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06 September 2004, 11:04 PM
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Cheers for that email. Just incase anyone is interested this is what ajm & I said to each other.
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> The only subtle difference I can see is that the front fins
> have supports underneath on the one we saw. Unfortunately I
> don't have a completely side on shot.
I don’t think that line is a support. If you check the photo you took after the submarine overtakes you on the twisty (LOL) you can see a groove that runs down from one end to the other. I cant see any support from that shot. I initially thought there was a support until I noticed that feature.
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> The only subtle difference I can see is that the front fins
> have supports underneath on the one we saw. Unfortunately I
> don't have a completely side on shot.
I don’t think that line is a support. If you check the photo you took after the submarine overtakes you on the twisty (LOL) you can see a groove that runs down from one end to the other. I cant see any support from that shot. I initially thought there was a support until I noticed that feature.
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06 September 2004, 11:08 PM
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Theres a guy with a digital camera pointed at you on one of the photos. Check the forums to see if anyones posted 'I was in my submarine the other day when I saw this ship...anyone know what it is?'
06 September 2004, 11:23 PM
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I have been searching the web. It apears that all the french ones have been decommisioned with the french goverment attempting to sell them off. One of them seems to be under going through some kind of testing for future development.
Heres the last of the piccys
And one of the insides, haynes manual style!
These pictures give a good reason for underestimating its size, the back end drops away and would be submerged.
Anyone else with any info please post!
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David
Heres the last of the piccys
And one of the insides, haynes manual style!
These pictures give a good reason for underestimating its size, the back end drops away and would be submerged.
Anyone else with any info please post!
Cheers
David
06 September 2004, 11:26 PM
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Not an Agosta, I'm afraid.
Look on the aft decking - there are distinctive vents on our mystery boat that are absent on the froggy number. Plus the struts below the 'planes as already pointed out.
My recognition guide tells me nothing useful except that it isn't Soviet.
I can say that it would be bloody noisy underwater, though. My bet is one of the German coastal patrol boats, meant for operating close in where the environment is noisy anyway so she'll not be so easy to track...
OK, having dug a bit more I can suggest a Danish built Delfinen class - 54m long and rather elderly. In fact, older than me, the last ones being launched in Jan '63.
SB
Look on the aft decking - there are distinctive vents on our mystery boat that are absent on the froggy number. Plus the struts below the 'planes as already pointed out.
My recognition guide tells me nothing useful except that it isn't Soviet.
I can say that it would be bloody noisy underwater, though. My bet is one of the German coastal patrol boats, meant for operating close in where the environment is noisy anyway so she'll not be so easy to track...
OK, having dug a bit more I can suggest a Danish built Delfinen class - 54m long and rather elderly. In fact, older than me, the last ones being launched in Jan '63.
SB
06 September 2004, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sbradley
OK, having dug a bit more I can suggest a Danish built Delfinen class - 54m long and rather elderly.
SB
SB
Originally Posted by Sbradley
In fact, older than me, the last ones being launched in Jan '63.
06 September 2004, 11:33 PM
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Good old google image search!
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DELFINEN (1961-1983)
[IMG]http://www.navalhistory.dk/images/Sk...-1214-1967.jpg[/IMG]
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Længde: 53,90 m
Bredde: 4,70 m
Dybgang: 4,00 m
2 stk. B&W dieselmotorer 1.200 Hk
2 stk. BBC elektromotorer 2.100 Hk
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06 September 2004, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sbradley
Not an Agosta, I'm afraid.
Look on the aft decking - there are distinctive vents on our mystery boat that are absent on the froggy number. Plus the struts below the 'planes as already pointed out.
SB
Look on the aft decking - there are distinctive vents on our mystery boat that are absent on the froggy number. Plus the struts below the 'planes as already pointed out.
SB
If its not Agosta then its something close. So probably french. I start looking at french designs to see if I can find anything else.
Anyone else help us with this one?
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07 September 2004, 01:17 AM
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Wonder if anyone could ID this sub I saw after I'd been to the opera :
Not sure if it's standard Australian Naval issue, but the markings are quite distinctive.
Not sure if it's standard Australian Naval issue, but the markings are quite distinctive.
07 September 2004, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MJW
Wonder if anyone could ID this sub I saw after I'd been to the opera :
Not sure if it's standard Australian Naval issue, but the markings are quite distinctive.
Not sure if it's standard Australian Naval issue, but the markings are quite distinctive.
07 September 2004, 09:22 AM
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I must admit they are quite freaky when seen from the water!
When I worked in Sardinia we used to hire ribs to go and check out the surrounding islands, whilst we were out one day we saw a conning tower out of the water, there is a big US navy base on an island called La Madalena so must have come from there, just out of interest when they surface how do they know you are not buzzing about at 40knots accross the top of them?
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When I worked in Sardinia we used to hire ribs to go and check out the surrounding islands, whilst we were out one day we saw a conning tower out of the water, there is a big US navy base on an island called La Madalena so must have come from there, just out of interest when they surface how do they know you are not buzzing about at 40knots accross the top of them?
Andy
07 September 2004, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
We couldn't see a visible number number on it unfortunately. I am guessing it is no newer than 1980 though (it was diesel) and is most likely privately owned by a museum judging by the gear the crew were wearing, but I'm no expert!
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07 September 2004, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Miwurdz
If it was diesel powered, it's not a Trafalgar class. They're SSNs - hunter/killer class and nuclear powered.
Cheers
Kav
Cheers
Kav
Apart from looking quite different I doubt a Trafalgar could even get up the Kiel Canal without beaching itself as its bang on the maximum draught!
the fact it also has no markings fits in with an older sub not in active service, its a shame in a way that we can't narrow it down the specific one of the four!
07 September 2004, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 106rallye
I must admit they are quite freaky when seen from the water!
When I worked in Sardinia we used to hire ribs to go and check out the surrounding islands, whilst we were out one day we saw a conning tower out of the water, there is a big US navy base on an island called La Madalena so must have come from there, just out of interest when they surface how do they know you are not buzzing about at 40knots accross the top of them?
Andy
When I worked in Sardinia we used to hire ribs to go and check out the surrounding islands, whilst we were out one day we saw a conning tower out of the water, there is a big US navy base on an island called La Madalena so must have come from there, just out of interest when they surface how do they know you are not buzzing about at 40knots accross the top of them?
Andy
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