members too? For example, friends of Indian origin in the UK remark that racism in the job market (financial sector) has increased considerably since 2001 and the events of the July 2005 didn't really exactly help accelerate the recruitment of 'educated darkies' into good jobs. They are not the only ones who are affected.

I actively distance myself from those who would drag me down in as much as I can. This is the behaviour that you are seeing. It's not that unreasonable is it?



By the way, I noticed a 'hate crime' in the news today which totally floored me as it's irony was obviously lost on those perpetrating it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4721336.stm

" The Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre is constructing a Museum of Tolerance on [a 1000 year old muslim] cemetery. The centre says the museum will seek to promote "unity and respect among Jews and between people of all faiths". "

I think they're mad to be honest. We'd be much better off without religious fanatics.


Suresh

P.S. Poor Guy - I know how you feel mate.

RedFive

Yeah, you are sending out very mixed messages and emotions for sure.

Suresh

A message from Scoobynet's resident apologist.
Tell someone who cares!

RedFive

Gee, so much hatred for such a rational Dutch citizen, tssk tssk.

Oh, you do care. You shout it out with every post you put on here. Some people do read between the lines dear

RedFive

Oh, and please do try to learn the customs of your resident country and learn Dutch. You wouldn't make such a complete *** out of yourself by trying to score with a 60 people demonstration.

Suresh

No really, your naiive opinion doesn't carry any weight. Maybe you should try reading and understanding rather than preaching. Anyway, surely your feet get cold with those sandals on in this weather? My guess is ambtenaar? Am I right?

RedFive

As always, assumptions are the mother of all ****ups. If you would have truly been British, you would have known that Sadly, you are between 3 cultures now, and it seems to hurt

Maybe one has to assume furriners don't really "get it".