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Old 16 March 2005, 04:54 PM
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Pete - you don't really believe all that guff - no buy-a-vote promises

Did you see a different budget?????

They are obviously panicking now - The tories have them on the run - The budget was cobbled together to try and steal some of the tory thunder (£200.00 council tax rebate for pensioners - where did they get that idea? - erm...from the tories last week )
What was the bit about a FREE NHS? I missed the line before that - Did he say he was abolishing script charges?
Old 16 March 2005, 04:57 PM
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You can huff,

You can puff,

Labour will still be there when you've had enough!

All this moaning and crying and blubbing is totally pointless - Labour will win the election .......... get used to it - or leave the country!

Pete
Old 16 March 2005, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I doubt I am alone ...... as they are clear by a mile to win the election!
I would've agreed with this statement until recently, but now Im not so sure. Looking at other forums for example, here we see 65% plan to vote Tory, with Labour coming in 3rd with only 15%.
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/for...=22&t=6981&st=

Even comments on the pro-Labour BBC website show the vast majority are pretty pis$ed off with the budget:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4353185.stm

Maybe Labour wont win!!!!! Dole-scroungers, immigrants and criminals must be quaking in their boots!!
Old 16 March 2005, 05:04 PM
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matters not a jot to me TBTO - they are all equally inefficient liars, but it just bugs me that they can spout this crap and people believe it. On the other hand, if I give advice, it has to be correct, fair, clearly worded and in the best interest of the client, otherwise I get shafted by the FSA. I would like to see the FSA have a run through of some of the promises and forecasts made by TB and GB in the past 8 years.

I can see it now
"If you feel you have been missold a government, please call oh ate hundred compo compo compo - we will make sure they reimburse you for all your money they have wasted"
Old 16 March 2005, 05:10 PM
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"longest period of economic growth since records began in 1701"

A statistic like that is sooo dodgy I'm surprised it doesn't get everybody's alarm bells ringing. There is clearly some serious distortion of the economy going on for a figure like that to be valid.
Old 16 March 2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I doubt I am alone ...... as they are clear by a mile to win the election!

Pete
I think you will find that very few of the polls support your ignorant and biased opinion.

Clearly been out in the sun too long.
Old 16 March 2005, 05:20 PM
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I think it was something like 50 consecutive quarters of growth, during which time manufacturing has lost 1 million jobs, so the jobless totals and the growth figures have been shored up by increasing taxes and increasing public borrowing, followed by increased spending onpublic services. There will come a point where this cannot continue, and when we hit that point it will take years and years to recover.
That point will come when public borrowing hits 40% of GPD, which isn't too far away, with manufacturing on the decline and borrowing on the increase
Old 16 March 2005, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
- or leave the country!

Pete
I'd love to, the UK is a **** hole thanks to Labour. Just can't afford to leave.
Old 16 March 2005, 08:26 PM
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People who go on about manufacturing job losses need to realise that it's becoming impossible to compete with countries that can manufacture identical goods but have wages of £1/hour, and with none of the employment protection and benefits we have in this country.

The move over to a primarily service, hi-tech and knowledge based economy is not only one of the reasons we're doing comparitively well compared to many other EU countries, but is a long term necessity if we're going to keep the edge and continue to enjoy good standards of living.

As to the government, yes it has its faults, but the strength of the economy and opportunities available speak for themselves. Even if they didn't it would be difficult to see anyone but Labour winning the general election as there is just no credible opposition. If Ken Clarke had made party leader a few years ago the Tories may have had a chance, but there were too many internal divisions and too much in-fighting for it to happen. He would have drawn voters to the party. People such as Howard or IDS just scare them away.

Gary.
Old 16 March 2005, 10:48 PM
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ps lewis , sausage sausage sausage, you get me man, im with you...
Old 17 March 2005, 09:33 AM
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You can always give the impression that things look good on the face of it by borrowing money and throwing it about.

Trouble is, there comes a time when it has to be paid back-like after the election!

Thats when it will really start to hurt if the con succeeds!

Les
Old 17 March 2005, 11:53 AM
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Funny how PSL shuts up when the IMF and government borrowing is brought into the discussion.

Give the lie to all his strange pronouncements.

Les
Old 17 March 2005, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
You can always give the impression that things look good on the face of it by borrowing money and throwing it about.
I have loads of clients who live by this mantra - They are all fooked long term
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