renault clio sport could not pull on my old saab
#181
Originally Posted by Senior_AP
That's what differentiates you from a select group of WRX owners that just do not and WILL NOT accept certain truths.
I would add that my 315bhp wrx didn't **** all over a clio cup so I'd expect a PPP WRX to be struggling somewhat except when launching. I expect that the actual power to weight ratio for both cars is quite similar? On the other hand, I only ever had my **** handed to me on a plate twice, once by some crazy brabus merc and once by a skyline - both times I felt like I was going backwards That aside, the scoob managed to keep pace with quite a few exotic cars which I thought would have been a lot quicker
Unfortunately a few plebs think a 245bhp scooby will wizz all over a 172 bhp cup, us educated few know that it won't
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BHP / TONNE @ the wheels is a good way to guess likely on raod performance. But drivers can be a world apart, and some people care less than others irrespective of your driving ability.
Still i prefer to be the under dog snapping at the heels though
Still i prefer to be the under dog snapping at the heels though
#183
Originally Posted by Andy M3
BHP / TONNE @ the wheels is a good way to guess likely on raod performance. But drivers can be a world apart, and some people care less than others irrespective of your driving ability.
#185
Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Agree with all above posts - tick tock - tick tock until the educated voice of reason is shouted down by some ranting imbecile.
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Surely they will not persist...............
They will and don't call me Shirley
#187
Originally Posted by Rabid
Have you got any videos where both cars actually set off at the same time?
#189
Originally Posted by mg driver
i saw a bugeye run 15.6's all day at pod ,didnt matter what he did it just wasnt fast enough.
Amazingly capable cars, but "fast" in its strictest sense?? Not on your nelly.
#194
Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Are you joking?
13.9 in a standard blobeye is bloody quick, did you launch it at 9K revs
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Amazes me how these threads go on, and on....
One cannot argue with stats. A 172 Cup is a faster car than a new-age WRX. End of.
One cannot argue with stats. A 172 Cup is a faster car than a new-age WRX. End of.
They are both fast so who fookin cares which one is a tiny wee bit faster. People who say ' I blew a wrx or STI off the road in my clio ' or the other way round makes me laugh. Ive seen several videos, which you can download for yourself, some website.....'shand' something or other. On there you can see standard WRX's catching EVO's and STI's but everyone knows the EVO and STI is faster but its purely down to the drivers abilities. You also see a golf and a CTR passing EVO's etc. Its more down to the drivers ability than the car, as long as the cars are reasonably similar in performance of course, which the clio and wrx are.
I wont end by saying' END OF' as its a bit childish.
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Yep. Just checked again to make sure and the new 182 cup takes 6.9 secs to reach 60mph. The 172 will be even slower i would imagine. Couldnt find 0-100 figures on Renaults own website but ive seen them before in EVO mag and were very similar to WRX if not slower ill check again tonight.
Anyone who still feels that their clio will tear a scoob a new ars e hole please feel free to visit the renault webite yourself.
Still the clio is a nice car and pretty much identical to WRX for pace but one with PPP would easily see the clio off, doesnt matter what you clio owners think or claim to have seen.
Anyone who still feels that their clio will tear a scoob a new ars e hole please feel free to visit the renault webite yourself.
Still the clio is a nice car and pretty much identical to WRX for pace but one with PPP would easily see the clio off, doesnt matter what you clio owners think or claim to have seen.
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Always 0-?!?! WRX is probably a second or so quicker to 60 but to 100 they are probably pretty similar (seen them vary for the 172 Cup from high 16`s to high 17`s std) so the scoob would be off the line quicker but then the Clio would make it up by 100.
#201
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Funniest comment/picture I've read in ages, absolute class
#203
Originally Posted by sgcooby
Not from the stats ive read in several publications. The clio is slower. Renaults own figures also state this.
They are both fast so who fookin cares which one is a tiny wee bit faster. People who say ' I blew a wrx or STI off the road in my clio ' or the other way round makes me laugh. Ive seen several videos, which you can download for yourself, some website.....'shand' something or other. On there you can see standard WRX's catching EVO's and STI's but everyone knows the EVO and STI is faster but its purely down to the drivers abilities. You also see a golf and a CTR passing EVO's etc. Its more down to the drivers ability than the car, as long as the cars are reasonably similar in performance of course, which the clio and wrx are.
I wont end by saying' END OF' as its a bit childish.
They are both fast so who fookin cares which one is a tiny wee bit faster. People who say ' I blew a wrx or STI off the road in my clio ' or the other way round makes me laugh. Ive seen several videos, which you can download for yourself, some website.....'shand' something or other. On there you can see standard WRX's catching EVO's and STI's but everyone knows the EVO and STI is faster but its purely down to the drivers abilities. You also see a golf and a CTR passing EVO's etc. Its more down to the drivers ability than the car, as long as the cars are reasonably similar in performance of course, which the clio and wrx are.
I wont end by saying' END OF' as its a bit childish.
Did you go to the same school as Darryl???
WRX faster to 60 but slower to 100.
Do I have to spell it out?!?!?
OK - I shall, that means the WRX is "very" slower from, well, atleast 60-100 than the Clio. Probably more like about 30-100 in reality.
There is very little in it I know but please, please just say "ok - I accept that".
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#204
Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Did you go to the same school as Darryl???
WRX faster to 60 but slower to 100.
Do I have to spell it out?!?!?
OK - I shall, that means the WRX is "very" slower from, well, atleast 60-100 than the Clio. Probably more like about 30-100 in reality.
There is very little in it I know but please, please just say "ok - I accept that".
WRX faster to 60 but slower to 100.
Do I have to spell it out?!?!?
OK - I shall, that means the WRX is "very" slower from, well, atleast 60-100 than the Clio. Probably more like about 30-100 in reality.
There is very little in it I know but please, please just say "ok - I accept that".
Don't you get sick of being right all the time
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That is FAST.
e36 M3 Evo's only manage 13.8 so how you did that I'll never know!!
e36 M3 Evo's only manage 13.8 so how you did that I'll never know!!
I did have a Graham Goode Backbox, but other then that it was standard, all 3 cats where still in place, standard td04 turbo etc. Cant see it making a differance.
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
O.K Ill come clean!
I did have a Graham Goode Backbox, but other then that it was standard, all 3 cats where still in place, standard td04 turbo etc. Cant see it making a differance.
I did have a Graham Goode Backbox, but other then that it was standard, all 3 cats where still in place, standard td04 turbo etc. Cant see it making a differance.
Impressive. You must have a very, very good example!!!!
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
Yep. Just checked again to make sure and the new 182 cup takes 6.9 secs to reach 60mph. The 172 will be even slower i would imagine. Couldnt find 0-100 figures on Renaults own website but ive seen them before in EVO mag and were very similar to WRX if not slower ill check again tonight.
Anyone who still feels that their clio will tear a scoob a new ars e hole please feel free to visit the renault webite yourself.
Still the clio is a nice car and pretty much identical to WRX for pace but one with PPP would easily see the clio off, doesnt matter what you clio owners think or claim to have seen.
Anyone who still feels that their clio will tear a scoob a new ars e hole please feel free to visit the renault webite yourself.
Still the clio is a nice car and pretty much identical to WRX for pace but one with PPP would easily see the clio off, doesnt matter what you clio owners think or claim to have seen.
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Originally Posted by chris n`nic
Always 0-?!?! WRX is probably a second or so quicker to 60 but to 100 they are probably pretty similar (seen them vary for the 172 Cup from high 16`s to high 17`s std) so the scoob would be off the line quicker but then the Clio would make it up by 100.
So no more nonsense please about clio's beating STI ppp's let alone WRX's.
Still fast though but dont make stuff up.
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Did you go to the same school as Darryl???
WRX faster to 60 but slower to 100.
Do I have to spell it out?!?!?
OK - I shall, that means the WRX is "very" slower from, well, atleast 60-100 than the Clio. Probably more like about 30-100 in reality.
There is very little in it I know but please, please just say "ok - I accept that".
WRX faster to 60 but slower to 100.
Do I have to spell it out?!?!?
OK - I shall, that means the WRX is "very" slower from, well, atleast 60-100 than the Clio. Probably more like about 30-100 in reality.
There is very little in it I know but please, please just say "ok - I accept that".
You are wrong mate sorry.
Slower to 60 and even slower still to 100. You produce 1 document or publication that states otherwise as i have.
#210
Think you are not going to know which of these two cars is more capable until they are put where performance cars should be, on the track. None of this motorway, duel carriageway, drag strip, mines faster on paper nonsense this really can only be settled on the track. And I really think that the Cup would near as damn it be neck and neck with the WRX.