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Old 13 April 2004, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by uk95scooby
Enjoy the the money Simon & Pete !! Your GR8 ! Possible Knighthood or obe ? ******rs
Dude take a chill pill. Simon had nothing to do with the original ScoobySport and that's who you've paid your money to.


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Old 13 April 2004, 06:43 PM
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uk95scooby,
What part of my last message did you not quite understand?

I fully appreciate how you must feel, but Simon or any other investor have never had ANY connection with Scoobysport that was owned by Pete Croney. It is only the name "Scoobysport" and associated web urls that have been purchased from the receivers nothing else. This can be further confirmed if you would take the time to speak to the official receivers directly.

I fully appreciate your anger, but making such accusations that are simply untrue is not helping anyone.

Regards,
Shaun.

**Edited to change a typo from "creditors" to "receivers"**

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Old 13 April 2004, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by webmaster
uk95scooby,
What part of my last message did you not quite understand?

I fully appreciate how you must feel, but Simon or any other investor have never had ANY connection with Scoobysport that was owned by Pete Croney. It is only the name "Scoobysport" and associated web urls that have been purchased from the receivers nothing else. This can be further confirmed if you would take the time to speak to the official receivers directly.

I fully appreciate your anger, but making such accusations that are simply untrue is not helping anyone.

Regards,
Shaun.

**Edited to change a typo from "creditors" to "receivers"**
so i take it you never lost 300 quid with scoobysport ? Drop in the ocean for some people but not for me !! The creditors say i may or may not get my money or the exhaust ? I have to wait untill they contact me ? gr8 !

IF I GOT IT WRONG ABOUT SIMON I AM SORRY but ive been told so much **** since this happened.
Old 13 April 2004, 06:53 PM
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Look at the whos online list at the bottom of the main page and pete croney is quite often online
Old 13 April 2004, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by S.B.
Look at the whos online list at the bottom of the main page and pete croney is quite often online
does it give his home address by any chance ?
Old 13 April 2004, 06:56 PM
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Uk95Scooby,

I can only reiterate that I fully understand your frustration and anger, but what I have stated is factual. There are no "IF" as regards to what I have stated, this is the truth which I am sure the receivers will confirm.

Regards,
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Originally Posted by uk95scooby
does it give his home address by any chance ?
No it just lists who is logged into scoobynet
Old 13 April 2004, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by webmaster
Uk95Scooby,

I can only reiterate that I fully understand your frustration and anger, but what I have stated is factual. There are no "IF" as regards to what I have stated, this is the truth which I am sure the receivers will confirm.

Regards,
Shaun.

Im just going to put it down to experience and be very carefull who i trust when buying off sn.

It seem that i did have my wires crossed about Simon and for that i am Sorry ..
Old 13 April 2004, 07:10 PM
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LOL, he's logged in right now
Old 13 April 2004, 07:15 PM
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Doesn't that just show a disdain for his customers. He's not even avoiding the place but won't comment on what has been going on.
People want answers........... over to you Pete.


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Old 13 April 2004, 07:23 PM
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sympathies to all who have been ripped off.
bit of a joke seeing seeing that the owner of the company posted this comment in march this year in non scooby related.
doesnt sound too hard up to me

"..........I fly from a private strip near Chelmsford. I do go into Southend occasionally as three mates are based there. Two fly ML, the third has a Jet Ranger..............."
Old 13 April 2004, 07:36 PM
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If you get yourself on the creditors list, it's unlikely you will ever see the vast majority of your lost money. The major creditors will be HMC&E and the Inland Revenue, then the trade creditors (e.g. people who invested in the business, allowing them to buy equipment, etc.) You'll be a looooonnnnggg way down the list.
Old 13 April 2004, 07:57 PM
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Just a thought...

To some of the guys who have paid for parts & not received them, can you not claim the money back from your credit card company?
Old 13 April 2004, 08:02 PM
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Point of interest

HM C&E & IR are now (since Sept 2003) normal creditors. Employees are the only ones who are considered "preferential" (& that is capped), everyone else is pence in £.
Old 13 April 2004, 08:08 PM
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Just had a quick read over the posts. I have friends who have been through the exact same thing with another car club.

The forum was closed down for a few days and several people who posted on the thread were given court papers for slander etc, and the chaiman of the club etc.

If you are involved with this problem I would strongly advise you do not post anything on this forum. I am not kidding, the court action almost destroyed our club that had taken many years to build up.

Please belive me, take proper action but dont air your views on here, you could get into serious problems.
Old 13 April 2004, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
HM C&E & IR are now (since Sept 2003) normal creditors. Employees are the only ones who are considered "preferential" (& that is capped), everyone else is pence in £.
That's interesting to know. But still, I reckon any creditor will be lucky to get back 10% of what's owed. Even in a sole trader situation, where the trader himself is declared bankrupt, after a certain period they can apply to be discharged even if all the debts haven't been cleared.
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All I was doing was stating fact not conjecture m8 - not my place to do so. Having recently been on the receiving end of a company wind-up, found this all out the hard way.
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I have some experience of this situation;

Anyone, car owners or suppliers who have goods that they can prove title to [ I.E. not paid for ] inside a failed business premises are entitled to them back from the receivers / liquidators. There may be a slight delay, but once you have registered your interest the administrators will look out for you.

Beyond that, what might happen is that, the principals of Scoobysport may buy the company back from the administrators for an agreed figure. AND providing the administrator can demonstrate that the offer is a good one and that there are no other realistic offers on the table. He will sell. Then Scoobysport can be back in business within 3 weeks of closing. 3 weeks being the least contentious time for offers to be considered and finalised.

Not good, but it's the law and it's called corporate recovery these days. The unsecured creditors, with the exception of the taxman and customs and excise, get nothing.

Watch and see what happens.

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Old 13 April 2004, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
All I was doing was stating fact not conjecture m8 - not my place to do so.
I know -- and like I said, it's interesting to know that the rules have changed.

However, if a company could pay all of its creditors in full it wouldn't be in receivership
So I wouldn't hold out much hope, personally.
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David, you are wrong in this instance. Scoobysport was Pete as a sole trader.

Also guys, talking about creditors, usually a bank is involved & usually a bank is a secured creditor.
Old 13 April 2004, 09:41 PM
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Right, I think there should be a seperate thread with a list of people and their problems with Scoobysport. It makes me sick that Simon can put up a thread praising a failed business when so many appear to have either money or cars outstanding.
Old 13 April 2004, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Right, I think there should be a seperate thread with a list of people and their problems with Scoobysport. It makes me sick that Simon can put up a thread praising a failed business when so many appear to have either money or cars outstanding.
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...3&page=1&pp=20
Old 13 April 2004, 09:45 PM
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Right, I think I should read the dealer and third party forum more often!!
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Old 14 April 2004, 05:15 AM
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Hi Guys

Firstly, and without doubt foremost.. I genuinely sympathise with anyone who has experienced problems with regards to pete ceasing trading. Withouth question these are the times when the community can pull together to support each other.. so the thread in 3rd party was set-up for that very reason.

With regard to the ScoobySport name. Please think of it this way. We are not buying the company, or the business, or the customers, etc.. imagine we had simply bought some products that were in stock.. a few exhausts, a gear box, a rear wing and couple of sets of brakes. The scoobysport name is just an asset in the same way as any of these items.

With regard to the thread which has been reported as being a "praise scoobysport" thread. Please read my post in that carefully.. It was there in recognition of what Pete actually did. Regardless of what has happened (and there's no question, any bankrupcy, etc is going to cause huge problems, and upset) pete did usher in an era of scooby modifications. It was this achievement and his support of the community that all of the people who posted (notice, I only posted one comment) were "praising".

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Please let's all pull together here to help the people out who have lost out due to the closure of scoobysport.

The purchasing of the scoobysport name and web urls is a completely seperate issue which bares no relation to this subject, apart from the fact that the money raised by the sale of these assets will add money that can be paid back to the creditors of the old company.

Regards

Simon

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Old 14 April 2004, 12:19 PM
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Some top quotes going back and forth, almost entertaining, however my initial question was about claiming on the insurance. Has anyone sucessfully claimed on their insurance for a similar loss? Or as I entered into an agreement with the garage willingly i.e. I instructed them to carry out the tasks which have lead to the car being off the road them I'm buggered.

I had a call from one of the horses this morning and this is straight from his mouth. Although Craig ruined the headgasket it was as a result of using the same one whilst having the engine apart three times, not best practice, but apparently under management orders.
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Originally Posted by webmaster
With regard to the thread which has been reported as being a "praise scoobysport" thread. Please read my post in that carefully.. It was there in recognition of what Pete actually did. Regardless of what has happened (and there's no question, any bankrupcy, etc is going to cause huge problems, and upset) pete did usher in an era of scooby modifications. It was this achievement and his support of the community that all of the people who posted (notice, I only posted one comment) were "praising".
Simon
Disagree your webness, whatever Pete Croney did for the good of the Impreza he did, and what is now is not something that should be blatantly exhibited on this board where people who are at a loss can see.

You say you posted once, how odd, I read more. I also read the deletions before you got to them, hardly fair really hey?

Your timing was rank, "hail Croney" should have appeared only when everybody caught up in this had been sorted.
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Originally Posted by uk95scooby
I seem to remember a post saying " End of an era" Scoobysport ceased trading today.....

Great post ! not !

*Edited to remove liabel content*
That was me, don't shoot the messenger!
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