Dave uk blue mica

my golf gt tdi 130 does anything between 45-64mpg depending on how its driven

KGB

My wife uses our 2004 Mondeo Tdci 130 every day for work (50 mile round trip on A & B class roads) and according to trip computer its giving 54mpg. Very comfortable cruiser and entertaining when pushed! Only downside has been the money we've lost, wife wants a Golf Gt tdi, Mondeo cost 18.5k 20 months ago yet i'm getting little interest in it now with ad at £9750!

slim_boy_fat

Tell me the book price was £18.5k but you didnt pay that......Surely you got about £2k discount off that minimum!!!!

KGB

computerangel

WE have just sold our P1 and bought a

SEAT Leon TDi 150 FR.

What a cracking car, VAG build quality, averaging 47 to the gallon.

but it's the smiles per miles that gets me, it handles ok, it grips ok.

But the running costs are great, we bought a ex-demo in Arctic for

£14.7k, great value.

Sorry to leave the Scooby world but it was an expensive toy and we p/exd the wifes Focus againt the Leon, so she can use it for work and i can have a play, especially when i get it REVO'd

Ta ra.

J1nxy

Just taken delivery of a New 2.2 ST TDCI Mondeo and its rather good :-) The car handles suprebly and the engine even with only 800 miles on the clock pulls really hard in all gears from no revs. The computer shows 41.2 mpg at the moment and thats includes at least 10 minutes a day in stop queues of traffic and trundling thru Mitlon Keynes. On a decent motorway journey I see mid to high 40's.

Steve

Andy Porter

Just filled up, 529.2 miles on trip computer, put 46.43 litres in, thats 51.82 MPG according to http://www.guycroft.clara.net/utils/mpg.html

dtriggs

My Revo'd Fabia vRS only gets on average 45/46 mpg but most of my driving is to the station and back. You have to be pretty gentle to get over 50 in my car even on the motorway. Having said that I cant get it below 42 driving like a lunatic. Revo has made it a touch more economical but not alot in it.

pippyrips

i think there is new one on the way which explains it

FirebirdUK

There is - next year...

Looks like this:




Still had a bargain with mine

Bubba po

I don't disbelieve the power figures, but I don't believe you'll still get 55mpg. Someone might prove me wrong.

chippy17

funny noone has mentioned BMW diesels as they are the best around buy a 320d/330d and you won't be dissapointed

you can then of course take it to DMS

logiclee

Probably because the thread starter said £9k.

For that you would get a ropey 115/130bhp 320D which are not a patch on the VAG stuff.

Cheers
Lee

chippy17

what about a 320d 2001 with 66k for £8.5 or is that too old?!

logiclee

Is that a 130 or a 150?

Don't think the thread starter would be interested as he said......
Cheers
Lee

slim_boy_fat

Simple fact is the mpg of a car is directly linked to your right foot. The harder you press then the less the mpg.

I used to average about 44mpg in the Ibiza, but it did drive it very hard, never missed an oppertunity to spank yet another scooby.

If you want ecconomy then a Golf Mk4 100PD is hard to beat, easily get over 50mpg all day every day.

Mate of mine has a 130GT TDI Golf and gets 53mpg to a tank and its chipped to 170bhp and 300lbft. But he oesn not generally drive fast and is fair bit of m-way.

chippy17

don't know I would guess it would be a 130 but that is no different to a PD130

it is always relative though, the 320d will be worth more when you come to sell it but it costs you more to buy...etc

brickboy

FWIW my boggo standard Passat PD130 Sport (6-speed box) has averaged 47 mpg over 32,000 miles. That's measured on fill-ups, NOT the trip computer. That's a 3-mile commute to work every day, plus family taxi duties and caning it down motorways.

Many road tests in the weekly and monthly rags say that VAG diesels are unusual in that they get close to their "official" economy figures in real-world driving. Other diesels -- especially the latest French ones and the new Honda CDTi -- don't get close to their official figures.

Doesn't apply for all cars, but the Passat is actually slightly more economical cruising at 85 / 90 on the motorway than 75 / 80. Could be 'cos the Passat is fairly aerodynamic, believe it or not.

A typical 300-mile m-way trip at point-to-point average of 65mph is 52-53mpg.

Meetgrinder

Been a lurker for ages so figured I'd register and stick my 2p in.

I swapped from a fast car (350hp+/over 400lb ft) to a diesel earlier this year, and missed the speed at first. Now I don't mind. Leon FR 150, chipped, stays with (dare I say slightly quicker than an Impreza WRX after 20mph?) quick-ish petrol cars on the straights and when driving about normally average 47mpg. Just filled tank up this morning, gauge halfway between 1/2 and 1/4, and done 434 miles, easy 600 to tank. Cheaper insurance, practical, bits don't fall off.

When buying the car I was looking at Beemer diesels but couldn't stomach spending 15k on a 5 yr old 100k+ miler, even though I know the 3.0d engine is good. The 535d would be my car to drive everyday, if money (and wife nagging) weren't an object, and yeah, that includes fast modded cars that are quicker to 60 etc.

Only thing with front drive diesels is that when chipped, traction is laughable, and up to 20mph you can get embarrassed by all sorts of crap. After that they eat your soot. It won't have the outright roadholding and pace of a hot hatch, but they don't do 47mpg average/55 on a run, so it depends what you're after.

If you're lucky enought to have 40k to spend, gotta be 535d then a remap to over 500lb ft of torque, just short of 350hp... And when cruising, 40mpg... *dream*

DJ140

I've just gone from a WRX PPP 03 to the Mondeo ST TDCI.

Averaged around 27 in the WRX, with a high of 31, but the ST is averaging 44MPG in the first 1000 miles. Hoping for slightly more as the engine loosens up, but well pleased with the ecconomy so far.

Plenty of torque and fantastic handling on the sports suspension and huge tyres!

njkmrs

Just sold the WR1 and do miss it .

Replaced it with a Seat Toledo TDi 110 .Have to say I do enjoy driving the Seat though .Can park it anywhere ,its reasonably comfortable after the hard ride of the WR1 .
I now get well over 500 to the tank full as oposed to less than 200 with WR1 .
Cruise control ,climate etc ,not a bad car at all ,23k miles ,cost 6.5 k ,so quite happy with it for the moment .
Dont even bother caning it ,because it doesnt exactly inspire you to ,so economy is the name of the game for a while .

zxr750Nick

ST 2.2 TDCi
Me too...... Drive like a loon get 42mpg. Careful on motorway is 50.

This is me. Still very impressed after 10 months
http://nickjdavies.fotopic.net/p22840086.html

Nick

www.GT4oc.com

Astra Sport Hatch SRi CDTI
add a £200 Powerclick box, gives it 203bhp and 312lb/ft and it averages 47.5mpg too.
Beats most things that are considered "quick" petrol turbo cars too

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I'd agree with that.

Even as standard, the 160/170 bhp high output 2.0d will be struggling to average 45 mpg never mind 55 mpg.

Sure, on a long steady run maybe, but throw in a mix of stop start town driving, fast b road, etc, and its just not going to happen unless you drive it for economy, in which case whats the point of having 200bhp & 300+lb/ft ?

It always amazes me how a) people believe the lies their trip computers tell them ( VAG ones are notoriously optimistic on MPG - as confirmed to me by two senior VAG technitians) and b) how the averages they quote are for short periods of time.

Cruising at 60-70 mpg off boost for long periods of time with the odd blat is hardly representative. Drive the cars to get the most of the torque (the way you would drive a more traditional preformance car) and you'll never see more than 45 mpg (at most) in the real world.

And I have to add, that having just driven a high output VAG diesel, they may have decent grunt, but the power band is even narrower than the already narrow power band of the 140 ps engines.

Not that great IMO.

Having said all that, they will be faster and more economical than similar petrol cars which is good enough for me

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Christ Nick, you have a remarkable resemblence to a Ford Mondeo

zxr750Nick

Good point...... I am far uglier than even the plug ugly car I drive. Wifey gets the Scoob every day, but at least I have the bikes for the weekend.

Nick

Blueblaster

Just a quick opinion from me. I am picking up my Civic CDTI next week. Having paid close attention to the MPG on the trip computer during the test drive I reckon the reason why long term road tests in magazines get relatively poor economy is because the engines are now so smoothe. The Honda diesel is so sweet it encourages you to rev it and therefore wallop the economy. Look carefully at the long term road test MPGs and compare them to the one-day road tests. The one day tests check the MPG over a standard route with the same driving style. All the diesels come out much the same in the economy stakes. No need for that restraint on a long term test. Given the main reason for buying a diesel is to save money on petrol i think most people will see better results than some of the magazines will have you believe. Here's looking forward to a couple of hundred quid extra in my pocket each month through better economy and lower insurance/maintenance.

paulwrxboro

vectra sri d i had one as a hire car i was impresed