chris singleton

Not a WRX driver any longer I'm afraid, this is my latest weapon of choice

I would add that my 315bhp wrx didn't **** all over a clio cup so I'd expect a PPP WRX to be struggling somewhat except when launching. I expect that the actual power to weight ratio for both cars is quite similar? On the other hand, I only ever had my **** handed to me on a plate twice, once by some crazy brabus merc and once by a skyline - both times I felt like I was going backwards That aside, the scoob managed to keep pace with quite a few exotic cars which I thought would have been a lot quicker

Unfortunately a few plebs think a 245bhp scooby will wizz all over a 172 bhp cup, us educated few know that it won't

Andy M3

BHP / TONNE @ the wheels is a good way to guess likely on raod performance. But drivers can be a world apart, and some people care less than others irrespective of your driving ability.

Still i prefer to be the under dog snapping at the heels though

chris singleton

Agreed, I'll never take unecessary risks on the road just to prove a point, some of the overtaking manoeuvres people have tried on me have been nothing short of death defying. Rather have numpties like that in front of me rather than behind

Senior_AP

Agree with all above posts - tick tock - tick tock until the educated voice of reason is shouted down by some ranting imbecile.

chris singleton

PMSL

Surely they will not persist...............





















They will and don't call me Shirley

Tim-Grove

How do Shirl

Frazer

What has that got to do with it? Obviously a well launched WRX will beat me off the line but up and going im pushing them up the road and passing them :-)

mg driver

i saw a bugeye run 15.6's all day at pod ,didnt matter what he did it just wasnt fast enough.

Senior_AP

Yep, that's the cut and dry of it.

Amazingly capable cars, but "fast" in its strictest sense?? Not on your nelly.

davyboy

I managed a 14.9 in mine

Senior_AP

Only cos you had an exhaust that sounded like a fat mans fart.

scoobyboy1

iTrader: (16)

I managed a 13.9 in a standard 04 WRX.

Senior_AP

Are you joking?

chris singleton

Best I got in my bugeye was a 13.7, but mine was far from standard. Damm thing was just too heavy - still a more than capable car though

13.9 in a standard blobeye is bloody quick, did you launch it at 9K revs

scoobyboy1

iTrader: (16)

Serious.

chris n`nic

Was it down here?

http://www.1134.org/blog/images/IMG_1118a.jpg

Chris

Senior_AP

That is FAST.

e36 M3 Evo's only manage 13.8 so how you did that I'll never know!!

sgcooby

Not from the stats ive read in several publications. The clio is slower. Renaults own figures also state this.

They are both fast so who fookin cares which one is a tiny wee bit faster. People who say ' I blew a wrx or STI off the road in my clio ' or the other way round makes me laugh. Ive seen several videos, which you can download for yourself, some website.....'shand' something or other. On there you can see standard WRX's catching EVO's and STI's but everyone knows the EVO and STI is faster but its purely down to the drivers abilities. You also see a golf and a CTR passing EVO's etc. Its more down to the drivers ability than the car, as long as the cars are reasonably similar in performance of course, which the clio and wrx are.

I wont end by saying' END OF' as its a bit childish.

sgcooby

Yep. Just checked again to make sure and the new 182 cup takes 6.9 secs to reach 60mph. The 172 will be even slower i would imagine. Couldnt find 0-100 figures on Renaults own website but ive seen them before in EVO mag and were very similar to WRX if not slower ill check again tonight.

Anyone who still feels that their clio will tear a scoob a new ars e hole please feel free to visit the renault webite yourself.

Still the clio is a nice car and pretty much identical to WRX for pace but one with PPP would easily see the clio off, doesnt matter what you clio owners think or claim to have seen.

chris n`nic

Always 0-?!?! WRX is probably a second or so quicker to 60 but to 100 they are probably pretty similar (seen them vary for the 172 Cup from high 16`s to high 17`s std) so the scoob would be off the line quicker but then the Clio would make it up by 100.

chris singleton

FPMSL

Funniest comment/picture I've read in ages, absolute class

jasonius

iTrader: (1)

How does the 182 compare to a Focus RS..?

Senior_AP

Did you go to the same school as Darryl???


WRX faster to 60 but slower to 100.

Do I have to spell it out?!?!?

OK - I shall, that means the WRX is "very" slower from, well, atleast 60-100 than the Clio. Probably more like about 30-100 in reality.

There is very little in it I know but please, please just say "ok - I accept that".

chris singleton

Don't you get sick of being right all the time

scoobyboy1

iTrader: (16)

O.K Ill come clean!

I did have a Graham Goode Backbox, but other then that it was standard, all 3 cats where still in place, standard td04 turbo etc. Cant see it making a differance.

Senior_AP

Impressive. You must have a very, very good example!!!!

TheJesus

aah yes, manufacturer figures... these are not always accurate though are they, Reno tend to play their figures down or use cars that have not been run in to probably lower insurance groupings... real world times from real people in real cars are more important. Chris and Neils Cup's are both running 14.1 SQM's... doesn't take a genius to work out where the 4x4 comes into play and where the little Clio pulls it back... most people on our club are running in the 14's and lot are almost standard and some are boggo standard lol

sgcooby

Sorry to rain on your parade but ive just checked EVO magazine and the WRX is 15.7 secs to 100 and the clio cup takes 17.7 to 100. That is their own test results so im sure they are more accurate than some punter witha stopwatch. Dont take my word for it check yourself. The EVO mag im reading is the one with the veyron on the front so not just my opinion its fact. Even renault claim the clio cup is slower than a WRX, in fact renault claim it slower than EVO so the magazines results could be classed as optimistic.

So no more nonsense please about clio's beating STI ppp's let alone WRX's.

Still fast though but dont make stuff up.

sgcooby

Do you now accept it????

You are wrong mate sorry.

Slower to 60 and even slower still to 100. You produce 1 document or publication that states otherwise as i have.

Tim-Grove

Think you are not going to know which of these two cars is more capable until they are put where performance cars should be, on the track. None of this motorway, duel carriageway, drag strip, mines faster on paper nonsense this really can only be settled on the track. And I really think that the Cup would near as damn it be neck and neck with the WRX.