boaaz

Yes he does live in Inverness mate,i know because i flew all the way there on Sunday!!

Mike.

harry_p1

Hi Matey,

I'm really sorry to hear about the subaru you were sold, right thats the first bit secondly (well mainly) IF as in this situation IF is TRUE, If he is not responding to your contact, go over, and in simple english help him respond . See alot of people may think this is wrong BUT there are some people out there unfortunatly who only understand this method. And I'm sorry to say its your job as youre the one who's lost out.
Put it this way if i lived near you i'd come with and i'm sure there are some club members out there who would agree.
Anyone near this mateys area?
If so HELP him out

Soulgirl

He lied to you. Irrespective of caveats spoken of above, he misrepresented the car he was selling. He knowingly sold you a car that was defective whilst telling you it was in good working order. You have the evidence from the other forum post about the defects, so that together with a mechanical report you should be in a strong enough position to make a claim against the small claims court? I think you are within the fiscal limits of that court at £5k.

Don't sit on your laurels mate... get up and fight the sneaky toerag.

Johnsey

Sorry to hear this Boaaz, this is really bad.
The motor looked nice and you paid a lot for it.

Gives us lads on MLR a bad name.

GC8 You must have been very lucky with your motor. I have a buyer in Japan who just bought me a lovely grade 3.5 in black for 306,000 Yen, roughly £1500+ shipping £550+ Duty/Vat£600+ agent,MOT, REG etc. The car will cost me at least £3000 to put on the road, provided it is fault free!

Hope you get it sorted Boaaz,

All the best,
Johnsey

boaaz

Harry,It was an EVO,and i know what you are saying,but i like to think it's more damaging not knowing what's going to happen,and What goes around,comes around!!
He'll get his!!

Mike.

washer

sorry to read youve been riped off m8 info cas in e/port on the wirral i would have the phone number some were would do you a full rebuild for 2 grand chin up
ps think thier a web site on here for them

pslewis

Send the boys round and get your money back!!

He has clearly sold you a car that he knew needed work - a **** thing to do to anyone!

You are legally up the creek with a rather bent paddle, but, a friendly word in his shell like should result in a 'goodwill' gesture on his part towards the cost of repair (or, at the very least, £1000 to source a new engine from Japan)

Pay him a visit!!

Pete

Redkop

boaaz, whilst everyone has full sympathy for you, for what has happened the title of your thread is not really appropriate, nor should it be taken as a warning to ScoobyNet members, however loosely connected, just because the seller now has a Scoob.

Please do not use SN as an outlet to vent your anger and draq SN users into your grievances with the seller of the Evo that you now have. So would all SN members, please just offer constructive advice and not register on MLR, just to stir the situation.

Thanks

boaaz

Redkop.

I haven't used the SN forum to vent any anger as you have put it,I'm sure if this post had helped you from buying a potential nightmere,your comments might be a little different!

This post alone has if nothing else made owners and potential owners aware!!
sorry if you can't see that!!

Mike.

Stueyb

CAS Motorsport can be contacted on 0151 357 3731. Steve and the crew at CAS will do u a first class job

boaaz

Cheers for that!!

Mike.

Alas

Hi m8
Really gutted for you.

First port of call must be CAB as others have suggested. It costs nothing and you will be told straight if there is anyway you can get some/all of your cash back.
I've used them and they were excellent.
Alas

StickyMicky

i have a question

how has this person lied?

from what i read (quick skim)

he sold the car and didnt tell you about the previous problems, did you ask about them??

imlach

Not trying to be unhelpful, BUT.....

It's a hard lesson, but you're by no means the first, and certainly won't be the last.

If you're spending your hard-earned on a high performance car, which in reality is pretty old, and you're buying privately, you have to go into it with ALL eyes open. To not even drive it yourself before purchase seems naive.

To "trust" someone because they "exist" on a specialist internet website is even more naive.

If you are purchasing cars based on 'trust' and 'their word', you have just learnt the hard way not to trust anyone....

There's not a great deal of comeback on a private car purchase, and to cut the seller a bit of slack, he admits he knows nowt about mechanics! He knew there was something needing done on the engine, but as he said "it still drove ok".

Certainly if I'm selling a car privately, I don't know much about the inner workings of every bit of an engine, and I expect the buyer to pick up on any forthcoming items which are close to failure....but if they still work at the point of sale, then it's "buyer beware". If it works, it's saleable. How much it is worth is an issue between the buyer & the seller.

You didn't expect to purchase a 10 year old performance car privately and for it to come with a 12 month warranty and work in 'as new' condition did you? After all, I assume you bought privately because you wanted to pick up a bargain?

CivicD

Hi There,

Sorry to hear this. I was looking at this car when I first decided I wanted and Evo. He has tried to swap it for a Cossie advertised on the MLR along with others. I sold my EVO to get a Scooby, glad I never went for this one. Going by the ad. you would think that this car was a minter....Gutted for ya mate..

Have you mentioned anything about this on MLR, Name and Shame on there too..

Just my Pennies worth..

Good Luck Mate

Regards

Chris

imlach

That's right.....if it looks good in the ad, it MUST be a good car....

Are you guys all so naive?

imlach

One other thing - you mentioned the clutch has about 1k miles left on it.

....and?

Sounds like it works then. I know it's seems unjust, but parts on cars do wear out over time.

coulty

Imlach i see where you are coming from but cut the guy some slack. I bought a car for me missus that had good mileage, been serviced on time and was owned from new by the same older woman. It was a minter but still blew the head gasket 2 weeks after buying it. Of course I thought it was a good car but the 2nd hand car market is both knowing a lot and a bit of luck too.

All i am saying is he has every right to feel like he has been cheated out his money, 1 thing going bad is probably cause he didn't know but loads is basically cause he didn't give a f*ck about the way he drove and looked after his car.

I have had to replace loads on my scoob but not all at the same time. Age has a lot to do with it but also the way people treat their cars.

All IMHO
Stuart

imlach

It is an unfortunate situation, but trying to place the blame ALL on the seller is naive. Did the buyer drive the car before buying? Did he get it inspected?

..and did you go moaning back to seller? No....


....which is something you cannot tell when buying a car. Trust no-one!

Dracoro

Not read all the thread but it seems like the seller promise to fix the head gasket but hadn't. Therefore he lied?

Redkop

Quote:

Originally Posted by boaaz

This post alone has if nothing else made owners and potential owners aware!!

Owners and potential owners aware of what? Unfortunately, Mike, this is not a new thing about people being ripped off when buying cars, it's been going on for years, there have been many instances in the past on SN. I am just pointing out, that SN shouldn't be an outlet for you to register and warn users, if an Sti RA is being sold to be ‘apprehensive’. You have absolutely no proof that the STi RA will not be looked after.

Therefore, you must stick to plain facts and refrain from posting anything that could be potentially libellous.

Warwick-hunt

redkop, what if your car had been stolen and you asked the guys on SN to keep an eye out for it,
all boaaz is doing is trying to get a bit support, as he's in a difficult situation
and as know it all imlach says he should have done this and done that, but he didn't and hes in this situation and i don't think its too much to ask to give him a bit support, because the results of this may help people in the future if they are in a similar situation!

paulr

Good advice.........as far as i know sold as seen is not the blanket "this is nothing to do with me" that people think.
Do you have ANY evidence that he said it was in good working order?

CivicD

Depends How you look at it Bud. Guy has been on MLR for a while (Good Post Count), MLR has a good rep. this therefore is good for prospective sellers (Relying on the MLR rep). Popular rules apply here, go to Scoobynet to Buy a Scooby, go to RSOC to by an RS, go to MLR to buy an Evo in the hope that these people has taken the time to join, taken the time and made the effort to get good sound advice on looking after their car, therefore you would expect to buy a Good car from someone that has supposidly looked after their car, this obviously not the case.

The Above is my only point. I guess the saying 'Never Judge A Book By It's Cover' applies here though the point of this thread to to inform us that this type of thing happens and possibly happens more that we relise. Nieve I am certainly not but I would rather by a car from an enthusiast than My Joe Bloggs.

Hope you get sorted Bud,

Regards

Chris

imlach

Where have you been for the last 40 years? Stuck in a cave?

Do you really think boaaz is the first person EVER to have bought a 11 year old performance car which had an engine problem????? Most people don't need real world examples to be "buyer beware" when buying 2nd hand.

I am just struck by the naevity of some on here. If you want a car to be mechanically sound, perfect in most ways, and with no wear and tear, buy new, or at worst, with a warranty from a dealer.

If you're going to sink ALL your readies into a 11 year old performance car which you haven't driven or had checked over by a someone who knows about them, you do need to take some of the blame yourself....

imlach

Absolute rubbish.
Just because someone has a PC and can post on a public forum makes them a trustworthy person to buy an Evo from????

I've yet to see any accreditation from the SMMT for the MLR For Sale forum

CivicD

Err That was my point Mate !!

Regards

Chris

StickyMicky

im glad people are starting to post sum common sense

you buy a car like that and dont fully check it out and its your own fault

imlach

The other point is that as cars get older, a large majority of people begin to neglect regular servicing schedules etc. Things are often only fixed when they go wrong. Especially the case for luxury/performance vehicles where parts are more expensive.

It is really only TRUE enthusiasts that service 11 year old cars as they should be. Most 11 year old cars on the road get nothing in the way of regular servicing, and probably only get a few essential things done when the MoT comes around....

When something major looks like it is on it's way out, that is when a lot of 11 year old cars will be coming up for sale........shift it on while it is still saleable.

Not nice, but that's how the motor buying/selling business works.....it's not rocket science.

stu_5

I have to agree.

Onus is on the buyer to have sufficent awareness to check the car in a private sale, before he buys it- particulary if it's 11 years old.

If it needs 5 grands worth of repairs to the engine, it should have been not just slightly but extremely obvious....

If you dont have enough mechanical knowledge to be able to examine it properly, either get it AA/RAC inspected or buy it from a dealer- at the end of the day thats why people use them.

If you dont and take the risks it's down on the buyer to be responsible for the consequences.

Whatever he does though, do not spend 5 grand getting an engine rebuild on a car worth not much more than that at most- time to get in touch with the breakers for a secondhand engine.