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Old 27 April 2005, 06:37 PM
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Pepper sprays/Mace and CS etc are section 5 firearms, and you face prison for possession. In practice you'd probably just be fined. But use it and it IS a prison sentence.

I rather suspect that dye spray would probably fall foul of the same clause ("designed to discharge a noxious substance") if anyone took an owner to court.


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Old 28 April 2005, 01:07 PM
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So long as you can justify its presence in the car amd its not out of place, you should be fine.

Most thieves are opportunists, cowards and run away from trouble if they can
Old 28 April 2005, 02:50 PM
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How about a good sized shifter bar with a wheel nut size socket on it?

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Old 28 April 2005, 02:55 PM
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Anyone that paranoid about being car-jacked should drive round with all the doors locked, surely !
Old 28 April 2005, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MJW
Anyone that paranoid about being car-jacked should drive round with all the doors locked, surely !

Let me introduce you to my old friend, the spring-loaded centre-punch. Much easier to explain than a crowbar if stopped in the street.


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Old 28 April 2005, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Pepper sprays/Mace and CS etc are section 5 firearms, and you face prison for possession. In practice you'd probably just be fined. But use it and it IS a prison sentence.

I rather suspect that dye spray would probably fall foul of the same clause ("designed to discharge a noxious substance") if anyone took an owner to court.


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In most of mainland Europe (read civilisation) these are regarded as legitimate self defence weapons. I can also carry an extendable baton, knives and anything else I want short of a handgun (although I could apply for a permit).

Oddly enough despite this personal assault and muggings are rare in most parts of Western Europe. We don't have "happy slapping" either- otherwise it would be closely followed with a "happy knuckledusting" on my part at least.
Old 28 April 2005, 03:04 PM
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I have an 18 inch iron weights bar (with no weights on it) behind my drivers seat. If I was ever questions I would say it was a sex aid No NO I wouldnt really but its only there coz I was moving some things from my mums house over to mine and I "must have missed it" oops!!
I always lock my doors etc - habit is that - but should a stranger wish to discuss my driving habits or request an unauthorised journey in my much loved car I only need fear guns
Old 28 April 2005, 03:08 PM
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I'm interested to know how people plan to wield their baseball bats inside their cars?

Don't you realise that a large screwdriver you've been using to tighten that oh-so annoying rattle in the car is far more practical.
Old 28 April 2005, 03:10 PM
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It is perfectly legal to carry a steering lock or tyre lever, tow rope and plastic petrol can in your car.

You may find that after being beaten with a tyre lever, tied up with a tow rope and covered in petrol most car jackers will see the error of their ways!

Alternatively - as has been suggested, keep the doors locked!!
Old 28 April 2005, 03:23 PM
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A pump spray bottle filled with 99% sulphuric acid


Old 28 April 2005, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by D70
I'm interested to know how people plan to wield their baseball bats inside their cars?

Don't you realise that a large screwdriver you've been using to tighten that oh-so annoying rattle in the car is far more practical.
Nice, good point. Doesn't even have to be large, just make it a flat-blade rather than a cross-head. Resulting bleeding should give no problems identifying the ****** later, too.
Old 28 April 2005, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chaos.
A pump spray bottle filled with 99% sulphuric acid


Mmm, I think I see a slight flaw in your plan...
Old 28 April 2005, 03:30 PM
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i wouldnt want to be in a car crash with all that ****e you lot carry! sad if you kill yourself with your crowbar when your car rolls over!

its a pity the baddies doent read this.....im sure they would pack in car jacking if they new they were up against people ready and waiting with some de-icer.
Old 28 April 2005, 03:31 PM
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How about day-old defrosted fish then?
Old 28 April 2005, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
Mmm, I think I see a slight flaw in your plan...
if i caught ewe in the eye with that shat ewed b squeelin like a piggy
Old 28 April 2005, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by chaos.
if i caught ewe in the eye with that shat ewed b squeelin like a piggy
Your making the bold assumption that the probably plastic nozzle didn't melt and spray the acid all over you lap...
Old 28 April 2005, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
Don't the police recommend the Maglite's?

Swiss Army knife?
I'm a cop and we do get issued with Maglites, but under no surcumstances are we allowed to **** crims over the head with our 6 cell maglites......unfortunately!
Old 28 April 2005, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
Your making the bold assumption that the probably plastic nozzle didn't melt and spray the acid all over you lap...
plastics and glass are acid proof
Old 28 April 2005, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
I'm a cop and we do get issued with Maglites, but under no surcumstances are we allowed to **** crims over the head with our 6 cell maglites......unfortunately!
Well duhh, of course not. It would leave visible bruising
Old 28 April 2005, 04:10 PM
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When i was working as a Prison Officer we were once visited by the plod just as we were coming off duty one night and they made all of us put our batons in the boots of our cars before we drove off, as they pointed out that once off prison property we were all breaking the law by carrying an offensive weapon if it was found in the driving area of the car!!!! What a load of B*ll*x!!

I pulled up 100 yards down the road and took mine back out of the boot and put it on the seat at the side of me as per usual. *****ng busy body coppers with nothing else better to do!!

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Old 28 April 2005, 04:17 PM
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A 4 Cell Maglite fits nicely between the passenger seat and the centre console, had mine there for 3 years when I had my Scoob and no amount of twisties would shift it!

Easily within reach when buckled into the drivers seat and small enough to swing in the car.

I was followed once when I had my Scoob, but knowing the local area and location of the police station was the best thing in that situation Still had the maglite on my lap though!
Old 28 April 2005, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chaos.
plastics and glass are acid proof
'fraid not, chap. It's not as simple as that. I wouldn't keep concentrated sulphuric acid in a plastic bottle. However -- nice train of thought. You could probably keep more dilute solutions of weaker acid in plastic for a while. Hell... even vinegar in the eyes would sting, I guess.
Old 28 April 2005, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fatman
'fraid not, chap. It's not as simple as that. I wouldn't keep concentrated sulphuric acid in a plastic bottle. However -- nice train of thought. You could probably keep more dilute solutions of weaker acid in plastic for a while. Hell... even vinegar in the eyes would sting, I guess.
Like I said earlier, acidic alloy wheel cleaner. Nasty!
Old 28 April 2005, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gav1
I pulled up 100 yards down the road and took mine back out of the boot and put it on the seat at the side of me as per usual. *****ng busy body coppers with nothing else better to do!!

Gav.
why? in case you got car jacked that night?

you sound a little over cautious!
Old 28 April 2005, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
why? in case you got car jacked that night?

you sound a little over cautious!
No, because thats where i always used to throw it when i got into the car to drive home. It's quite uncomfortable to make a 45 min drive with an extendable baton sticking in your groin!!

Suppose i took it back out of the boot as a point of principle because the interfering coppers had annoyed me!
Old 28 April 2005, 08:22 PM
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i got arrested and my baseball bat was taken off me, the coper thrashed my car home, i said i would put up a hefty fight if they left it there in the middle of the city centre over night ,so he "offerd" to drive it home for me.

ended up getting another caution or sumthing (was a while back now)

ive scince replaced it with a telescopic wheel brace which does not seam to be telescopic anymore and has the biggest and heaviest 17/19mm double socket on the end of it i could find.
Old 28 April 2005, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
why? in case you got car jacked that night?

you sound a little over cautious!
ive had atempts to hijack me twice now, first time was nasty and i had a few house bricks to the head, second time was sum numpty name dropping sumbody else who i had never heard off "im such and such give me your ****en car, blahh blahh" told him to **** right off and pulled away, did research into the name, nasty persons name, it was not the "nasty person" as it turned out i knew his nephew and he did sum checks for me


2 many wannabe rudebwhooys out on the streets these days IMO
Old 28 April 2005, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Timmins
Like I said earlier, acidic alloy wheel cleaner. Nasty!
i have sum trade stuff that your supposed to dilute down, that stuff takes your breath away and turns brakedust green, it also removes concrete and takes a layer of brickwork away

that stuff would disfigure you for life!
Old 28 April 2005, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
i have sum trade stuff that your supposed to dilute down, that stuff takes your breath away and turns brakedust green, it also removes concrete and takes a layer of brickwork away

that stuff would disfigure you for life!
Sounds like hydroflouric acid. And the word you are looking for is "kill" - it leaches calcium out of the bones and wrecks the electrolyte balance in the body.


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Old 28 April 2005, 11:28 PM
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Once watched in amazement when a joiner pulled out a massive bloody nail gun and put one through the window of some guys that were threatening him. Dont know whether it was road rage or a car jacking........whatever it was they bloody **** themselves and ran leaving the car in the middle of the road.

Their faces were absolute pictures. Bet mine was too....................


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