Remster

What a sad state of affairs. IMHO of course.

You spend approx. 1/4 of each year working (based on 40hr working week) and by the sounds of it many of you are simply going through the motions as a means to earn money. You can get more out of it you know! Those individuals who give a little extra in their job may be doing so purely because they enjoy it. There intentions may not be to win over their boss or gain extra money but simply to partake in an activity which they enjoy.

I pity you if you are prepared to sheme and skive your working life away thus wasting all that precious time that should be spent attaining fulfiullment. You will find that if you enjoy your job and as a consequence, work hard at it, the rewards will natuarally come without having to think about it.

Without work and the diciplines associated with, the majority of us would degenerate as human beings owing to the fact that we are unable to structure our lives ourselves.

We love to moan about the state of affairs in the UK but we are contributing greatly to our own downfall. If we got on with it instead of moaning, taking time off for colds, hangovers, SAD, multiple holidays etc. the country would soon become a better place to live. The "WORK TO LIVE" statement only really applies when it means that literally. In some 3rd world countries this is the case and funnily enough they value their jobs more than ever, and enjoy them. The work to live ethos in this country simply means working to gain (i won't say earn) more money to fritter way on unecessary material goods and partake in worthless time wasting pursuits, holidays etc. The more you have, the more you want and so the cycle continues spiralling downwards as people look at others and become less and less satisfied with life. IMHO the UK has become a too affluent nation which has clouded what life is really about.

Sorry for the rant, i'm pissed off because it's round to Monday morning again and i'm back at work!

_RIP_

lol, I was going to start my own rant about how not everyone has a job they enjoy, until I read the last sentence

p1mark

Remster has some good points!

the company i work for has 700 employees, 500 based on the shop floor.

up until a year ago we only employed english (of varying race and hue) people. including maybe 100 temps.

Getting temps that are reliable is impossible - unless you get them from europe - so we now have 80 estonians / poles etc who turn up on time every day, dont go missing on the sick and dont disapear to the bog for an hour a day. They are paid the same money as UK residents on a 6 month contract.

And we only have ourselves to blame unfortunately

Brendan Hughes

Unbeliever! Get thee out of NSR, Satan, for all immigrants are the devil's messengers!

V1CK1

Im one of the lucky ones, I love my job.

However i do plan to retire at 35

King RA

I do find eastern european women are much fitter tho and I think thats reason enough to employ them over their uglier native counterpart

Buckrogers

Depends on the company. I have been paid for my unused holidays before.

_RIP_

Same here, even given the option of working as many of my holidays for pay as I like, which was zero.

turboman786

That's my philosophy.....work hard when you are young, pay off erevrything, have sounds investments, then chill once you have reached your target....worked for previous generations, not sure it will work for my workshy generation...

paulr

What i meant was he has never had a day off sick in 7 years.We work a 4 on 4 off system so he gets plenty of time off.
I thought it was quite an acheivement.

^OPM^

what i did-when i was in my early 20's doing overtime at work-the old folk in their 40's and 50's used to say what u doing overtime for at ur age-wait till ur my age and got bills etc-i used to reply i'm doing it now so when im ur age i wont need to-and guess what-im 35 now and got a house car,no mortgage and a nice portfolio of shares that will see me retire hopefully at 40-roll on 5 more years

StickyMicky

tbh i think people who take time of for being "sick" are lazy

never been one for taking sickys, then again i very rarelly get sick anyway, what do you class as sick?

headache?
runny nose?

nissan motors in sunderland have the right idea
you take a sicky in there and you know about it LOL

the amount of new lads i have seen not make it past 1 month LOL

Robertio

iTrader: (1)

It's over 15 years since I last had a day off sick, heading on for 6 years at my current place of employment.

If someone is paying me to work somewhere I'll be there. Taking a day off sick when you are perfectly capable of attending is akin to stealing your wage for that day IMHO.

Brendan Hughes

Agreed. But going in and putting all your microbes through the aircon of an office of 400 people is not exactly a good investment in human resources either.

Brit_in_Japan

It is quite an achivement. It calls for a special celebration. Take him out on a work night and get him so wasted that he cannot possibly get into work next day

Little Miss WRX

I have found a job I like too, I am off sick today due to not being able to breathe properly.
Considering my role in sales, the ability to speak does come in handy and hence I have been forced to stay at home whilst my asthma decides whether or not it wants to retreat.

Despite all that, I am still logged into work, making appointments, planning and following up on things, after all, the company is still paying for me.

MikeCardiff

iTrader: (2)

As an employer I can honestly say that staff loyalty is rewarded ( maybe not by big companies though ) - knowing you are paying someone to be sitting at home in front of the TV pretending they are ill, or when they have a hangover is fuxxing annoying. ( Especially when the bottom line is that money comes out of MY pocket ).

And if there are any perks, overtime, special projects going, guess who will get them ? NOT the workshy git who thinks you owe him a living and spends half the day chatting and staring out the window, and doesnt pull his weight.

Same if someone had to be laid off, first out the door would be the one who isnt adding anything of value to the business.

I wouldnt pay for machinery that only worked half the time - it would go back to the supplier as faulty and I'd expect a replacement, so why are there so many laws that mean you can't apply the same principals to people ?