gso

Scooby ownership, low annual mileage, no risk of theft.... sounds like a no brainer

Bartop

Just so I'm clear, are you thinking of getting a WRX or an Sti ?

147_TS

WRX... i cannot afford STi, expensive to buy and even more expensive to run

Bartop

How much is a standard WRX then in your country ? I would have thought with all the extras you had there that you were in danger of costing more than an Sti anyways..

Are Sti's really that more expensive to run ? In all the discussions I've seen on this BB about WRX vs Sti I can honestly say that running costs have never featured highly. The debates centre around looks / usability / potential to upgrade etc..

147_TS

"empty" STi with metallic paint costs £29.900

fully loaded WRX with all possible optional stuff costs £23.600 (base WRX is for about £21.000)

147_TS

oh and forgot, 99RON fuel is for 66p/litre

Bartop

In the uk we can get the prodrive performance kit 'PPP' which takes the WRX up to approx same performance as the standard Sti and still keeps the Subaru warranty. Do you have such a thing ? If so a WRX with PPP (like mine) or equiv is a real Golf killer imo

147_TS

hmmm, never heard of anyone with PPP kit here... must ask the dealer but i doubt its possible to get it here... probably the only way how to get it is to bring it from UK by myself, or maybe they will have it in Germany or Austria... but good point!

Brendan Hughes

Careful - no point in getting PPP if your national (regional?) dealers don't recognise it - plenty of cheaper ways to get extra power and invalidate the warranty

Bartop

Brendans right - my main point though was that the WRX is gagging to be modded, it's actually a much better all round car with PPP or equiv, better low down torque , more power all through the range etc (plus the releasing of that fantastic flat four burble sound)

Jim_B

iTrader: (1)

If fuel is that cheap, get the WRX for sure.

I cant understand how a hatchback at £20K can ever be considered good value compared to the WRX.

Brendan Hughes

BTW, in Portugal when I looked they didn't offer the PPP as an upgrade but they offered a "WRX PPP" which had upgraded ECU, brakes, spoiler and suspension IIRC for about 3k more. So it might come in different guises. You can also ask Prodrive directly, and they might tell you "not now but we're working on type approval for that country" or summat - Nick Wadeson v. helpful on here when I asked about Portugal.

alwong

I had an 01 WRX in standard form and the peformance in the real world won't be that different to the new 200bhp Golf GTI!! The scoob may be quicker to 60mph but not much in it to 100mph. You try burning off one while in motion. I was quicker in motion than the Golf 1.8 Turbo (150bhp) but not that much quicker.

Rokerlad

I like the new Golf GTi but only with the optional 18 inch rims and DSG box with Multi function steering wheel. The cloth on the seats looks terrible so leather would have to be factored in , along with metallic paint making it very pricey for a hatchback. The bog standard GTi just isn't special enough. I personally would wait until the Audi S3 FSI variant comes out or the BMW 1 series sporty models come out. MKIV Golf GTis have terrible residuals and this will probably carry over to the new model in 2 / 3 yrs time.

notsofurious

As you get snow and your fuel is cheap then no contest, the WRX wins hands down. No point in having 200 bhp through the front wheels on snow...the WRX is after all a road going rally car, perfect for snowy conditions. The Golf Gti is an excelent car but believe me, it will be as common as sh*t soon, just like Mini's are now.

147_TS

sorry all Scooby fans but i decided not to buy WRX and i definitely banished GTi from my mind... i fell in love with the new Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 V6 AWD, man that car is awesome... got all-wheel-drive, great sounding and performing V6 and perfect styling

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

You need to now go to the tread about depreciation and how much you lost on a car

Tony

dba

a Golg GT Pd TDi will batter a Scoob through the gears,at least 60-65 in sixth anyway

147_TS

nah, i dont mind depreciation.... i was always "Alfa positive" nobody buys Alfa with his head, but with his hearth i just started to think about scooby cuz of turbo and AWD but now things have changed

chrisp

Yep cant do 65mph in reverse

Not that I have tried

mpr

Is that cus you spend all your time in front of your fire, setting light to your cash




Says the depreciation-proof scooby owner

punkie

Mate - Drive the Golf and then the Scoob.

You'll be hooked.....and it won't be on the Golf !

dba

147-TS

last 4 cars for me

147,Impreza,Saab Turbo,Golf Gt TDi

my opinion? you dont buy an Alfa with your heart,you buy one with shares in an oil refinery

147_TS

hmm, cannot agree with this, got mine for 4 years now and its absolutely flawless, maybe you was unlucky and bought a "Friday-made car"

dba

I used a ltr of oil every 750 miles! the annual oil cost was more than my insurance!

jjones

aye, you will need a hearth for all that money you have burnt

alwong

Hope you enjoy!

147_TS

**** it... i found out that the estimated price for well-equipped Brera 3.2 V6 Q4 would be around £40.000 for that price i can have STi tuned to 300+bhp


so back to the Scooby !!!

but i will probably wait for the new MY06, kinda like the new styling (except of the tail-lights)

scoobydooooo

i don't know how much you thought the alfa was going to be ???

147_TS

maybe about 30-33000, definitely not 40000