Dark Blue Mark

And the insurance is slightly less than the Sti too

MB

Dark Blue Mark

And you can run a Honda on NUL

MB

SiDHEaD

I'm currently doing 400+ miles a week! Ok i take it very easy, but i daren't work out how much i spend!

bloke

I've owned 2 scoobs and now have an S2000...

For my mix of back road and motorway driving it returns low 20's mpg, bit like a scoob really, maybe slightly better but not much. And it most definitely does drink SUL - NUL is emergency use only.

Insurance is a bit cheaper than the scoobs, servicing about the same, depreciation better.

All in all, if you buy one after a scoob to save money I think you might be a bit disappointed. Maybe an Elise if you really need to save and have fun , mid 30s MPG on NUL...

Oh, and the bit about turning fit girls heads is definitely true

Dark Blue Mark

Depends what scob you're talking about. Ive owned UK's and an Sti. The STi drinks fuel whatever you do with it, and cant get over 200 miles a tank. UK ca, I could get nearly 300 if I took it easy...

SiD, take a look at your bank statements It hurts!

MB

bloke

MB,

I used to get around 210 miles to a refill in the scoobs, a little bit more in the S2000. Pretty much the same amount of fuel to fill up.

My point is I really don't think in terms of running costs the S2000 is *significantly* better than a scoob.

For me the real wallet drainer for scoobs was modding the things...the S2000 already has the nuts tuned off it as standard so not much point in modding them short of going supercharged...

Whatever, get one

Dark Blue Mark

I went on S2ki a while back and asked the question. General response I got was:

£35 to fill up with optimax.
300 miles from a tank on motorway (light footed)
220 driving very hard

My STi costs:
£42 to fill with Opti
200 miles whatever I do!

Agree, got to get one whatever

MB

dij

Only problem with S2K's is the first ones had teething problems ie srs system,gearbox,clutches ,and IIRC some had a problem with the electronic steering racks.
IIRC the later models dont rev upto 9kanymore and there is a 5 speed box instead of 6.

In the last 4 years Ive only heard of 2 engines failing in these cars,1 from reving at 9k after starting and the other from a person putting water into the top of the engine.
Scoobys I hear of 3 a week(6 I counted a few weeks ago).


Superb cars in every way.Only one complaint is no ash tray or cigarette lighter,and you cant fit more than 1 fit girl in at a time (ill settle for 1).

Dracoro

Clutches - Many people had clutches making a buzzing sound between 3/4krpm and Honda would replace with uprated clutch (same as MY02 onwards)
Gearbox - the odd synchro problem but again no problem with warranty claim
srs system - not heard of any problems with this
steering racks - not heard of any problems with this either
It seems that any problems (clutch/gearbox etc.) show themselves early on (usually only on pre MY02's) in the cars life and get sorted quickly under warranty so by now they should be sorted. Obviously check before you buy!

ALL UK cars rev up to 9000rpm. There is a new 2.2 for sale in the U.S that produces a bit more torque (same bhp tho) and that redlines at 8000rpm.
NO S2000's come with 5 speed boxes, all come with 6 speed 'box.

The S2000 has a rev limiter set while the engine is cold. Until it is somewhat warm you can only rev up to 7000rpm.

Up to 9,000 miles the S2000 can use up a fair bit of oil (service schedule says to use mineral oil for 1st 9000 and fully synth from then on) and the only engines I'd heard going bang are those that let the car run with no oil. This happened to VBH!! Mine used a fair bit of oil up to 10,000 miles and after that used hardly any. This seems to be the experience of most people. Anyway, it's not difficult to check the oil in any car every now and again is it.

Yup fantastic cars! BTW it DOES have an ashtray and a electric socket but no lighter plugged in.

Dan J

Just to add my bit I love these cars too though never driven one as yet. I currently have a MY00 but came from the classic CRX VTEC so have a love for those engines! Hondas should always be a reliable car to own and run. The insurance is pretty high on them though and I hear this is cos a fair few haven't managed to stay on the road too long! My friend who works in the service dept at my local Honda says he's seen quite a lot of people that have lost the back of them but shouldn't be a problem in capable hands.

How do you guys on here that have them find the handling of them? Are they as tail happy as some rumours have it?

Dracoro

I found the handling to be fantastic. Can be more 'interesting' in the wet though. But what car with dry tyres, no traction control and 240 horses through the back wheels isn't!!!! Like you say, if you're a capable driver it shouldn't be a problem. Most those that have crashed tend to be drivers coming up from FWD or 4WD cars expecting them to handle in the same way. If you're new to RWD take it easy, learn how rwd cars work, do a track or academy day if poss, and gradually learn to go faster in the twisties.

On track, driven well, it will be faster than most scoobs. The last day at the track I was going through the corners faster than most except caterhams, gt3's, nobles, higher powered elises/vx220's and radicals. On track the S2000 really is very fast, fantastic braking and very good high speed cornering.

Dark Blue Mark

Im sold

The search begins....

MB

st/EVO

the s2000 is a great car i had one of the first in the country, i was on the waiting list for a year, if my gf hadnt had a baby i would still have it.
the sound it makes when the vtec kicks in is awesome sounds like a touring car, and the best thing about them is they eat boxsters even the s
i didnt find it too tail happy well not compared to the m3 evo i drive now, but i have seen 2 or 3 that have been in ditches and smashed up at the side of the road
you have to slow any rwd car in the wet like a bike you just cant push them when it is wet and slippery.
if i could afford to run 2 cars i would have another 1 tomorrow

bloke

The standard fit Bridgestones really are very poor in the wet. If it's an all year around car Goodyear Eagle F1s are *much* better in the wet for a slight loss of dry grip.

They are tail happy, it's true. The thing that catches people out is that most cars understeer first whereas there is no such warning with the S. Many people then over-correct, resulting in the car fish-tailing, usually with disastrous consequences. Also of course, if the VTEC kicks in mid-bend, then that is a BIG surge in power for the rear wheels to cope with.

Later cars are more benign in setup and Honda have issued revised geo settings for earlier cars to make them more friendly.

Personally, I have an earlier car and like it setup just the way it is ...huge sideways fun on the track

SiDHEaD

Grrr i want

stormyuklondon1

just my pennorth worth..............I LOVE EM!! took one round the track at bedford and fell in love with it. wanted a new one, but found i couldnt afford it so i settled for a civic type r. if you can, go for it!