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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Ah playing the personal insult card eh? I have plenty of arguements, sadly its pointlesss with the likes of you as you have some sort of agenda that's at odds with reality.

*Intrest* rates are not just to do with mortgage repayments. Mortgages are just one part of a multi complex part of what interest rates are about. In fact *intrest* rates are no longer politically determined due to one of the first acts of the Labour government, so hopefully the ERM debacle and the scandal surrounding it will not be repeated.


For the record I own two houses with low mortgages and a dpipe scoobysport with Blitz nur spec R is less than £1000, so not much % of my disposable goes into loud exhausts.

I asked a question one one of my threads you trolled on, what Impreza do you own? I cannot seem to see an answer.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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a) you don't know that it is the truth, you only suspect that it is.
b) the "fact" you've stated aren't the problem (you're entitled to your opinion), what is insulting is the fact that you basically call everyone who does not share you opinion a moron.

It's very subjective as to who the "I don't know what I'm talking about brigade" actually are. Labour supporters would level that at you, and you level it at them. What people need to do is to step back and take a good long hard look at the policies (and ability of the politicians) offered by the available parties and try and form a balanced opinion. That's what I'm doing and so far, have seen massive alarm bells for voting in any of them....

So if we follow your logic, we should also get rid of car registration documents as they can trace cars to owners, and unfairly allow them to be prosecuted when fraud is comitted? It's the same thing, just with horses instead...
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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It is interesting how you always bring up the race card.

Because Mr Howard is Jewish, does that mean we are unable to criticise him at all? How convenient for you!

I think it is you and the Tories that are using race to create issues where there are none. Desperate times for such an unelectable bunch of losers.

Shame really, I would love to see position where there was a credible alternative to the standing govt., but hey ho.......

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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wait and see


So you're not going to get on your soap box and preach against Labour, just go around in a teepee looking into the future
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by camk
To get into the country legally you need a passport. We should also be able to work on more than 1 issue at a time. However I find your post extremely offensive , in that you are suggesting killing people because they are different from you.
The law is there to protect horses from export as food when they were raised as pets. Despite not being a huge animal lover or a horse owner I can sympathise with horse owners who would find it disturbing that an old pet ended up in the food chain.
Last time I looked the UK was part of Europe and had fair representation in Europe so they are part of any decision process.
P.S. The correct English spelling is Illegal.....
You are indeed correct about legaly entering the UK, but I was referring to the countless number of illegal immigrants that we have. It seems that as usual the government is far more interested in targeting an easy option, ie, horse owners who on the whole are well to do law abiding citizens, rather than targeting the harder and in my opinion the more important problem of illegals.

My jibe at killing Europeans was just that, a jibe and I would suggest that you invest in a sense of humour, just as much as I should invest in a spell checker.

I have however noticed that if you travel to the continet, you will see that all these beauracratic Eurpean rules that Belgium dreams up, are largely ignored by our European counterparts, and it is just us and this bloody country that seems to adhere to them. Says quite alot for European union and abiding by the law dont you think?

As to the horsey passports, I thought that they where there to stop drugged meat entering the food chain, and not to stop pet lovers horses ending up on the plate of some French man .

Whatever, its just yet another bloody law that this country has adopted and will police at whatever the cost.
Soon you wont be able to take a dump without some Eurocrat popping his head up to tell you that your ****e is too sticky, too small/large etc etc.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555


So you're not going to get on your soap box and preach against Labour, just go around in a teepee looking into the future
Crow away. It's fools like you that stand to lose the most in the Third Term.

You won't be smirking so much when your mods are banned, you are not allowed to do any maintenance on your own vehicle, road charging is introduced for all roads at all times, insurance is charged based on road use etc etc...

There are none so blind as those who cannot see.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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Your arguments may have a shred of credibility if there was the slightest chance of the Tories reversing these laws if they got to power. But we both know they won't, will they?

The Tories will be just as glad to fleece us as Labour are, but will hide behind "we inherited this situation", just like Labour did in 1997.

There are none so blind as those who cannot see.
would seem to apply to you as well.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
It is interesting how you always bring up the race card.

Because Mr Howard is Jewish, does that mean we are unable to criticise him at all? How convenient for you!
Wasn't me that drew attention to Howards race.

I think it is you and the Tories that are using race to create issues where there are none. Desperate times for such an unelectable bunch of losers.

Shame really, I would love to see position where there was a credible alternative to the standing govt., but hey ho.......

Geezer
Strange how the 'unelectable bunch of losers' are now only 3% behind Labour.


http://www.politics.co.uk/party-politics/conservative-party/conservatives-cut-into-labours-lead-$13011017.htm


But, hey ho.... you know best.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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If Labour are a bunch of liars, cheats and full of spin and they are bad for the country, it says a lot for the Tory party that they are STILL behind in the polls.

Look into your ball and tell us how many seats the Tories will win in the next general election.

BTW I still notice you wont tell me what your impreza is ....................
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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But Mr Howards background is quite relevant to the Torie stance on immigration. You play the race card as soon as the 'J' word is used. It's pathetic.

You can read all the polls you want, they have little bearing on how people will vote.

As has already been said, this will be an election of who they think will do the least damage, and at present, the Tories will not be that party.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 555wrx
You are indeed correct about legaly entering the UK, but I was referring to the countless number of illegal immigrants that we have. It seems that as usual the government is far more interested in targeting an easy option, ie, horse owners who on the whole are well to do law abiding citizens, rather than targeting the harder and in my opinion the more important problem of illegals.

My jibe at killing Europeans was just that, a jibe and I would suggest that you invest in a sense of humour, just as much as I should invest in a spell checker.

I have however noticed that if you travel to the continet, you will see that all these beauracratic Eurpean rules that Belgium dreams up, are largely ignored by our European counterparts, and it is just us and this bloody country that seems to adhere to them. Says quite alot for European union and abiding by the law dont you think?

As to the horsey passports, I thought that they where there to stop drugged meat entering the food chain, and not to stop pet lovers horses ending up on the plate of some French man .

Whatever, its just yet another bloody law that this country has adopted and will police at whatever the cost.
Soon you wont be able to take a dump without some Eurocrat popping his head up to tell you that your ****e is too sticky, too small/large etc etc.
Say a 'jibe' often enough and it becomes normal. , so why accept it(just ask Big Ron). BTW they do get a say in your ****, 3 years ago they stopped local authorities dumping it raw all around our coast....doesn't seem like a bad idea to me.
Illegal immigrants and 'other' issues e.g. Health, educashun(sic) are just that, other issues. You cannot shout down changes based on what you perceive as a problem elsewhere. I suggest you stop reading the Sun and make your own mind up on what the issues are for you personally in your everyday life.
Illegal immigrants are just one issue affecting the UK, its a much smaller issue than the gutter press would lead you to believe.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Going back to the original post then, we have 5 horses, only 2 have passports. i understand the thinking behind making them law, but the people who deal in black market horse trading wont be the people getting passports. They said that everyone that owned a gun had to be licensed but that aint working either is it???
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