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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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All I can say is that i'm gutted, the engine needs to come out for a rebuild.

If anybody wants to make me an offer for the car as is, feel free, I know what it owes me failing that it will just sit at Barretts until I feel like having another go, the spec of the car is as follows.

I wont be splitting the car this time as there's no rush to get it of the drive as its parked at barretts.

UK 98 reddish blue 70940
Prodrive alcon brakes
Prodrive suspension
Prodrive quick shift linkage
Piaa driving Lights
Full decatted exhaust
Megan headers wrapped
TD05 FE turbo new covered the 80 odd miles mapping
Uk98 heads fully overhauled
EJ22t CDB
RC uprated oil pump
GGR cam belt
Modified fuel rails
Braided fuel lines with -6 connectors
Sx pressure regulator
In line fuel gauge
New FMIC covered mapping miles
Walbro fuel pump
Prodrive inlet pipe
Modified oil breather system
Oil catch tank
Sti7 wheels with brand new tyres 215/45
Centre pod and boost, oil pressure, oil temp gauges
Link ecu
Lambda link
Knock link
Rear lower strut brace
Sti radiator cap
5.1KG arrows flywheel
Lateral performance organic clutch covered mapping miles

The car cost me £4700, I have spent £4209 on parts and the bill last Friday was £40 short of £3000

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Oh ****! Sorry to hear that Bryan
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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That's a bitter pill.

Many on here will feel for you!
Try asking on here for a short block or even another engine.

Good luck.

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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What's the damage?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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1 bent rod and what ever they find when it's taken apart
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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Oh Bryan that's a killer, after all the hard work.

Anything I can do other than offer money (As I don't have any) let me know

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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**** what a bummer...deffo a bent rod?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim W
**** what a bummer...deffo a bent rod?
deffo a bent rod
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Stock Rod I take it? Maybe justification for a nice set of aftermarket rods and pistons?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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**** me that's a $hitter!!! Sorry to hear that fella

If it'll help (even a little) I would buy the FMIC off you? Let me know.

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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Have a used short motor, if that's any help.

Bryan my advice would be to hold fire for the moment, don't sell up. If I can help give me a shout.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark A
Have a used short motor, if that's any help.

Bryan my advice would be to hold fire for the moment, don't sell up. If I can help give me a shout.

Mark
Thanks for the offer Mark, I think I'm gonna take some time out and then rebuild what I've got, just need to convince the mrs that it will work this time....how many times have I said that...
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Dare I say it may be time for a 2.5?

Fully understand the Wife angle.

Been suffering motorsport stuff now for 30 years; they get hardened to it....honest.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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OMG, oh no It's not nice at all to see a project got t1ts up like this after all the hard work. Any of the project guys will know how much hard work it takes to get to this stage and that is just demoralising in the extreme. Take a breather and come back to it later, maybe with a 2.5 bottom end as Graham suggests. You’ve gone to far to give up now.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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You might be able to persuade Powerstation to sell you one of the Sti 9 2.0 short engines for less money than a 2.5 put that in for now and rebuild the 2.2 short engine at your leisure...maybe into a strong 2.33
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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So gutted for you IIRC this isn't the 1st engine thats gone on you either?

I can so understand why the missus doesn't want you throwing more money at a subaru, or any car for that matter

Considering the price of a 2.5 (or an even cheaper STI8/9 from PS) short block, you could swap one of these in, then recover some costs by selling the 2.2 CDB on?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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lol for some reason it took me 30 mins to write that post, I never saw Floyd's and Tim's posts
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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US 2.5 about £900 excluding shipping,import & VAT or £400 for a set of Pauter rods. I think the idea of selling your 2.2 CDB might be an idea.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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A short engine from PS was around 900 quid all in...
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Double post

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Have the injectors been checked / tested since to see whether it was injector(s) stuck open or an injector / rail seal issue?

I assume it must be injector as the injector to rail seal was very good before engine was started for first time as fuel pressure remained after pump priming.. unlikely for seal to then fail etc.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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What would cause a injector to fail? And would you notice this while driving, becoming slightly paranoid
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Presumeably the injector mechanically seized 'open' hence the massive flood of fuel or the ecu told that injector to hold open for an 'infinite' time?

If the electrical signal is broken then the injector fails closed (don't they?)

Hope you are working hard on the car Mark!

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Why would a faulty injector lead to a bent rod???? genuine question or have i missed something??
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Reading the posts before, the cylinder filled with fuel and this was then compressed on the up stroke. Basic physics - liquids can not be compressed hence bent the rod.

Mark (I'm sure Einstein could explain it better)
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark A
Reading the posts before, the cylinder filled with fuel and this was then compressed on the up stroke. Basic physics - liquids can not be compressed hence bent the rod.

Mark (I'm sure Einstein could explain it better)
Cheers got you now. So i assume if a car was running really rich the same could happen???
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bats-Wrx
Cheers got you now. So i assume if a car was running really rich the same could happen???
no.. only if it was stuck open injector or a leak between injector and fuel rail when the engine was off all the fuel in the fuel rail at 3bar fuel pressure would be sprayed into the cylinder of the one with the stuck open injector.. if it happened to be on the compression stroke at the time and so the exhaust valves shut the cylinder fills with fuel.. you then start the car and the piston goes up and cannot shift / compress the fuel and no where for it to go as the inlet valves are now shut too so the rod bends.

If a car were running really rich then it would only be spraying fuel when the engine was running, not when switched off.. therefore it is unlikely to cause the same problem as there would not be enough fuel in one compression stroke to fill the cylinder enough and it would then get pushed out the exhaust on the exhaust stroke etc..
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Thanks for clearing that up
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Simon et al

Just how much fuel could get into the cylinder, when the fuel system is at over 3 bar when switched off, if an injector was stuck open?

I estimate a few 10's of mls at most, which should be unlikely to fill the compression volume / squish area etc. and if it was compressed only to a few hundred psi ... so more likely to blow a head gasket than bend a rod?

And anyway as the valves open / close on each cycle, wouldn't some / most of the fuel be sent out the valve holes as they opened if they were pressurised?
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