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Old 27 May 2004, 05:48 PM
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Don't the Asda trolleys have a notorious problem with the 3rd wheel giving up if you use the wrong type of road surface?
Old 27 May 2004, 05:59 PM
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I recently had a play with a new M3 convertable - original thread on a "was it you" thingy. We went up to 70mph and there was absolutely nothing in it. Scooby second gear let me down (as always), you couldnt split us. The only reason I guessed he was trying is because the fella drives like a n0b every morning and I knew he couldnt resisit.
My 99 classic scooby is ever so slightly modded (appx 240bhp)..
Happy days
Old 27 May 2004, 06:01 PM
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so have you tried to drive an airport trolly - steering is controlled by rear wheels - a complete bummer to drive. But they have brakes more powerful than Godspeed 6-pots!
Old 27 May 2004, 06:06 PM
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My pet hamster is actually a wizard from the ripe berry clan. He can create shopping trolleys with just a wiggle of his nose.
Old 27 May 2004, 06:21 PM
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Owned both (M3 Evo and Sti8 ppp) - very closely matched. If you want a conclusive answer I suggest you drive both and take what people say here with a gigantic shovel full of sodium chloride!

(except those who have extensively driven both of course)

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Old 27 May 2004, 08:53 PM
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Honestly how can you compare a Waitrose trolley with a Lidl one, I'll never know
Old 27 May 2004, 09:32 PM
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The real question should be "which driver is the biggest ****?". It used to be clear cut, but I'm not sure anymore...
Old 27 May 2004, 09:55 PM
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Do you get chavs in M3s?
Old 27 May 2004, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
I recently had a play with a new M3 convertable - original thread on a "was it you" thingy. We went up to 70mph and there was absolutely nothing in it. Scooby second gear let me down (as always), you couldnt split us. The only reason I guessed he was trying is because the fella drives like a n0b every morning and I knew he couldnt resisit.
My 99 classic scooby is ever so slightly modded (appx 240bhp)..
Happy days
have followed ZM roadster in a 99 UK turbo, with close view of his eyes in his rear view mirror, he did not look to happy with his purchase. driver satisfaction is all important. trolleys however are new to me, try ocado.com
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Old 27 May 2004, 11:11 PM
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M3 Cab

Zero to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 22.8 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.7 sec @ 104 mph
Car and Driver 333bhp american version

300bhp STI spec Subaru
Subaru
Impreza WRX STi
0-60 4.9s
0-100 12.6s
1/4mile 13.3s @ 103.0 mph
Road and track

M3 coupe (333bhp)
0–60 mph.......4.7
0–100 mph.......11.6
0—1320 ft (1⁄4 mile).......13.3 @ 106.8 mph
Road and track

A 300bhp scoob will get close to an M3 coupe, but of course the Cab is faster than anything.....ever !

Cabs are always faster Newton's law of ***** Pulling,

Cabs just got more pulling power
Old 28 May 2004, 01:02 AM
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Sorry to start the trolley talk.

Just had a quick look before going to bed and now i've pmsl.

You guys are great! The comments made are creasing me up
Old 28 May 2004, 04:17 AM
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Well guys, I went for a un in both a lidls trolley and a Safeway trolley tonight and can say that the liddles trolley was faster in a straight line.
Whilst coiasting its cornering ability left a lot to be desired, unlike the Safeway trolley that managed to take a long sweeping left hander and clear a set of three stairs with considerable ease before coming to a halt after chronic oversteer caused kerb impact and a badly bruised swellbow.
I felt the Lidles model would be better daily driver and offers more crash protection and a smoother ride!

I thank you!
Old 28 May 2004, 07:22 AM
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You have all missed the point...

Halfords trolleys are best. At least they are reliable as Haldfords incorporate a whole AA Service Centre to keep the things in tip-top condition!
Old 28 May 2004, 07:54 AM
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I tested out the new Heathrow trolleys last night.

Fantastic handling, even in the twisties by the BA desk, though the hand-operated squeeze braking system was a novelty.

Straight-line performance was also much better than expected - 0 - walking pace in just one stride, and that was fully loaded (max. capacity 2 suitcases or 27 Romanian asylum seekers*). Likes a drink though - loads of them were obviously queueing outside the Wetherspoons pub for a refill.

And the owners! I've never seen such a bunch of "better than you" snobs, all poing on about their expensive foreign holidays. You'd have thought the ownsers of such fine beasts could have some other topis of conversation, but no, it was Florida this and LA that.

I'm off to Happy Shopper - reckon I'll meet my sort of people there.







*Just to try and combine several of the more popular threads on SN
Old 28 May 2004, 08:28 AM
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Well the worst handling trolley I've ever encountered are the Costco trolleys - Overweight, poor steering and a crap chassis make for a very dissapointing experience. With me pushing the bhp/tonne for the average costco beast is a mere 23.76 - compare that the the M&S equivalent of 47.76 and I don't know why we are even having this debate! I admit that your average Costco consists of more straights than your average M&S but even taking into account braking and 4 versus 3 wheel drive the M&S is still a better a to b Trolley


Having said that I did have a run in with a costco trolley in my STi8 and whilst the overweight lump was left for dead in the car-park (round the twisties) I didn't spot it's mate infront of me and now my Legendary Subaru paint is part of Trolley number 87234-65A .
Old 28 May 2004, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
I'm here and I'm ready - if Skittles is up for it we can go to war .
Hey I'm here! Bit late in the day... not too knowledgeable about trolleys though.
Old 28 May 2004, 09:28 AM
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Damn, I was hoping for a right argument. Ok, time to stoke it up

'I think.......no I KNOW that the M3 in fact ANY M3 is the fastest car in the world' and the most reasonably priced.

Matt
Old 28 May 2004, 11:11 AM
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Trolleys are mint in the twistys due to the brilliant 4wd system, locking them up is scary though
Old 28 May 2004, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PPPMAT
Damn, I was hoping for a right argument. Ok, time to stoke it up

'I think.......no I KNOW that the M3 in fact ANY M3 is the fastest car in the world' and the most reasonably priced.

Matt

LOL, let me give you a hand: Agree with you mate. It is also THE definitive driving machine. If only BMW would leverage this fact by basing their marketing it.
Old 28 May 2004, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 16vmarc
Trolleys are mint in the twistys due to the brilliant 4wd system, locking them up is scary though
Agree, trolleys are the pinicle of motoring:

-Aluminuim construction
-4W steering
-Run flats
-Economical
-Practical
-Room for a driver plus 3 passengers
-Sainsbury's trolleys even have anti-theft systems: the £1 depost thing
Old 28 May 2004, 11:48 AM
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Some have brakes
Old 28 May 2004, 11:57 AM
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And some are amphibious (cheaper than the £150k for the car/speedboat thing).

However they don't float very well and the performance suffers.

TIAL
Old 28 May 2004, 01:34 PM
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TR.I.A.L.

Old 28 May 2004, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
TR.I.A.L.

Ouch, bad accident. Must have lost control on the twisties.
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Fuel surge I suspect ...
Old 28 May 2004, 03:33 PM
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Notice its a tesco trolley, with MAF sensor problem so fuel surge could be possible.

Think you would be better with the wagon version.

Old 28 May 2004, 03:39 PM
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And it's got the full racing roll cage
Old 28 May 2004, 03:40 PM
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ps Not sure about 1 wheel drive/steering - I suppose you wouldn't have much in the way of transmission loss
Old 28 May 2004, 03:43 PM
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lightning, isn't that the Forrester trolley? Same powertrain but beefed up chassis and bodywork for better load-carrying?
Old 28 May 2004, 06:30 PM
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Porsche have just put this new trolley boxster together for the discerning man with "hair product".




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