Danes upset Islam bigtime
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Originally Posted by kammy
Bull **** Mr hangman. Are you really telling me that something depicting Western hate could be published by an offical, national paper and not be taken notice?
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Im not anti any thing with regards to race, religion etc. The true trouble makers are people do not seem to understand the true situation. The violent 'brain-washed-muslims' are merely fueling the chance for Western governments to gain greater control of oil.
If you study the OPEC shocks of the 1970-1990, gues what followed-the Gulf war.
any hows I have 'wasted' too much time as no doubt it will go straight in and straight out of many of your narrow minded, racist brains.
If you study the OPEC shocks of the 1970-1990, gues what followed-the Gulf war.
any hows I have 'wasted' too much time as no doubt it will go straight in and straight out of many of your narrow minded, racist brains.
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European countries have already been bending over backwards to accommodate the customs and religion of the large number of muslim immigrants, who have chosen to come and live in Europe of their own accord. Are we now expected to curtail our fundamental press freedoms as well, and allow us to be dictated to by extremists and fanatics in far flung countries?
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European countries have already been bending over backwards to accommodate the customs and religion of the large number of muslim immigrants, who have chosen to come and live in Europe of their own accord. Are we now expected to curtail our fundamental press freedoms as well, and allow us to be dictated to by extremists and fanatics in far flung countries?
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Originally Posted by 22BUK
One of the cartoons shows Muhammad wearing a bomb-shaped turban.
In another he tells dead suicide bombers that he has run out of virgins with which to reward them.
In another he tells dead suicide bombers that he has run out of virgins with which to reward them.
suggest he moves out of cardiff then.
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Originally Posted by Spring Heeled Jack
Are we now expected to curtail our fundamental press freedoms as well, and allow us to be dictated to by extremists and fanatics in far flung countries?
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Its hardly surprising that the Muslims are upset at cartoons of Muhammed. It shows disrespect and naturally enough that is important to them. Very unwise to do that in my opinion.
New_scooby_04,
I also would have no time for any supporters of a religion who advocate violence as you say. That does not mean the the actual religion itself is recommending such action, it is purely down to people for their own ends.
If you look into it you will find that religions do not include such actions in their required way of living your life.
Les
New_scooby_04,
I also would have no time for any supporters of a religion who advocate violence as you say. That does not mean the the actual religion itself is recommending such action, it is purely down to people for their own ends.
If you look into it you will find that religions do not include such actions in their required way of living your life.
Les
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Agree completely, an idea is not always responsible for those who believe in it!! I don't believe that the Muslim faith advocates violence per se. I think it's just a good target for being hijacked by fanatics that by virtue of their conduct actually profane -not support- it.
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albeit thousands of fanatics, in many countries, all encouraged to kill, willing to kill and willing to be killed ...
may i raise a pertinent point? if islam has been hijacked by fanatics - a nice line that plays well with liberal media types it seems to me - then why does the host religion tolerate this act of 'piracy'? should it not vigorously expunge that which it claims is ungodly and heretical?
reasoned & considered comment only please. i'm curious, as are others.
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albeit thousands of fanatics, in many countries, all encouraged to kill, willing to kill and willing to be killed ...
may i raise a pertinent point? if islam has been hijacked by fanatics - a nice line that plays well with liberal media types it seems to me - then why does the host religion tolerate this act of 'piracy'? should it not vigorously expunge that which it claims is ungodly and heretical?
reasoned & considered comment only please. i'm curious, as are others.
albeit thousands of fanatics, in many countries, all encouraged to kill, willing to kill and willing to be killed ...
may i raise a pertinent point? if islam has been hijacked by fanatics - a nice line that plays well with liberal media types it seems to me - then why does the host religion tolerate this act of 'piracy'? should it not vigorously expunge that which it claims is ungodly and heretical?
reasoned & considered comment only please. i'm curious, as are others.
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
Don't post links guys/gals please.
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
The fanatics have won! SN is censoring these pics which is just what these loony nutters are wanting. I mean, it's not as if SN is hosting the pics or even showing them, it's just a link.
Google the pictures, I'm sure you'll find them but if they are posted here or a link posted to them, there will be complaints. Just trying to pre-empt & keep a harmonious atmosphere on a car enthusiasts website. We already have 2 people on this thread offering each other out over it 
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
How many followers of the Islamic faith are there? The terriorists that purport to represent Islam, because of their fanatical nature, do get a lot of publicity and this does create the impression of a religion that is predicated around violence and domination. However my -admitedly very limited- understanding of the religion is that fundamentally, life -any life- is seen as sacred. Any time you see an atrocity on the news you tend to get a stream of muslim leaders condeming violence and saying that terrorists do not represent the faith and are just perverting it for their ends.
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islam has hundreds of millions of true and devout followers. that's a lot of spiritual traction. so what does an apparent inability - or apparent unwillingness, take your pick - to control its extreme fringe say about those that are in the positions of responsibility?
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Originally Posted by kammy
Please tell me you are trolling with a comment like that?
The European press, as any press in a free democracy, has every right to publish cartoons depicting anything in any light, including Islam. The fact that radical Islamists got touchy and upset over a few harmless cartoons shows how intolerant they are of anything even remotely resembling criticism of their faith.
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Google the pictures, I'm sure you'll find them but if they are posted here or a link posted to them, there will be complaints. Just trying to pre-empt & keep a harmonious atmosphere on a car enthusiasts website. We already have 2 people on this thread offering each other out over it
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See the images on Newsnight on BBC2 tonight:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...021464,00.html
This is a link to the story - not the images.
Considering the controversy, I'm surprised the BBC are risking it knowing how PC they like to be!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...021464,00.html
This is a link to the story - not the images.
Considering the controversy, I'm surprised the BBC are risking it knowing how PC they like to be!
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Fair comment IMO from the BBC debate:
"Islamic law does not apply to newspapers published in the West and Muslims cannot expect to be able impose Islamic law on non-Muslims. Muslims need to appreciate that their religion (and therefore Mohammed) is sacred only to themselves. If they have faith then no amount of cartoons in western newspapers should matter."
"Islamic law does not apply to newspapers published in the West and Muslims cannot expect to be able impose Islamic law on non-Muslims. Muslims need to appreciate that their religion (and therefore Mohammed) is sacred only to themselves. If they have faith then no amount of cartoons in western newspapers should matter."
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ooh..it's getting a bit heated in here...
just to throw some more fuel on the fire:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...021728,00.html
What about Nick Griffin getting off?
Doesn't that send out another signal about the relations between the west and islam?
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just to throw some more fuel on the fire:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...021728,00.html
What about Nick Griffin getting off?
Doesn't that send out another signal about the relations between the west and islam?
C