5 Dead in Car Crash in St Leonards
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Originally Posted by Wish
Well i feel sorry for the owner of the car .....
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
He may be overjoyed that it is gone now?
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Have read a bit of this thread, and although I can see where some people are coming from, I am astonished at the "celebration" of the death of 5 naughty kids.
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Originally Posted by JamieMacdonald
Have read a bit of this thread, and although I can see where some people are coming from, I am astonished at the "celebration" of the death of 5 naughty kids.
I wouldn't go as far as saying people are 'celebrating' the deaths.
We're just not all members of 'Do gooder' squad who think people like this should just get told they're naughty and be allowed to do exactly the same over & over. The opinion being that had they not died they would have probably continued to repeat this crime/behaviour until either one or more of them was killed or worse they killed or seriously injured some innocent people.
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I know that road very well as I use it to travel to the Shell garage. Went passed there yesterday and all I can say they hit that lamppost at a fair lick of speed seeing the shape of it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...es/4390038.stm
As someone said earlier I hope the car was road worthy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...es/4390038.stm
As someone said earlier I hope the car was road worthy
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Reality check.
Fair Dos, the kids were untimely killed.
They were taking a car without consent, hence criminals.
I've seen RTA's and they're not pretty.
It's not Just if someone is out pushing a pram and is smacked by a Twocker.
Dunno about the rest of you but I work hard to be able to enjoy my car; it's a priviledge, not a right, as someone mentioned previously.
Sure, it would gut me if any of my kids were on board, but my point is that they wouldn't be.
K.
Fair Dos, the kids were untimely killed.
They were taking a car without consent, hence criminals.
I've seen RTA's and they're not pretty.
It's not Just if someone is out pushing a pram and is smacked by a Twocker.
Dunno about the rest of you but I work hard to be able to enjoy my car; it's a priviledge, not a right, as someone mentioned previously.
Sure, it would gut me if any of my kids were on board, but my point is that they wouldn't be.
K.
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
I don't recall anyone in this thread condoning their behaviour, and I don't imagine anyone would.
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Originally Posted by JamieMacdonald
Have read a bit of this thread, and although I can see where some people are coming from, I am astonished at the "celebration" of the death of 5 naughty kids.
Do me a favour....
An innocent bystander could have been killed or seriously injured.
"Naughty" isn't even close....
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Astonishing, even the Taliban considered death to be a step too far as a punishment for theft. They only removed a limb for the perpetrators sins. In fact I'm sure many have seen the various snippets of footage smuggled out of Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc were "justice" is being administered. Diablo, your role would be that of the bearded man in the white tunic looking into the horrified eyes of the young theif just before you ended his life. A slit to the throat is a preferred method...... the garggling stops after about a minute and within two the flickering eyes become still.
If that is an attempt to make me feel revulsed at the propect of ending the life of yet another of societies scum, it was not even close......
2 minutes of suffering?
Sod using a slit to the throat - far to humane.
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Charlene Lunnon, 16, said she was with Danielle, Daniel, and Kelly "messing around" and drinking beer in the graveyard of the Church-in-the-Wood church in St Leonards before the accident.
The accident happened at 0142 BST on Battle Road, St Leonards, shortly after the stolen Metro is believed to have struck a cyclist.
Hey, but it's just a bit of 'naughty' fun though... a bit of *joy* riding. What's wrong with that?
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Originally Posted by Big Den
I wouldn't go as far as saying people are 'celebrating' the deaths.
We're just not all members of 'Do gooder' squad who think people like this should just get told they're naughty and be allowed to do exactly the same over & over. The opinion being that had they not died they would have probably continued to repeat this crime/behaviour until either one or more of them was killed or worse they killed or seriously injured some innocent people.
We're just not all members of 'Do gooder' squad who think people like this should just get told they're naughty and be allowed to do exactly the same over & over. The opinion being that had they not died they would have probably continued to repeat this crime/behaviour until either one or more of them was killed or worse they killed or seriously injured some innocent people.
Personally I am completely devoid of sympathy for the victims. If that makes me some sort of Beast in the eyes of many then so be it.
We were all that age and we all had the power of choice. They made a bad one and paid the highest price. Cest La Vie.
I'm just Glad they didn't take any totally inocent people with them.
These people Cannot Keep getting away with this kind of behaviour without getting caught out once in a while.
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Originally Posted by Bluie
As someone said earlier I hope the car was road worthy
This is about a bunch of toe-rags stealing a car. The condition of the car is not an issue - if they hadn't stolen it then they wouldn't have been in it!
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Why does that matter?!
This is about a bunch of toe-rags stealing a car. The condition of the car is not an issue - if they hadn't stolen it then they wouldn't have been in it!
This is about a bunch of toe-rags stealing a car. The condition of the car is not an issue - if they hadn't stolen it then they wouldn't have been in it!
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Originally Posted by Reality
My guess is the original poster is concerned that the family of the criminals will have some sort of claim on the owner and end up getting £5million compo for their loss !
That scenario just sums up this country - somebody has to be to blame, no personal responsibility for a person's actions.
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No sympathy, if they were stealing cars at that age, what would they
be up to later on in life??
Saves us tax payers keeping them in a few years when their banged up
for armed robbery or such like !!!
Rob
be up to later on in life??
Saves us tax payers keeping them in a few years when their banged up
for armed robbery or such like !!!
Rob
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im finding it fascinating how this issue has polarised opinion to such an extent on here...and it amazes me that the some of the 'what if...?' brigade suggest the possibility that maybe the occupants of the crashed car or at least some of them may have been victims themselves (peer pressure, drunk/incapable, etc)...?!
whilst it is a tragic outcome, isnt the lack of sympathy understandable when you apply a little common sense...?
whilst it is a tragic outcome, isnt the lack of sympathy understandable when you apply a little common sense...?
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Originally Posted by Reality
My guess is the original poster is concerned that the family of the criminals will have some sort of claim on the owner and end up getting £5million compo for their loss !
That is the reason why I made the comment, I'm sick and tired of the Bull$hit Blair society that encourages people to have kids even if they cannot afford them or love them and are the first to jump on the Compensation band waggon.
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
In a year's time, when (not if) his personality changes, and he's out late, and gets a lift in a car after he's downed 3 cans of Tennents for a dare (so not thinking straight), and he dies in a car crash - would you say "Good, he's dead"? What would you think about a load of other people saying that?
reality check... I take responsibility for my son, and certainly know where and when he goes out
sounds like you are the one with the probs
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Mart - do your maths. I said in a year's time. Hell, make it two, some of the kids involved were 16.
Good luck in being the perfect parent. No-one else has been so far, we'll look forward to your user's manual.
Good luck in being the perfect parent. No-one else has been so far, we'll look forward to your user's manual.
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Mart - do your maths. I said in a year's time. Hell, make it two, some of the kids involved were 16.
Good luck in being the perfect parent. No-one else has been so far, we'll look forward to your user's manual.
Good luck in being the perfect parent. No-one else has been so far, we'll look forward to your user's manual.
and hopefully my eldest knows the same..
mart
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It is sad that lives have been lost in a pointless manner. I'd be gutted if my car was stolen, and I'd like the thieves to have appropriate punishment as well, not the ****e "punishment" most of them get. It is the ultimate punishment to lose your life for a crime. If anybody deserves harsh treatment then the driver/thief of the car must be held responsible. I have no kids, but I do have a friend who lost a sister in a similar incident. She was a passenger in the car, she paid the ultimate price of being killed. She wasn't a bad person, a thief nor a scumbag, just had the misfortune to be with the wrong people at the wrong time. Yes it is a cliche, but it happens.
I find it pretty cruel for people on here saying they all deserved to die, even henious murderers in this country do not get killed by the state.
I'm no angel myself, but I never stole a car or joyrided in my life. Some people find themselves in situations like these. For the people openly saying they deserved to die, I hope your daughter isn't merry with her mates one night (of course they're at a mates watching videos and making cakes) and isn't in a state to make rational decisions. Gets into a car for a lift home, realises too late that something God Almighty fecking serious is going to happen. You can bet your **** the passengers in that car were screaming for that ******* total **** driving to stop when they realised their lives were flashing before them.
You can bet your **** the hang em high preachers on here would soon change their tune if a relation was in that car.
I find it pretty cruel for people on here saying they all deserved to die, even henious murderers in this country do not get killed by the state.
I'm no angel myself, but I never stole a car or joyrided in my life. Some people find themselves in situations like these. For the people openly saying they deserved to die, I hope your daughter isn't merry with her mates one night (of course they're at a mates watching videos and making cakes) and isn't in a state to make rational decisions. Gets into a car for a lift home, realises too late that something God Almighty fecking serious is going to happen. You can bet your **** the passengers in that car were screaming for that ******* total **** driving to stop when they realised their lives were flashing before them.
You can bet your **** the hang em high preachers on here would soon change their tune if a relation was in that car.
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Obviously, I didn't read it that way. The problem is that's the kind of thing the 'little darlings' scummy parents will be considering before the phrase 'bald tyre' has been uttered.
I think there is a difference between people say they don't feel much sympathy for those involved (understandable) and "celebrating" the death of 5 kids. The latter would be regrettable as I think everyone would have much preferred if those kids hadn't have made some very bad choices in life and ended up thinking it was ok to steal someone else's car and go for a drink fueled joyride!
The only thing to "celebrate" about this is the vague possibility that it might dissuade some other kids from doing the same thing!
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Who givs a toss he stole the fecking car tuff **** and as for the passengers, they all could have said "NO" we don't want to get in the car FFS They new it was knicked tuff ****
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I think it's a terrible shame that the theiving ***** that nicked each of the FOUR red cars I've owned didn't end up in the same way.
Worst sentence handed down to the ONLY one's that were ever caught (after my own bit of detective work) was 30 hours community service.
Shoot the fookin' lot
Sympathy? Why?
Worst sentence handed down to the ONLY one's that were ever caught (after my own bit of detective work) was 30 hours community service.
Shoot the fookin' lot
Sympathy? Why?
#118
Originally Posted by GCollier
All you keyboard warriors who think that the death of five young teenagers was a good or just outcome...
Would you be happy if our courts were handing out death sentences on children who steal a car?
Would you be happy to personally administer that punishment?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not bubbling over with sympathy for these people, but I don't think in this case that the punishment fits the crime.
Gary.
Would you be happy if our courts were handing out death sentences on children who steal a car?
Would you be happy to personally administer that punishment?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not bubbling over with sympathy for these people, but I don't think in this case that the punishment fits the crime.
Gary.
scenario 1 - they hit the wall and die, or
scenario 2 - they narrowly miss the wall and get back on the road, only to kill the occupants of another car 200 yards down the road - turns out that the occupants of the other car are your wife picking your kids up from a late night out after your kids behave in a responsible fashion and call mum for a lift home instead of stealing a car
Which would you prefer?
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It shouldn't have happened but it did. The parents don't seem to think that their children nicking cars was a problem.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. This is the ultimate of that saying.
They all had the option to not go along with it. It's like drinking and driving. I will not get in a car with anyone who has had a drop of alcohol. In the past I have actually ended up calling a friend etc to get me after my supposed designated driver has 'only' had a pint or two. I used my ability to say no and choose another option. They all had the ability to say no but chose not to. They paid the ultimate price for that stupidity.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. This is the ultimate of that saying.
They all had the option to not go along with it. It's like drinking and driving. I will not get in a car with anyone who has had a drop of alcohol. In the past I have actually ended up calling a friend etc to get me after my supposed designated driver has 'only' had a pint or two. I used my ability to say no and choose another option. They all had the ability to say no but chose not to. They paid the ultimate price for that stupidity.
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