I agree with Simon Lau,

sounds like its a done and dusted affair for them. To be in so much **** and not come begging and pleading to you does seem to speak volumes.

Either they are completly stupid or they really dont want you back!

The whole situation is preposterous in the extreme.
You really need some legal advice as it looks like you could take these jokers to the cleaners!!!!

Then take your story to the Sun, they'll just lap it up and your company would suffer untold bad publicity. (What do they do by way!!???)

You've done nothing wrong, sounds like you're excellent at your job and you wont have any probs finding new employment!!

Good Luck!

 

Morning,

Er tbh they have been trying to get hold of me on my mobile yesterday, had 20+ missed calls from 10:30 onwards... However I was bed ridden with sickness & worry.

However I sent a note in the day before saying that the only communication I will accept is concerning my employment,in writing only.....
No post as of yet, they still hav'nt returned my personal property even though I have sent in receipts for items purchased

Thanks again for everyones kind comments, will post again when I get some more info

Cheers

 

Good luck fella! You sound like a clever chap who will be a good asset to another company

 

why are you refusing to speak to them? could this possibly harm your defence later on?

(i.e. "we treid to contact the employee but he refused to speak to us, therefore we assumed that he was unavailable for work")

 

If I were you I would have answered the calls and when they asked for help say "sorry, I'm suspended, I can't help you"

 

sti555 has been suspended from his duties. Therefore whilst he is still suspended he is not allowed/obligated to help the firm dig themselves out of the crapola. Plus his company appear to have been strict on him complying to the suspension when it suits them, so he cannot be blamed when he is equally strict by refusing to discuss work issues whilst suspended.

Admittedly sti555 won't be currying any favour with the stance he's taken, but sti555 I fully support what you have done.

 

LOL Let 'em sweat the cheeky *******

 

STi555, Don't know you, but NO - ONE deserves this,. they way they have treated you is disgusting. You sound like you'll do fine and get respected elsewhere. IMHO you done what ANY human would have done. Good luck with what ever happens, and at the end of the day, they may have done you a favour. My last company started treating me like crap, I left, doubled my salary and LOVE my new job BIG time.

Good luck and chin up.

 

Oscar,

I'm not withholding any information from them, whilst I'm on suspension they should not be contacting me about any other business issues.

It's not my responsibility to cover there backs whilst I'm off, Prior to this I was actually arranging to document my work as you have described, ultimately it's down to the MD to delegate to protect the business & operations & plan accordingly for my or any other employees absence.




However under normal circumstances I would'nt mind at all & would co-operate fully with any failover plan.

Bravo,

Have txt my boss this morning explaining I'm ill & just tried to call an hour ago but no answer....

f1,

Ummn just hope my situation sorts itself out just as well

Cheers

 

Ok update:

Have now recieved a letter from my employer, Disciplinary Interview on Tues the 27th 10:30..

To answer the original allegation & also theft of computer passwords..

ummmn, more details to follow..

 

theft of passwords?!?! what did they want you to do............leave your brain in a jar on your desk!

 

lol!, gonna use that in my interview mate, I'm fecked anyway

 

that does not compute! (joke...........:rolleyes)

....errrrmmmmm didn't they stand over you making sure you didn't take anything that didn't belong to you whilst yer *** was being unofficially fired??? I can't remember but have you mentioned anywhere on this thread that your employers asked you for the passwords or for your help? but if they have you need to be careful about this part. Also have you told anyone in the office they you would not give the passwords back for any reason???


Do you have a doctor's note or a reliable witness? (they'd ask for this if it went to the courts/tribunal or even on Tuesday)


This was smart and now stands in your favour because you have made an attempt to contact your employer through your letter to try "put things right" and hence this current letter received from your employers. They will obviously word things how they want on Tuesday by saying "We tried to contact you"... with those 20 calls.

Prepare yourself now and log all the terms of events in your head or take notes and use them in the hearing if necessary!

Good luck and roll on Tuesday ..!!

PS. If you have some kind of voice recorder use it if you are not allowed to bring anyone in the hearing as a witness as it could come in useful in the future!

 

Sounds like they definately want rid of you... after they get their passwords of course.

Hope you're keeping a log of events and you've got legal advice. If not, do so - you need to know exactly where you stand.

Bonkers.

 

Morning
Here is my draft statement regarding the 'Theft' of company passwords:

Response for Allegation of theft of company property
• Best practise has been observed in the handling of data and logins, usernames and passwords were NEVER left unattended in the office.
• Post it notes were used to store the rolling admin codes as they were rarely used at least one of the two servers was always online. Logon information was deliberately obscure, and therefore not memorable. As Person A and Person B waited for me to logoff and secure the servers, again best practise, I explained it would take a few minutes for this to complete. During this wait I turned on fans to cool important equipment to prevent overheating, thus avoiding any hardware and network failure in my absence.
• The post it notes and associated paperwork containing WEP keys, ADSL logons, Domain logons, IP details, routers, access points, switchs and data backups were always held securely off site to comply with best practise to minimise data loss in the event of theft or fire. On the day I was asked to leave the building however, they were on my desk as I was carrying out essential server maintenance and was using them as normal. I also asked Person A if I could organise a backup before my departure, however she refused to allow me to reload media and secure any articles of paperwork Person A assured me she would undertake FULL responsibility for removing them and locking them up. I can only assume that she either inadvertently disposed of these papers or failed to lock them up and they were subsequently cleaned away. Therefore the situation whereby ***** has locked itself out of its own systems is as a direct result of their failing to listen to my advice and stubbornly insisting that I leave equipment and information in an unsafe condition. Please note I was actively blocked from completing failsafe best practises with regards file backups again in the presence of Person A and Person B, Person A replied “It doesn’t matter, don’t worry about that, I’ll sort that out”
• I have in no way attempted to withhold intellectual property from *****. Any loss of key information has come about through carelessness on the part of **** Management. I even offered during a telephone call on the 20th of April to come on-site without delay to assist finding them. I was told “this would not be necessary”
• May I also point out I have to date not been asked for any logon information for web or FTP servers as stated in your letter dated 22nd April 2004

 

good one....go kick some ***!

...the last one is the killer!

 

Please tell us you've seen a solicitor!!!!!!??????

Seriously, i dont think i've read it in any of your posts. You've got a very strong case, but a good solicitor can make it water tight!!!!!

you could walk away with major £££££££s for this and you'd certainly deserve it!!

SORT IT TODAY!!!

 

I'll second that, GET A LAWYER, otherwise they'll try and run rings round you in the meeting.

Brian

 

Simon, thankyou, did'nt really sleep to well last night, kept waking up writing bits down, the other statement is coming along nicely...

Frenchboy,

Gonna sort out solicitor at 9:00 and try & have a consultation today, not really the best time financially though for me tbh gonna have to sell my cat

Anyway thanks again for all the replys, been very helpfull.

Keep you posted

 

Update..

Booked in at 14:00 this afternoon

 

Thats good news.

Good luck!

 

This is better than Judge Judy ,keep it coming.lol
SERIOUSLY,good luck mate.

mac.

 

Ok, Now we can start the "Help Tim Legal Fund"

Just got a statement from the police officer present

"one of the children (Chavs) was crying otherwise the situation was calm"

"I cannot remember or not if Tim was swearing"

This totally contridicts the Tosh the employees have written in their statements..

ps. Judge Judy is great, been watching over the last couple of weeks



Oh I'm Tim btw

 

I have been on the opposite side of the fence in this situation where an employee was basically taking backhhanders and misrepresenting the company and because her immediate boss made the stupid mistake of alienating her (some would say for good reason) and calling her names behind her back she countersued for constructive dismissal.

We got away lightly because basically her solicitor cocked the whole thing up and his submission was a joke and we also found alot more incrimnating evidence of her backhanders and downright deceit because the moment she walked out in a temper the locks were changed on her sales office and she got a big shock when she came back to remove some incriminating evidence.

Even so she still walked away with a few grand in compensation so compared to my own experience with a genuinley dishonest employee you should be able to take your's to the cleaners

glad youv'e now got representation as it was down to our soilicitors perseverance and attention to detail (expensive though it was) that costs with regard to compensation was settled out of court for alot less than his actual fees.


oh i forgot to add
<jerry springer audience mode on>

GO TIM

GO TIM

GO TIM

<jerry springer audience mode off>

 

oh sorry tim re my last post didnt mean to imply that the cases were THAT similair. ie with regard to backhanders and dishonesty.
Just the constructive dismissal part i thnk you would probably heve been promoted and given a medal if you worked here

 

My wife was in a situation a few years ago whereby she was accused of various misdemeanours of which she was completely innocent and was busted down to a junior management position.

Ultimately, all ended well as we employed the services of a very clever brief who specialised in employment law resulting in a handsome pay out on the basis that the company constructively dismissed her.

Obviously, get a lawyer. Hopefully, the one that was recommended in an earlier post and then make sure that you write everything down as it happens in a factual way no matter how irrelevan it seems.

Good luck.