boaaz

gsm1,

i am not a bad person,of course the car felt great otherwise my cash would have stayed in my pocket and i would have got the next plane home!

The reason that i say this guy has been dishonest is because he assured me that the car was in good working order and i believed him,i didn't find the post about the water pump until the next evening when i stumbled on it whilst checking for any more info on the car,somthing i could not have done previously because i had limited access due to not being a paid up mamber yet,

Answer this,if he has nothing to hide and he is all clear as the seller,why is he not answering my calls,why has he not returned any of my messages and why has he not posted anything in his defence??

Mike

StickyMicky

because he doesnt need to, he has sold his car, if it were me, and ill be honest, even if i knew nothing of any engine problems, i still wouldnt reimburse anybody, i would feel a bit gutted for the lad and such, i would be gutted that the engine had let go, but thats as far as i would go

i defintly wouldnt be getting dragged into sum drawn out internet convo about it, ive bought cars and blew the engines up 1/2 hours later, it was all down to me to fix it at the end of the day.

boaaz

I can see we are just going round in circles here, Ok if i know that my car has a spacific problem,and i sell it to you knowing this,and you don't ask me about that spacific thing but you ask about the general state of the car and i tell you that all is well and in good working order and then you buy the car on the strength of what i've said and you have a problem which involvs that spacific part which i didn't tell you aboutr because you didn't ask directly about it,Have lied to you??

Mike

StickyMicky

then the genral state of the car would be fine and he wouldnt have lied?

i mean ive checked out the for sale post, it genrally looks pretty good doesnt it

gsm1

boazz, I'm not saying you're a bad person. I'm just saying the onus is on the buyer to check for faults.
The seller may have been economical with the truth but I don't think he honestly thought the car would pack up totally after an hour.

I know when I've gone to buy a car I've never relied on what the seller has told me. Man or woman, rich or poor, young or old, they've never ever pointed out any faults. They've waited for me to find them.

boaaz

Don't bother mate,my beef isn't with you it's with the seller,your intitled to your views so i don't even know why i'm stressing with you,just wanted him to know that i'm not laying down on this!!

Mike.

StickyMicky

when i bought my current scoob, the seller pointed out the major fault, i had allready spotted it but had kept myself away from it to scope him out, he brought it up before i had even said anything, which was pretty suprising

lots of extra custom has came his way scince, it wanst a major mechanical fault, it was body work and at the time it was very hard to spot it.

boaaz

gsm1

I strongly believe that he felt in his hart that the car would get me home,we had this conversation every day for a week,but he did know that i was about to do the best part of a 6hr drive with a leaking waterpump filled with radfiller and thats my beef,he knew this much so now i've found out i feel that he should help me out towards the repair and beforyou start with the flaming,this is somthing that HE sugested on the day after it happened.

Mike

StickyMicky

to be fair, it sounds like a delaying tactic to get you off his back for a bit, so he can evaluate his options

maybe its not

gsm1

Boazz, I'm not gonna flame you mate, I'm sure you're feeling pretty p*ssed as it is!

I'll just wish you the best of luck and I hope you get it sorted. You live and learn!

Oh..and just to add, forget a rebuild - you can probably source a decent 2nd hand engine for much less.

And one extra thing, I wouldn't bother wasting money or time on taking legal action against the seller. Any decent solicitor will tell you that you don't have a leg to stand on with a private purchase. Buying from a trader is different. You can only rely on any goodwill from the guy.

boaaz

gsm1,

Cheers for that,i think i've found anEVO3 engin allready,tell you what though,i'll be glad when this is all over!!

Mike

bbigman2000

Probably because they are NEXT to useless, especially with evo's and turbo cars, there inspection does not include anything like a compression test or an analysis of the contents of the rad etc, they are clueless and very recently I read about a evo being bought on there say so and weeks later it blew up.

They will accept NO responsibility atall after there report is issued, just try fighting them in the courts, your waisting your time.

If your buying a evo, take it for a LONG run, come back, turn the heaters OFF and leave it sitting ticking over, wait for the fan to come on etc this is sufficient to tell you if the water pump is going or other symptoms present themselves.

Check the rad and header tank, check the oil for water and vice versa etc etc etc, look for signs of water and anti freeze leakage.

Forget the AA/RAC they are good for nothing except picking you up at the roadside.

THE M25 FLYER

I understand everyone has a right to air an opinion,but what you have stated is in my view total crap.
If you actually knew what the job of an AA/RAC patrol involves then perhaps you could come up with something original that you haven't just read somewhere.
To quote accurate figures over 90% of breakdowns i attend are rectified there and then at the roadside,the remaining % (RTA's and catastrophic failures) are recovered as required.
So if i am only good for picking you up at the roadside then i can only assume that you are a gifted mechanical genius that has never had the misfortune to require assistance,unfortunatly people do from time to time need help and i am proud of the job i do and the assistance i give 24/7,365 days a year.

On the subject of rebuilding a cooked engine,its really not worth it just go for a low mile jap imported engine from someone like API . Mark (RAC patrol).

Prince Popeye

If he ain;t answering your calls, it just goes to show hes an arthur Daley. The impression i get from reading his advert on the MLR is that the car is a minter. Having a 5K bill after picking the car up is way out of order. I've had a similar problem after picking a GT turbo up in my wild days. Turbo blew along the M1 after 10 miles. Luckily dealer honoured his word and I got my money back.
Problem now is its your word against his. Hate to say this but you have no leg to stand on. Alot of ppl think buying off a member is a 100% guarantee that the car ain't been ragged. Best to get a AA check but like I said before we'll all been done at one point.

Mitch C

iTrader: (1)

I'm sure if the seller had thought the engine was going to let go in the fashion it did, he would have sorted the problem while he owned it. There's no way you can predict when the engine is going to go, it's just fortunate for him (and incredibly unfortunate for you) that it went an hour after he sold it. If he had gone for a decent drive in it, it would have happened to him.

I think the most you can hope for is a goodwill gesture from him, but not everyone is that forthcoming.

Also, there's no way that you'd pay £5K for a rebuild on an engine for a car worth £5.5K. If it went say a month after you'd bought it, you would be shopping around for a secondhand engine or a garage to do the job for far less than that. I think the price you quoted is worst case scenario for compensation/insurance work, or from a place with big windows

I hope it all turns out well for you.

jono300

iTrader: (8)

TO be perfectly honest mate, on a sum off money like this I would be inclined to make the long journey back up north, may cost you another few hundred quid in train / plane tickets, but having the conversation with the chap face to face may just make the differnce, and by that I dont mean " threaten him " just personally think that with him being the cowardly sort off which he sounds, ie. by not responding to calls / e-mails etc, he may just be willing to sort something out that you are both happier with when faced with you at his front door ??!!

maybe the above sounds as if it would be okay in an ideal world type off thing ??!! who knows ?? also mate if I were you I would forgett looking for any more response on here be it good or bad, it is making me feel angry reading some off the comments from other members off the forum, I really can imagine what you are going thru mate, maybe not a lot off money to some folks on here !!! but it would be more than enough to make myself feel physically sick with anger / frustration at what has happened to you should it have happened to myself.

to suggest to you that you are purely venting your anger on s/n as opposed to pointing out your story and perhaps letting someone else be weary off buying there s/h scooby off this very chap in future is utter nonsense- you know who you are who made the comment- lets hope its not you who is looking for any sympathey in future mate should this type off thing ever happen to you- " give this guy a break "



get up there mate at the weekend- un-announced, see if the chap will be so keen to hide then ?? good luck mate, hope it works out for you in someway at the end off it all.

cheers,
john..

Prince Popeye

'There's no way you can predict when the engine is going to go, it's just fortunate for him (and incredibly unfortunate for you) that it went an hour after he sold it. If he had gone for a decent drive in it, it would have happened to him.'

So why isn't the guy answering his calls then? Obviously knew the car was a lemon IMHO

MooseRacer

Prince Popeye has humble opinion shocker!

oak

just sell it to sticky micky, tell him its a waxer and then it'll be down to him to fix it, you'll get no come back

Pbr

Thought the H stood for honest???

MooseRacer

Oh does it?

****.


Edited to say nope, defo humble.

Mitch C

iTrader: (1)

Yeah, it's humble, I think.

Also, Prince Popeye-I appreciate he knew there was something wrong, but I don't believe he would have known the full extent, and yes, it does sound dodgy now that he's not answering calls, emails etc.

John- It's a long way to go if the bloke isn't at home....

dba

The evidence suggests the guy knew the car was fvcked.From the pics and links the car was sticky plastered together just enough to sell it.

RRH

Yozaaaaaaaaaaaaaa where are you matey

Prince Popeye

Mein gott I have a humble opinion.