davedipster

My god I'm confused now.
So attendants can only issue fines in roadside bays and car parks.
Police can only issue fines for obstruction on the road-outside of marked bays
NCP and council Attendants in local car parks can be ignored cos they won't bother to prosecute.

Things are looking up.

Dipster

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Yes, bascially you are right on the above.

Apart from the last bit. I would not say ignored. After all, if the word gets out that a certain firm is not willing to pursue a parking fine all the way to court, then everyone will just turn up to park for free.

You just need to make it too much hassle for them to bother with. Go onto Peppipo.com, or search out various parking sites to get rules and regulations. When you start quoting them, and pointing out a good defence, the chances of them actually chasing you into a court room are very small indeed.

Trucker Ted

Can't believe you got a ticket for that,christ, most of us on here purposely park like that too keep our cars from being damaged.Only obstruction you were causing was to the structural engineers who were going to inspect those concrete pillars exactly at the same time you were parked.(aye right).. Fight it all the way ,firstly by letter with the photos ,if it comes to it they aren't going to waste the time of a court with this...Good luck..

As for anyone saying you deserve the fine ,their talking from their ****,and they must have a car covered in dings!!

Stiff

A bit late now I suposse but my imediate reaction at getting the ticket would have been to move the car over slightly so that the tyres were on the white line instead of over them, THEN take the pictures Unless the attendant also took pictures (which I very much doubt) he will then be looked apon as being very petty and may well be reprimanded because of it. You would also have it quashed in no time A little devious perhaps but they started it

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Unless they have CCTV, and then used that to show that you moved the car....

Would have been best to take the pic with the ticket on the car in its current position though.

StickyMicky

did you have your left eye closed when you looked at his photos?

GC8

I think he means the previous occupier of that bay Michael.....

jods

UPDATE : Scanned in the text of the ar5eholes response to my letter and photos...

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Slough Borough councilg - __local government In the 21 st century
Our Ref: SBO0976792
Date: 05 September 2005
Mr Mark Jordan
Welwyn Garden City Hertfordshire
Dear Mr Jordan
Penalty Charge Notice: SBO097xxxx Vehicle Registration Mark: xxxxxxx
Date & Time of Issue: 25/08/2005 - 09:50
Thank you for your correspondence in regards to the above mentioned Penalty Charge
Notice (PCN).
Unfortunately your challenge made prior to the Notice to Owner has been rejected on this occasion. I have duly noted your comments however you are not permitted to park causing an obstruction. The parking attendants notes and photographs clearly show the vehicle in question was parked causing an obstruction.
As your challenge was received within the discount period, a reduced amount of £30.00 will be accepted as full payment of this Penalty Charge if payment is received within 14 days of the date of this letter. You now have the option to accept this decision or wait until you receive the Notice to Owner to appeal further, however please bear in mind that if you appeal further and it is upheld again, you may have to pay the full Penalty Charge of £60.
Slough Borough Council have assessed your case and are satisfied that the above Penalty Charge Notice was issued correctly, in accordance with the Road Traffic Act, 1991.
If you wish to make payment, credit/debit card payments can be made by calling 0845 120 2211. Alternatively, payments can be made in person at the Parking Shops situated at:
The Parking Office Unit 1
Shaftesbury Court 18 Chalvey Park Slough Berks
SL 1 2ER
Opening hours are 9am to 4.30pm Monday to Friday, and 9am to 1pm on Saturday. Cheques and Postal orders must be made payable to "Slough Borough Council" and can be sent to
the above address Yours sincerely
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Telephone: 0845 330 3318 Central Parking System
P.O. Box 745,Uxbridge Middex UB82XW

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Now call me a fat balding cynic if you want to BUT how the **** can Slough Borough Council be deemed to be impartial when I have to pay the money to them ???????

If I appeal does it go back to the council again ? In which case it is £60 without a doubt !!!

The pox on the lot of 'em

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

I think your second appeal will probably be with the council again...but should you lose that, you can fail to pay. Then they will have to take you to court.

They will then have to prove their case in court As they have rejected your appeal on the grounds of causing an obstruction I cannot really see how they can prove that given the photos you showed before...

stilover

They'll reject your appeal. That's their Christmas bonus/****-up/party money your trying to take from them.
How these people sleep at night is beyond me. It'll be some middle aged woman sat behind a desk all day. Ugly and she's never been laid. That's why there's no give and take with these arseholes.
Personly, I'd take it all the way to court. They are using scare tactics is saying you'll end up pay full amout if you lose, just so you'll pay now. Fight the ****ers.

Easy for me to say, yes cos it's not my money, but thats my opinion.

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Agreed, fight them all the way..

Tell them that you do not agree with their opinon, and wish to have your case heard by a court of law. Say that they have a legal duty to keep their costs to a minimum to bring your case to court, and that you expect them to adhere to this expectation.

I bet they will drop it with a decent letter..time for pepipoo.com...too drunk to spel it properly

jods

Anyone got the web address for pepipoo or whatever it actually is ?
Gonna take this fight to court to see what occurs. Will keep you all posted.

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Do you know what!!

I managed to spell it correct when drunk, and could not remember how to spell it how

www.pepipoo.com

Beastie

iTrader: (2)

I fail to see how the Road traffic act applies in a car park that charges admittance.

eddie c

Also how can you get done with obstruction what were you obsructing. It's not like no one could use the next space.

jods

has anyone got a copy of this ebook that I could "review" before buying ?

http://www.emediadirect.co.uk/speedingfines.html