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Old 19 December 2004, 12:34 AM
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"I wouldn't watch Sky at gunpoint. "


Bet you would

Old 19 December 2004, 12:47 AM
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How anyone here can say Sky is a rip off while the TV license is OK is beyond me. If you have anything capable of receiving a TV signal you have to pay the telly tax to our beloved BBC whereas if you don't like Sky guess what? Yes, that's right you don't have to have it - now tell me which one is the rip off?

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Old 19 December 2004, 01:33 AM
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Who wants adverts on BBC?

No one, so stop ******* moaning.
Old 19 December 2004, 02:07 AM
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An episode of The Simpson in America seems to consist of:

adverts, Opening Titles, More adverts, 5 mins of Simpsons, adverts, 5 mins of simpsons, adverts, 5 minsutes of simpsons, adverts, 5 mins of Simpsons, adverts, closing titles, adverts. No wonder it's only 20 mins long when they show it on BBC2
Old 19 December 2004, 02:22 AM
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wouldn't mine the TV licence if you could opt out. The channel that 'we' watch most is CBeebies on freeview. Other than that I reckon the beeb fleeces me for about a pound a minute for watchable stuff
Old 19 December 2004, 08:26 AM
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In the US an episode of 24 (the TV show that runs in real time) takes 60mins to watch including the adverts. When the very same episode is watched on DVD or BBC2 (without adverts) it's only 42 minutes long. That shows how much advertising there is on US TV

If you watch an hour of BBC TV a day you're paying about 30p an hour to watch. You're also paying 30p to avoid 15 minutes of advertising (using US model as an example) or put another way nearly 4 days of your life per year watching adverts!
Old 19 December 2004, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
Who wants adverts on BBC?

No one, so stop ******* moaning.
If you look a bit closer , there are plenty of adverts on BBC ......

for local radio , other programmes etc etc etc
Old 19 December 2004, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
Who wants adverts on BBC?

No one, so stop ******* moaning.
You are missing the point. I don't care whether there are adverts or not on the BBC as I very rarely ever watch it. The problem is that no matter how much or how little I watch it I still have to pay for it (short of getting rid of any TV related apparatus I might own of course).

Now why don't I watch it? Mainly because the programmes they churn out are all aimed at the 'soap opera generation' i.e. about as intellectually challenging as a Spice Girls song and any current affairs programming they undertake is now so heavily biased as to be unwatchable.

The BBC used to stand for quality, but not anymore. Of course when all your funding comes from what is essentially a compulsory tax you don't need to make decent TV/radio programmes do you?

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Old 19 December 2004, 11:33 AM
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And you still pay Road Tax on your car even if you only do 10 miles a year.

I've grown up with the Beeb and yes you can argue about deteriorating quality - my personal gripe is the loss of sports to Sky but across the channels is a terrific variety of programmes to suit most tastes. As said in this thread compared with most overseas TV there is no comparison. DL
Old 19 December 2004, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kbsub
If you look a bit closer , there are plenty of adverts on BBC ......

for local radio , other programmes etc etc etc
I dont class 2 x 30 seconds of adverts, per hour, for other BBC progs as commerical advertising, which is normally 15 mins per hour every hour.
Old 19 December 2004, 12:12 PM
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I quite like the ads on the Beeb now as it means you can go and have a pee or get another beer just like you can on ITV
Old 19 December 2004, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
You are missing the point. I don't care whether there are adverts or not on the BBC as I very rarely ever watch it. The problem is that no matter how much or how little I watch it I still have to pay for it (short of getting rid of any TV related apparatus I might own of course).

Now why don't I watch it? Mainly because the programmes they churn out are all aimed at the 'soap opera generation' i.e. about as intellectually challenging as a Spice Girls song and any current affairs programming they undertake is now so heavily biased as to be unwatchable.

The BBC used to stand for quality, but not anymore. Of course when all your funding comes from what is essentially a compulsory tax you don't need to make decent TV/radio programmes do you?

Regards,

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Fully understand the point.

As per above, you do 5 miles on the road you pay 6 months road tax at least. There are many things in life we have to pay for which we do not have a choice.

So, BBC's nature progs, undercover reporting (Trains and the Police one, to mention two) are of no interest?

My point is most people who are moaning about spending a "pint of beer" a week for a TV licence, would be one of the first to start moaning if the beeb started to show 15 mins of adverts, per hour to fund itself.
Old 19 December 2004, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
As per above, you do 5 miles on the road you pay 6 months road tax at least.
Yes, but if next to that road there was an alternative that was funded by advertising hoardings grouped every 5 miles or so then I would use that road instead.

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P.S. I have Discovery Channel for my documentaries thanks - there are even some on there aimed at those of us with an IQ above that of an Eastenders fan
Old 19 December 2004, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Yes, but if next to that road there was an alternative that was funded by advertising hoardings grouped every 5 miles or so then I would use that road instead.
Adverts are banned from within sight of dual / motorways for a very good reason.


Originally Posted by tiggers
P.S. I have Discovery Channel for my documentaries thanks - there are even some on there aimed at those of us with an IQ above that of an Eastenders fan
OOOoooo.....handbags
"Spy in the herd" and "Bears in the woods" both a load of low IQ rubbish then?
Old 19 December 2004, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
Adverts are banned from within sight of dual / motorways for a very good reason.
Err... really ... well why are they next to every motorway I drive on then?

Anyway your point bears no relevance to my argument and as for your gesticulating emoticon - what else would one expect from someone who watches BBC programmes

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Old 19 December 2004, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Err... really ... well why are they next to every motorway I drive on then?
In the UK, they are illegal.


Originally Posted by tiggers
Anyway your point bears no relevance to my argument and as for your gesticulating emoticon - what else would one expect from someone who watches BBC programmes

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They are two very good progs IMHO. I guess you would have missed them as you do not watch BBC, you would not lower yourself, would you?
Old 19 December 2004, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
They are two very good progs IMHO. I guess you would have missed them as you do not watch BBC, you would not lower yourself, would you?
Two among so many - guess they had to strike it lucky some time

Cheers,

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Old 19 December 2004, 11:39 PM
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we are very lucky to have the bbc.it IS the best broadcasting company IN THE WORLD.it is widely respected around the world as a fair,balanced and quality provider..just ask all those people around the world who dont have access to government free interference broadcasting.the bbc aint just a company there to serve pap to morons..sky and itv do that.the world service,radio as well as political,cultural and minority tastes are catered for.if u want pap watch sky and its 5min advert breaksthe bbc exists to inform educate and entertain..dont knock it..watch american or aussie tv to see wot i mean!!!!
Old 19 December 2004, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by a1oku
just ask all those people around the world who dont have access to government free interference broadcasting.
Please tell me you're kidding right?
Old 19 December 2004, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
i have had two ops on the NHS in the last 2 years and thousands of pounds of follow up treatment, my wife has had 3 kids on the NHS and the only cost was a bit extra for a private room while she was there.......i would estimate ££££'s of cost.

i also listened to R1 this morning......so im pretty happy.
I think that the BBC and NHS are great value for money - happy customer of both

Council tax on the other hand........
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