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Old 06 July 2004, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Copper spots and follows a subaru - on the phone for a PNC check. Car reg matches description and is NOT reported stolen - yet it gets pulled over anyway. I would not mind being pulled over occasionally for a random check but rather they just be honest than use an excuse like 'the no. plates are similar'.
The thing you are failing to realise is that just because there is no "stolen marker" on the PNC, this doesn not mean the car is legit.

Plenty cars are stolen and outstanding for a long time before the owner even realises its gone.

The ONLY way to absolutely confirm, is a spot check.


Originally Posted by papascooby
It's a disgusting abuse of power and the kind of thing that gives the police the bad name they seem to merit.
How on earth does "abuse of power" come into it.
The police are a public service, so if a member of the public makes a complaint to them, it MUST be investigated and dealt with accordingly.
Where is power being abused in this scenario?????
Believe me, there are LOTS of minor reports/complaints that I would LOVE to sweep under the carpet, but if I did, I'd get done with neglect of duty.




Originally Posted by Bubba po
To get an appreciation of what happened, imagine that the people weren't in cars and were walking down the street. If some angry bloke was walking a foot behind you, shouting and screaming at you, you would have every right to report the incident and furnish the police with whatever descripion you could. There is an element that thinks it's acceptable behaviour to become angry at other road users and they should be re-educated, IMHO.
An excellent point, and something that folk often seem to forget.
Old 06 July 2004, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by talizman
The thing you are failing to realise is that just because there is no "stolen marker" on the PNC, this doesn not mean the car is legit.

Plenty cars are stolen and outstanding for a long time before the owner even realises its gone.

The ONLY way to absolutely confirm, is a spot check.
Fair point, I thought a PNC check would highlight if a car had been reported stolen.
Old 06 July 2004, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Fair point, I thought a PNC check would highlight if a car had been reported stolen.
A PNC check WILL show the car as stolen, providing it has been reported!

Perhaps in the future, our cars will automatically update the PNC if they are taken without the owners consent!

It'd make my job a lot easier!

The following scenario is not uncommon.....

A car commits thefts of petrol at numerous service stations over a period of time.
Enquiries are made at the registered keepers address, however there is never any reply.

After about 2 weeks, you finally get an answer at the door, only to find that the registered keeper has just stepped off a plane from his hols, and that his car has been stolen some 2 weeks ago, yet the PNC did not show a marker.

Nightmare.
Old 06 July 2004, 12:51 PM
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I actually agree with spot checks, at least that way they can ask you questions to confirm your identity, address etc, never been pulled in my scooby but then its a wagon and doesnt have an IKEA coffee table stuck on the back
Old 06 July 2004, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Fair point, I thought a PNC check would highlight if a car had been reported stolen.
Yes it does until the person stealing the car puts your number plate on the car after seeing it on the internet. Suddenly the stolen car looks legit on a PNC check until you actually stop it.

I recovered an Astra GTE that had been stolen 5 yrs previously from Croydon and had been driving round with false plates from another car all that time

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Old 06 July 2004, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by talizman
In an ideal world, yes, the police would be actively looking for each individual stolen car, but it is just not possible.

Most stolen cars are simply "happened upon".
My comment previous was perhaps misunderstood. I don't expect the police force to be able to physically follow up every stolen car report immediately. As I said, perhaps in a utopian society, or at least one where the police force weren't as stretched as it seems.

My point really is not that its bad policing in thoery, just a bit of a waste of resources in an already stretched organisation. But thats probably good for the overtime.
Old 06 July 2004, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by talizman
The following scenario is not uncommon.....

A car commits thefts of petrol at numerous service stations over a period of time.
Enquiries are made at the registered keepers address, however there is never any reply.

After about 2 weeks, you finally get an answer at the door, only to find that the registered keeper has just stepped off a plane from his hols, and that his car has been stolen some 2 weeks ago, yet the PNC did not show a marker.
Isn't that supposed to be the big winner with trackers? Everytime I go away and leave mine (airport, port, driveway, etc.) I ring the RAC up and tell them. Then if the car moves they know it's stolen - simple
Old 06 July 2004, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrustSSC
Isn't that supposed to be the big winner with trackers? Everytime I go away and leave mine (airport, port, driveway, etc.) I ring the RAC up and tell them. Then if the car moves they know it's stolen - simple
Thats all good and well, but you must bear in mind that the vast majority of cars on the road do not have trackers.

Then take into account that the few cars with trackers, may not be "active" trackers, therefore they only start "tracking" when you report the car stolen.

Uphill struggle all the way
Old 06 July 2004, 07:59 PM
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I'm surprised at the number of times people claim to be 'randomly' stopped. I've only ever been stopped twice; once was years ago, in a barely-legal Fiat Panda at 2am (fair enough!), and the other time was in my scooby for a random check of my documents. If you're getting pulled every month, are you really sure it's random, and that your driving isn't attracting attention?
Old 07 July 2004, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
I'm surprised at the number of times people claim to be 'randomly' stopped. I've only ever been stopped twice; once was years ago, in a barely-legal Fiat Panda at 2am (fair enough!), and the other time was in my scooby for a random check of my documents. If you're getting pulled every month, are you really sure it's random, and that your driving isn't attracting attention?
Admittedly a couple of years ago, but I've been pulled over by both Bracknell and Farnborough Police for spot checks. The Bracknell coppers said they were pulling over every Impreza they came across. The Farnborough coppers said I was pulled over because I wasn't speeding (obviously don't realise some people actually use their rear view mirrors), which is inherently suspicious. They also said I'd have been pulled (and done) if I had been speeding. So at least 2 Police forces, at one time, were pulling over all Imprezas even if they are being driven sensibly.
Old 07 July 2004, 12:48 AM
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and started with a list of 200 blue subaru 53regd cars in my area
Blimey! Time to sell on and buy something 'different'
Old 07 July 2004, 09:53 AM
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I've had mine for 15 or so months and haven't been stopped yet.
Old 07 July 2004, 01:26 PM
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Yoza keeps getting pulled up because he likes to park outside banks with the engine running and a stocking on his head.
Old 07 July 2004, 01:43 PM
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Your joking of course....there is no way they would let me drive !
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