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Originally Posted by popeye
Then the jury rises and finds you guilty of the following crimes:
- Setting yourself up as the resident forum gob-****e whilst not being in posession of a reasoning capability.
- Making far too many posts instead of trying to develop a social circle of friends.
- Being a mardy-****.
I sentence you to 5 years of reading your own rubbish.
Dismissed.
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Blimey, you lot are easily entertained. Right here's a reply -
Hardly. I have a job of work to do, that’s why there are pauses between posts. I can only post when I have the time, unlike some lamers who sit in their bedrooms at 1:15 AM ranting away. But I’ll humour you a little longer
Wrong again (like you are about everything as far as I can see). Everything I posted were claims made by another similar trolling no mates like you, who constantly boasted about his imaginary sexual prowess. I thought you might be one and the same. (I’m still not 100% convinced you aren’t ) I’ll only get ‘off my high horse’ when you learn some civil behaviour. ROTFL
Are you? Can you? I don’t think you can, can you…..
Have you? (yawn). Shame any ‘good points’ you may have made (and I’ll need to take your word for it) are lost in the sea of vindictive bile that spews forth from your deranged mind.
Two completely separate issues as far as I’m concerned.
That’s humorous is it? I see Now who’s back peddling? With a sense of ‘humour’ like that you would probably find kicking the sh*t out puppies fun too?
It’s called the FACTS. The FACT that you show no sympathy at all for these people demonstrates your complete lack of morals and the spiteful nature of your personality.
Miners’ Strike. Plenty of evidence. Before your time no doubt.
As if a hypocrite like you is in any position to make such a judgement. lol.
As I said before, if I fail to respond it usually means I don’t think the poster is worthy of a reply. Almost certainly would have been the reason in your case.
Thanks for the advice. But I think I’ll stick to listening to people who know something about anything.
Have nice life.
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Originally Posted by popeye
Don't make me laugh. This board is your entire life. You saw it first thing this morning but it's taken you all this time to cobble this reply together. 5000+ posts and you're sighing about having to make another. Lol!
Originally Posted by popeye
You've been slagging me by making up some crud about my job, girlfriend and personal habits, I've called you some playground names. What's worse? Get off your high horse FFS.
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Oh dear, you appear to have just fallen off it anyway. Not bothered by it my ****. I'm 10,000 miles away and I can hear you sobbing from here.
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Seriously, can you read? I've outlined time and time again why I think fox hunting should be banned, and it's got f*ck all to do with just thinking foxes are small furry animals. I'm beggining to think you really are just a rent-a-quote loudmouth that can't follow a debate.
Here's a quick question for you. Take your time if it's too difficult.
Here's a quick question for you. Take your time if it's too difficult.
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These are two entirely contradictory viewpoints. Either the government does something about animal cruelty, or it stands by and lets everyone get on with it. The "civil liberties" card is one of your favourite ones to play in favour of hunting, and here you are bleating that the government doesn't do enough to influence the behaviour of society twoards animals. Which one of these statements represents your opinion, or can you not remember what you're on about from one post to the next?
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Yes that's right. I was being entirely serious when I sugested they should be batoned, as well as when I suggested they should be pushed off a cliff. Jesus H Christ. Humour's not really your thing is it?
That’s humorous is it? I see Now who’s back peddling? With a sense of ‘humour’ like that you would probably find kicking the sh*t out puppies fun too?
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Listen to you! "destruction of their livelihoods"...."mass social engineering"
You're like some random horrible cliche generating machine. Are you just cut and pasting these silly phrases from uttercrap.com?
You're like some random horrible cliche generating machine. Are you just cut and pasting these silly phrases from uttercrap.com?
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*What* past events? And where's your evidence for this?
Originally Posted by popeye
Come down off the moral high ground will you. You don't belong up there with your silly stuff like this:
Originally Posted by popeye
I asked you to discuss this long before this turned nasty. You couldn't do it. For someone who hangs around this forum making post after political post, you seemed unusually reticent to engage me in a debate.
Originally Posted by popeye
Try reading the posts again - stop floundering and debate the specific points in future. Plenty of people have understood them and debated them. If you haven't got the mental capacity to do so, that's not my problem. "Tree hugging ranting...". Just listen to yourself. Can you possibly be any more corny?
Have nice life.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Thanks for that unbiased bit of moderation.
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You still here - I bet you're creaming your pants. how sad...
Anyway… it looks like I missed a bit:
What jury would that be then? The imaginary one in your fevered brain I suppose?
How could I possibly compete with you for that title?
Ditto – 1:15 in the morning boy…
Don’t know what that means. I’m sure really funny though
Unfortunately, that’s the sentence you’ll have to suffer.
UB
Anyway… it looks like I missed a bit:
Then the jury rises and finds you guilty of the following crimes:
Setting yourself up as the resident forum gob-****e whilst not being in posession of a reasoning capability.
Making far too many posts instead of trying to develop a social circle of friends.
Being a mardy-****.
I sentence you to 5 years of reading your own rubbish.
UB
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Hmm, I feel a break from my office (overlooking the alps) coming on. I may take a saunter down south with a couple of young lovelees
May even drive at 3546.4mph on the way there
May even drive at 3546.4mph on the way there
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UB,
Whilst you have responded in detail to every line of popeye's post, you have, without exception, failed to produce any evidence to substantiate the "facts" you refer to, failed to address any of the clearly contradictory statements in your own argument and failed to adress any of the other questions raised in direct relation to the reasoning behind your beliefs resorting to either:
Re-stating your own far from unbiased opinions;
accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being a troll, a hypocrite, or numerous other rather inane derogatory comments; or
Stating that you will not lower yourself to respond.
Now, whilst I would agree that we are all entitled to hold opinion without reasoning, when one continues to post this psuedo political b/s again and again there comes a time when one's views will be called into question and one would require to address those questions to retain the respect of the community.
Certainly if I was the one so prolifically posting on a particular subject I would certainly make every effort to justify my position to retain some self respect.
Alternatively one could quite reasonably be considered to be the resident forum gob ****e with no reasoning capability
Or a wind up merchant, of which there are unfortunately too many on this BBS.
Whilst you have responded in detail to every line of popeye's post, you have, without exception, failed to produce any evidence to substantiate the "facts" you refer to, failed to address any of the clearly contradictory statements in your own argument and failed to adress any of the other questions raised in direct relation to the reasoning behind your beliefs resorting to either:
Re-stating your own far from unbiased opinions;
accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being a troll, a hypocrite, or numerous other rather inane derogatory comments; or
Stating that you will not lower yourself to respond.
Now, whilst I would agree that we are all entitled to hold opinion without reasoning, when one continues to post this psuedo political b/s again and again there comes a time when one's views will be called into question and one would require to address those questions to retain the respect of the community.
Certainly if I was the one so prolifically posting on a particular subject I would certainly make every effort to justify my position to retain some self respect.
Alternatively one could quite reasonably be considered to be the resident forum gob ****e with no reasoning capability
Or a wind up merchant, of which there are unfortunately too many on this BBS.
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
Hmm, I feel a break from my office (overlooking the alps) coming on. I may take a saunter down south with a couple of young lovelees
May even drive at 3546.4mph on the way there
May even drive at 3546.4mph on the way there
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Diablo - The only reason for responding line by line to popeyes posts is because he loves to do that himself. As I have already stated I refuse to engage in any form of debate with somebody who rants, bullies and insults people. To me adopting that kind of attitude means that person has already lost any argument by default.
Likewise, the only time I call anyone troll, hypocrite of whatever, is based purely upon their behaviour. As anyone who knows my posts should know I’m quite happy to debate most subjects in a reasonable manner, but I will respond in kind if I feel somebody is ‘taking liberties’ – or I won’t respond at all. It depends on my mood at the time.
I don’t know specifically what subject I am “prolifically posting" on but I can try to address any specifics you need clarification on. Bear in mind though that the majority of the ‘I Blame Blair’ posts I make are made with tongue firmly in cheek. (although they do have a serious sub-text.)
I'm out this evening, and most of the weekend - with the friends I alledgedly don't have - but I'll do my best to answer any sensible specific questions you may have.
UB
Likewise, the only time I call anyone troll, hypocrite of whatever, is based purely upon their behaviour. As anyone who knows my posts should know I’m quite happy to debate most subjects in a reasonable manner, but I will respond in kind if I feel somebody is ‘taking liberties’ – or I won’t respond at all. It depends on my mood at the time.
I don’t know specifically what subject I am “prolifically posting" on but I can try to address any specifics you need clarification on. Bear in mind though that the majority of the ‘I Blame Blair’ posts I make are made with tongue firmly in cheek. (although they do have a serious sub-text.)
I'm out this evening, and most of the weekend - with the friends I alledgedly don't have - but I'll do my best to answer any sensible specific questions you may have.
UB
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
I don’t know specifically what subject I am “prolifically posting"
Originally Posted by unclebuck
Bear in mind though that the majority of the ‘I Blame Blair’ posts I make are made with tongue firmly in cheek. (although they do have a serious sub-text.)
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having spent ages reading this thread i find it quite funny that those in favour of hunting have yet to raise any points that they or another hasnt contredicted.
'its a needed form of pest control' ------ 'but 99% of the time we catch nothing'
is that not stupidity in itself??
surelt a guy on the back of a landrover with bright spot lamps and a shot gun would be much more effective??
excusing a cruel sport because it provides jobs also seems stupid, why don't we start up orphan boxing or something, it could create hundreds of jobs.....
the reason its costing so much money is because people keep trying to stop it despite it being decided democraticly. it was MP's from all partys that voted not just labour trying to get in the public good books
every single poll i've seen has been at least 70% in favour of a ban, deal with it.
if you rarely catch anything, why not just go for a afternoons ride, are you that savage that only tearing an animal apart will make your sunday enjoyable?
admitidly i've only ever seen it on t.v, but the majority of kills i've seen involve the fox hiding either in a hole or in hay or something, so that fox has a very long time to think about dieing. you only have to look at a dog that has been badly treated to see they feel fear.
as for them killing chickens, they've got to eat havent they? many of the farmers chickens are there to be consumed by us anyway, whats the difference????
i'd be interested to know if those in favour of fox hunting are also in favour of bull fighting, dog/**** fighting etc..?
if you have a grown-up logical and factual response to any of my points, feel free to raise them...
BTW the only people i saw being hit were those trying to rip the barrier apart, so in my opinion deserved it. you'd have to be a very stupid copper to harm innocent women on live t.v, they obviously felt for their saftey and that of their collegues.
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'its a needed form of pest control' ------ 'but 99% of the time we catch nothing'
is that not stupidity in itself??
surelt a guy on the back of a landrover with bright spot lamps and a shot gun would be much more effective??
excusing a cruel sport because it provides jobs also seems stupid, why don't we start up orphan boxing or something, it could create hundreds of jobs.....
the reason its costing so much money is because people keep trying to stop it despite it being decided democraticly. it was MP's from all partys that voted not just labour trying to get in the public good books
every single poll i've seen has been at least 70% in favour of a ban, deal with it.
if you rarely catch anything, why not just go for a afternoons ride, are you that savage that only tearing an animal apart will make your sunday enjoyable?
admitidly i've only ever seen it on t.v, but the majority of kills i've seen involve the fox hiding either in a hole or in hay or something, so that fox has a very long time to think about dieing. you only have to look at a dog that has been badly treated to see they feel fear.
as for them killing chickens, they've got to eat havent they? many of the farmers chickens are there to be consumed by us anyway, whats the difference????
i'd be interested to know if those in favour of fox hunting are also in favour of bull fighting, dog/**** fighting etc..?
if you have a grown-up logical and factual response to any of my points, feel free to raise them...
BTW the only people i saw being hit were those trying to rip the barrier apart, so in my opinion deserved it. you'd have to be a very stupid copper to harm innocent women on live t.v, they obviously felt for their saftey and that of their collegues.
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2 things quickly....
Have you ever been fishing? Most of the time you catch nothing there either but I see no-one rubbishing that sport because of that??
Actually, nine times out fo ten, a guy in that situation will seriously wound a fox, then drive off and leave it to do over a number of hours in extreme pain, or of infection sometimes days later. SO which is a better solution??
Again, ditto fishing except at the end of that you beat it to death with a lump of metal, so where do you draw the line?? Is one ok and not the other???
Well brilliant, I can see that you will have a well-informed argument with someone then. Congratulations on voting with your brain and making an informed decision instead of watching the completely unbiased views of the BBC and ITV, who take pride in "animal hospital" and "vets in practice". Cynical I know, and I apologise for the tone, but this is the whole concern I have about the issue!! I don't particularly like fox-hunting myself, but I have yet to see an argument or solution that makes me think that it has been banned for the correct reasons!! Instead what we have is a paper-thin law, that has been painic rushed through with no clear thought and the most rediculously biased media coverage I have ever seen! And all it has been replaced with are semi-blind farmers and 12-bores who will likely cause more suffering than the hunts they will replace!!!
IMHO the idea of a ban is ok, but you have to put measures in place which will appease the huntsmen (more drag-hunts and things for example), after all, when you break it down it is not that far different to fishing except for one major thing.. There are millions of fishermen in Britain and the government, and every major party knows, that to take them all on in one go is political suicide. With hunting everyone sees it as having a go at the "toff's" (which it isn't) and backs it. And don't try and tell me that everyone cares about the foxes because in a lot of cases that simply is not the case.
Rant over and asbestos-coated flame suit at the ready!!
Originally Posted by wez_sti
'its a needed form of pest control' ------ 'but 99% of the time we catch nothing'
Originally Posted by wez_sti
surelt a guy on the back of a landrover with bright spot lamps and a shot gun would be much more effective??
Originally Posted by wez_sti
if you rarely catch anything, why not just go for a afternoons ride, are you that savage that only tearing an animal apart will make your sunday enjoyable?
Originally Posted by wez_sti
admitidly i've only ever seen it on t.v, but the majority of kills i've seen involve the fox hiding either in a hole or in hay or something, so that fox has a very long time to think about dieing. you only have to look at a dog that has been badly treated to see they feel fear.
IMHO the idea of a ban is ok, but you have to put measures in place which will appease the huntsmen (more drag-hunts and things for example), after all, when you break it down it is not that far different to fishing except for one major thing.. There are millions of fishermen in Britain and the government, and every major party knows, that to take them all on in one go is political suicide. With hunting everyone sees it as having a go at the "toff's" (which it isn't) and backs it. And don't try and tell me that everyone cares about the foxes because in a lot of cases that simply is not the case.
Rant over and asbestos-coated flame suit at the ready!!
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Hunting with dogs was banned in Scotland a year (or more) back
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They're now just being shot for the vermin they actually are.
Anyway, I was subjected to Basil Brush when I was a kid, so I'm clearly going to dislike all foxes on principle.
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Originally Posted by dsmith
And over twice as many now get killed per year. Some truly well thought out legislation gives a true victory for the cuddly lovable fox. or maybe not. They're now just being shot for the vermin they actually are.
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