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11 January 2006, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
If you dont like me why waste your time writting such long replies, because I can assure you, you are wasting your time. Face / bothered
11 January 2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
Just because i havent owned a VXR doesnt mean i cant express an opinion.
No offence, mate, just the reality of the situation
11 January 2006, 04:28 PM
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Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. But surely to listen to an uneducated opinion fron someone who has probably not seen one on the road nevermind driven one is foolish. It would be like me saying the Enzo is better than the Bugatti (you would be making a decision that was not based in experience)
11 January 2006, 04:28 PM
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Irrelevant haha ..... I like that, been called alot of things in the past but never that. 10/10 for originality.
I dont work, I sit at home all day trawling forums looking for bored people to be irrelevant to
I dont work, I sit at home all day trawling forums looking for bored people to be irrelevant to
11 January 2006, 04:35 PM
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Dont apologise to me fella ..... I like it here, almost live here
Its only an internet forum, not real life.
If you get the I wouldn't buy one no matter how good it was because its a Vauxhall comment too often ..... just remind people that Subaru originally made pick up trucks for farmers
Its only an internet forum, not real life.
If you get the I wouldn't buy one no matter how good it was because its a Vauxhall comment too often ..... just remind people that Subaru originally made pick up trucks for farmers
11 January 2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by VXRBOY
A big sorry to Gutmann pug who is now getting abuse from plums, who give scooby owners a bad name. I should have kept my mouth shut
11 January 2006, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo
It does mean, however, that your opinion isn't worth ****
No offence, mate, just the reality of the situation
No offence, mate, just the reality of the situation
Just out of curiosity GUTMAN when did you get your VXR???
11 January 2006, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Irrelevant haha ..... I like that, been called alot of things in the past "OBVIOUSLY" but never that. 10/10 for originality.
I dont work, I sit at home all day trawling forums looking for bored people to be irrelevant to
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11 January 2006, 06:58 PM
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Lol has some spotty oink hijacked their dads SN account? Must admit its made me chuckle
Back on track - saw a VXR in the flesh when at local vaux garage with the mrs (has old shape convertible). Must admit was pretty impressive. Looks very mean up close and very solid. Nice seats too. Only thing that let it down was the rest of the interior. Not many cars Id but in red
Bet there will be some great 2nd hand buys in 12 months time although as someone else said the new CTR has gotta be worth a butchers if they do something with the styling.
Simon.
Back on track - saw a VXR in the flesh when at local vaux garage with the mrs (has old shape convertible). Must admit was pretty impressive. Looks very mean up close and very solid. Nice seats too. Only thing that let it down was the rest of the interior. Not many cars Id but in red
Bet there will be some great 2nd hand buys in 12 months time although as someone else said the new CTR has gotta be worth a butchers if they do something with the styling.
Simon.
11 January 2006, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Sigh. 
Then laugh.
SGCOOBY - Do you stamp up and down when you post??
Sigh again
Then laugh.
SGCOOBY - Do you stamp up and down when you post??
Sigh again
11 January 2006, 08:04 PM
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Running costs are not that bad. 280 miles to the tank driving normal if you push a little like the wrx. Insurance loads cheaper. Also services only every 20k so that will be cheaper
11 January 2006, 08:27 PM
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Who said anything above 200BHP throught the front wheels is useless. What utter b#llock's.
I now drive a SAAB 9-3ss Aero with 237+ BHP and FWD and it has no problems at all with traction, it will eat standard WRX Imprezas and still return 32 MPG.
It will destroy a standard WRX, how do i know, because i sold my MY01 for the SAAB. I have also driven the new Focus ST and it will also destroy a WRX and give an STI something to think about + it sounds like it should with the twin rear pipes.
Have seen the VXR in the showroom but never driven it, i have been in the Zafira VXR and that was amazing for a people carrier.I can imagine the smaller Astra goes like stink.
Gutman you and i both know there are some serious a#ses on this board who falsley believe the performance world begins and ends with the Subaru Impreza, long live the members who say it how it is.
Zippy
I now drive a SAAB 9-3ss Aero with 237+ BHP and FWD and it has no problems at all with traction, it will eat standard WRX Imprezas and still return 32 MPG.
It will destroy a standard WRX, how do i know, because i sold my MY01 for the SAAB. I have also driven the new Focus ST and it will also destroy a WRX and give an STI something to think about + it sounds like it should with the twin rear pipes.
Have seen the VXR in the showroom but never driven it, i have been in the Zafira VXR and that was amazing for a people carrier.I can imagine the smaller Astra goes like stink.
Gutman you and i both know there are some serious a#ses on this board who falsley believe the performance world begins and ends with the Subaru Impreza, long live the members who say it how it is.
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11 January 2006, 08:43 PM
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Well nice to see a started a good thread
Did I have a motive, well yes and no. Wanted to see what the Scooby boys and girls thought and see how much of the press bias has come through.
A few people know me or have even been unlucky enough to meet me. Those that have know Ive owned 9 odd Scoobies. On the hot hatch front, recent ones have been a Fab VRS (AMD modded), 182 with Cup Packs, MKIV R32, S3, LCR and MKVGTI. Plus a couple of other exotica at other times.
I do have a VXR parked outside now and have to say its one of the best cars Ive ever owned. It reminds me of the day I first drove a Scooby, my brand new Terzo and when I got a P1.
Cars need to be fun, sure the GTI is a great car, but dull IMHO, the 182 will outhandle the VXR, but it needs more poke/a turbo.
For those looking to change, go try. Yes you will be faster out of the box in your WRX/STI but if you want something to grow into, the VXR might be up your street.
Clarkson didnt drive a VXR with the VXR suspension, so please dont go on his opinion. It could do with more headroom and parking sensor as std, but not much else.
I wouldnt say it was better than a Scooby. In 99% of road conditions, it would not struggle to stay with most Scooby's. I love them both
Jonathan
Did I have a motive, well yes and no. Wanted to see what the Scooby boys and girls thought and see how much of the press bias has come through.
A few people know me or have even been unlucky enough to meet me. Those that have know Ive owned 9 odd Scoobies. On the hot hatch front, recent ones have been a Fab VRS (AMD modded), 182 with Cup Packs, MKIV R32, S3, LCR and MKVGTI. Plus a couple of other exotica at other times.
I do have a VXR parked outside now and have to say its one of the best cars Ive ever owned. It reminds me of the day I first drove a Scooby, my brand new Terzo and when I got a P1.
Cars need to be fun, sure the GTI is a great car, but dull IMHO, the 182 will outhandle the VXR, but it needs more poke/a turbo.
For those looking to change, go try. Yes you will be faster out of the box in your WRX/STI but if you want something to grow into, the VXR might be up your street.
Clarkson didnt drive a VXR with the VXR suspension, so please dont go on his opinion. It could do with more headroom and parking sensor as std, but not much else.
I wouldnt say it was better than a Scooby. In 99% of road conditions, it would not struggle to stay with most Scooby's. I love them both
Jonathan
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11 January 2006, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Shall we talk about sgcooby now he isn't here
Come on sgcooby, I miss you .......
Come on sgcooby, I miss you .......
Slag someone off, gets plumbed with a reply then claims he's been misunderstood & only having a laugh, gets all defensive and then personal..!
Have a look at how many of his contributions to this forum follow the above format...!
Still makes me smile at how much effort he puts into his replys..
11 January 2006, 09:00 PM
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Clarkson cant drive anyway so his thoughts are irrelevant. He's also an arogant ****.
In all probability the majority of us wouldnt notice a great deal of difference between similar cars on a fav back road run. One is out of the rev range on one corner, the other on the next. One a little quicker here the other there.
Its more about the entertainment value and how the car makes you feel. I loved my 172 clio, to a certain extent wish I hadn't sold it. Before that I adored my TVR, made me smile everytime I turned the key in the garage.
Its no secret I love my 205 either.
My scoob still does it for me but if someone came to me with a good deal on a VXR or ST focus or Golf GTi for that matter I would be giving it some serious thought.
One day I will detail all the things I hate about scoobs and scoob ownership, then I can be rightly accused of slagging them off
Gary
In all probability the majority of us wouldnt notice a great deal of difference between similar cars on a fav back road run. One is out of the rev range on one corner, the other on the next. One a little quicker here the other there.
Its more about the entertainment value and how the car makes you feel. I loved my 172 clio, to a certain extent wish I hadn't sold it. Before that I adored my TVR, made me smile everytime I turned the key in the garage.
Its no secret I love my 205 either.
My scoob still does it for me but if someone came to me with a good deal on a VXR or ST focus or Golf GTi for that matter I would be giving it some serious thought.
One day I will detail all the things I hate about scoobs and scoob ownership, then I can be rightly accused of slagging them off
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11 January 2006, 09:19 PM
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Saw an Astra and Monaro VXR in the local garage, they don't look bad, astra a bit boyracerish maybe (still a billion times better than any subaru)
One thing that would seriously worry me about a Vauxhall is the reliability. My other half has one, it's 3 months old and has been back 5 times with varying problems. It could just be a duff car, but what makes it worse is that the Vauxhall dealer network is truly truly shocking.
http://http://astra-sri.co.uk/forums...ead.php?t=5946
It does seem they are the fastest car going
One thing that would seriously worry me about a Vauxhall is the reliability. My other half has one, it's 3 months old and has been back 5 times with varying problems. It could just be a duff car, but what makes it worse is that the Vauxhall dealer network is truly truly shocking.
http://http://astra-sri.co.uk/forums...ead.php?t=5946
It does seem they are the fastest car going
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11 January 2006, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by crush her
Saw an Astra and Monaro VXR in the local garage, they don't look bad, astra a bit boyracerish maybe (still a billion times better than any subaru)
One thing that would seriously worry me about a Vauxhall is the reliability. My other half has one, it's 3 months old and has been back 5 times with varying problems. It could just be a duff car, but what makes it worse is that the Vauxhall dealer network is truly truly shocking.
http://http://astra-sri.co.uk/forums...ead.php?t=5946
It does seem they are the fastest car going
One thing that would seriously worry me about a Vauxhall is the reliability. My other half has one, it's 3 months old and has been back 5 times with varying problems. It could just be a duff car, but what makes it worse is that the Vauxhall dealer network is truly truly shocking.
http://http://astra-sri.co.uk/forums...ead.php?t=5946
It does seem they are the fastest car going
Jonathan
12 January 2006, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonius
H'e been on here about 6 weeks and everytime I see one of his posts it's always the same:
Slag someone off, gets plumbed with a reply then claims he's been misunderstood & only having a laugh, gets all defensive and then personal..!
Have a look at how many of his contributions to this forum follow the above format...!
Still makes me smile at how much effort he puts into his replys..
Slag someone off, gets plumbed with a reply then claims he's been misunderstood & only having a laugh, gets all defensive and then personal..!
Have a look at how many of his contributions to this forum follow the above format...!
Still makes me smile at how much effort he puts into his replys..
As posted several times, i agree that the VXR probably is quicker than the WRX in certain conditions but someone also pointed out in this thread i think that they paid 21k for it. Seems a bit much for what you get especially when they made comparisons to a WRX which this person claimed was available for 17k. Astra worth 4k more?????? Doubt it. I didnt create these figures one of your fellow VWR owners posted them but to be honest I dont think its worth anything like that.
12 January 2006, 08:28 AM
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If you read the post again, I said that without the discount it would have been 21k i paid 18k, and now its not the performance your arguing against its the price???
The standard VXR is 19k but with extras you could get it well above 22K, not made up figures check it out. And standard you are getting more than you get in a standard wrx. (shocker)
The standard VXR is 19k but with extras you could get it well above 22K, not made up figures check it out. And standard you are getting more than you get in a standard wrx. (shocker)
