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Old 06 April 2004, 12:11 PM
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Obviously the people that burn the flags support the terrorists they are forthright with telling us this as well
In the same way that voting for the BNP shows us that they support their racist policies?
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Old 06 April 2004, 12:12 PM
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Anyway PP, as I was saying, do you consider me British?
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In the same way that voting for the BNP shows us that they support their racist policies?
Yes but i'n not living in their country
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Old 06 April 2004, 12:14 PM
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Why do we have a flag anyway??? soon as well we don't have an identity any more since we are a multi racial country. What a load of bull
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Old 06 April 2004, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by farmer1
Why do we have a flag anyway??? soon as well we don't have an identity any more since we are a multi racial country. What a load of bull
Thats a good point.
If we did'nt have a flag they would have to find something else British to burn

maybe a pair of Reebock trainers or something
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Old 06 April 2004, 12:25 PM
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Did any one see that BBC1 programme last night at 7.30 pm?
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Old 06 April 2004, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by r32
Did any one see that BBC1 programme last night at 7.30 pm?
Yep; the bloke in the car was stunning, "I will be most upset If I am not a martyr by the time I am 40" after that performance on national TV, I think his dream may come true sooner rather than later! Oh and how gracious of the militant muslims to not want to blow British peeps with their organisation but they werent against other non British terrorists coming over here and doing the deed- If it wasnt meant to be serious I would have rated it as a top comedy program........
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Old 06 April 2004, 12:32 PM
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I think "British" people tend to get a bit offended these days when you can go into an area of most cities now and feel in the minority. I have no problem with any colour. I do however think that anyone living in Britain should fit in with the British culture and not try and setup their country in our country.
All imho
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Old 06 April 2004, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Geddon
I do however think that anyone living in Britain should fit in with the British culture and not try and setup their country in our country.
Totally agree. And I wish the Brits living here in Portugal wouldn't demand information in English from the local authorities, wish that the shopkeepers would learn English, complain about the Portuguese all the time, ask for egg and chips at the cafes, and make a similar effort to fit in.

The aspects that people complain about non-Brits in the UK are also quite common when Brits go abroad, I can tell you. How many Brits going to Saudi Arabia for massive wonga are happy to do without alcohol for 3 years?
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Geddon
I do however think that anyone living in Britain should fit in with the British culture and not try and setup their country in our country.
Let's just call it reverse colonialism. What goes around comes around. Did any British colonist ever try to blend in with the locals and fit in with their culture? Not bloody likely.

I think multi-culturism can work and indeed is beneficial to the host culture up to a certain point. You Britishers are being loving the delicious juicy curries are you not?

Question is where to draw the line? Where I live a local secondary school Head decided it would be a good idea to make Turkish compulsory for all students because a minority of students were from that background. Un-fking-believable, but actually the Dutch central Govt couldn't even stop them from doing this, but did threaten to review their funding the following year. The idea was quickly dropped of course.

Multi-culturalism works but limits need to be set. If the immigrants are doing something that fundamentally contradicts the local culture, then they need to be stopped. Burn the flag and go to jail (and hopefully get a good beating there too).

Wet liberals who advocate tolerance of everything are causing a backlash that benefits extremeists such as the BNP. All very much IMHO of course

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P.S. Think I did really well not to mention the muslims in all that!
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:09 PM
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Must admit it's true, us Brits are as bad as any others...

My family have just bought some accomodation in Spain, I tagged along on some of the visits to some of the places and noticed that their are colonies of Brits such as Torrevieja (all flippin' Arsenal fans too ) which are very similar to the little Indias and Chinas we get in this country.

For the record we were after somewhere AWAY from the Brits - that's the whole point of moving....last thing we want is some loud mouth Arsenal fan living next door to me in Spain

Unfortunately my French is better than my Spanish, which is not saying much - but at least I'm learning it, which says alot more for some people in this country (UK - before we get mixed up ).

What gets me is that the Government harps on that it needs immigration to fill all the job vacancies. What gets me though is what appears to be the severe lack of jobs for the people already in this country. To me it seems as an excuse to provide the large non-UK corperations which are based in the UK with a cheap labour force.

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Old 06 April 2004, 01:29 PM
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Incidentally I wasn't born here. My parents were born here, I've got a british passport, I've lived here ever since I was 1 year old but do you still consider me british because I wasn't born here?
Then you are a British Citizen to be a pedant. Britain is not however, a country, it is a group of countries. Personally I am English as that is where I was bourn. You can be bourn in outer Mongolia for all I care, that would just make you Outer Mongolian and a British Citizen.
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:30 PM
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i see double standards here

bnp leaders and activists are ex national front and still a part of the c-18 some of them

so why cant muslims support a extremist islamic party who will stand up for muslims

coz those c-18 surely kill coloureds and bomb them with petrol bombs and homes and area;s


i see double standards guys if u guys are allowed to support the bnp their should be other extremist parties for the coloureds in power too

do we agree


by the way i spoke to nick griffin a few times, nice person thats cause he tries to be a snidey b@$£%$ but u can get a good talk with him, i like talking
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:35 PM
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Immigration plays a big part with everyones gripes, there is a flaw in the policy.

If you are an immigrant in this country, there should be a list of things you need to do to stay, maybe something on the lines of, in 6 months you will be able to speak english, have full time employment and be able to support yourselves.

No way in the world should the british men that went off to fight against the US and UK should they be allowed back, that is treason still punishable by the death penalty.

This is all imho, I do not see myself as a racist at all.
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:39 PM
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fitz dude majority of them were already their long time before the usa and uk

we had a massive arguement about it already , ask the cwe vets


wha do u want those british men to do if they were their already and if the british soldiers were pointing a gun at them to kill them, u want them to say ok brother shoot me im british or first thing comes to your mind is save yourself and shoot, u leave them no choice and the usa and uk shouldnt have been their

its not their country

thats all i have to say coz we had a massive arguement but debates have gone out of me recently
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Originally Posted by moses
i see double standards here

bnp leaders and activists are ex national front and still a part of the c-18 some of them

so why cant muslims support a extremist islamic party who will stand up for muslims

coz those c-18 surely kill coloureds and bomb them with petrol bombs and homes and area;s


i see double standards guys if u guys are allowed to support the bnp their should be other extremist parties for the coloureds in power too

do we agree


by the way i spoke to nick griffin a few times, nice person thats cause he tries to be a snidey b@$£%$ but u can get a good talk with him, i like talking

Not in our country mate.
They get our houses Our pensions our benefits and our NHS.
They should support England or get out!!!
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
fitz dude majority of them were already their long time before the usa and uk

we had a massive arguement about it already , ask the cwe vets


wha do u want those british men to do if they were their already and if the british soldiers were pointing a gun at them to kill them, u want them to say ok brother shoot me im british or first thing comes to your mind is save yourself and shoot, u leave them no choice and the usa and uk shouldnt have been their

its not their country

thats all i have to say coz we had a massive arguement but debates have gone out of me recently

sorry must have missed that one, although i do tend to shy away from controversial topics like this, as they can get overheated quickly
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yes i agree im the proof of heat


nice to meet u im fuhrer moses the mujahid of the end of days
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:42 PM
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i see double standards guys if u guys are allowed to support the bnp their should be other extremist parties for the coloureds in power too
That would be sure to go down well if a group of white British people tried to form an extremist group in say Pakistan
Why do you think it should be allowed in Britain? If People from other parts of the world want to live here, have the decency to live as the brits do and stop making ridiculous demands.

I could rant on all day about my views on comments like this but i wont because a) i dont have time and b) it will fall on deaf ears.
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Dave
Not in our country mate.
They get our houses Our pensions our benefits and our NHS.
They should support England or get out!!!
Spot on Dave
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my CELERY i do know your views

yes british muslims are a part of this country so if the whiteman can have a party so can the muslim and a extremist one at that, who else will protect us from the ****'s


by the way one of the extremist party guys once said to me how much they care about the muslim brethren, i said hmm thats alot of sh1te, u can brainwash our brothers but u cant go and do something about c-18 and bnp

i sometimes think they work together
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nope this aint your country
this is the country of all of us

made on the backs of my ancestors, the indians, arabs and our treasures your ancestors milked from ancestral land, your queen wears the jewels of our indian ancestors, aint that right akhsay


this is OUR COUNTRY TO and get used to it
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Old 06 April 2004, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
nope this aint your country
this is the country of all of us

made on the backs of my ancestors, the indians, arabs and our treasures your ancestors milked from ancestral land, your queen wears the jewels of our indian ancestors, aint that right akhsay


this is OUR COUNTRY TO and get used to it
I think your getting confused what you mean is.
You act like its your country!
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LOL
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I don't have a problem with any political party, BNP, Sein Fein, Extremist Muslim or any other religion if you like, I do have a problem with Al Quaeda, the IRA and the other behind the scenes organisations that try and force things by violent means. If you want to express your views (whatever they may be) and put yourself up for office then if the public support you fine, if they don't fine, but don't put the threat of violence out there.
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Some BNP quotes taken from various public hate meetings of theirs:

"Defend Rights for Whites with well-directed boots and fists"

"When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate ... It is more important to control the streets of a city than its council chamber."

Sounds like a bunch of ***** to me. Call a spade a spade, I might have some respect for them (probably not) if they admitted what their true agenda actually is. Instead they hide behind a very thin veneer of respectability and pander to the worst, most base of human instincts. Actually scum is too good a word for them and their supporters.

I defend absolutely their right to exist and equally my right to despise them for their beliefs.

See here about what kind of man stands for them in Liverpool

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0...17&method=full
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Old 06 April 2004, 02:05 PM
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"Instead they hide behind a very thin veneer of respectability and pander to the worst, most base of human instincts. Actually scum is too good a word for them and their supporters."

Not to dis-similar to The Sun then!
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Old 06 April 2004, 02:08 PM
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8 months for sending some razor blades??? Fek at £5 a pack he can send me razor blades as often as he likes.
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How about if he disguised them in something that your children (if you had any)might open?

How about the many documented cases of **** being posted through the doors of non-white families, desecration of jewish graves, attacks on mosques and the many attacks on people in the street whos only crime was to be the wrong colour/sexual orientation or holding the 'wrong' beliefs.

The BNP supports all these activities by the backdoor if not openly, as evidenced by the criminal records of many of their activists.

I reckon a fight back is in order, how about it? Decent people of all creeds and races against the hate filled scum whoever they may be BNP, terrorists etc etc.
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Nacro you are the worst kind

living in your chateau, sipping your vino and condemning the poor for being up in arms about the refugee housing policies

get in the real world NIMBY man

you make me sick

case dismissed....NEXT!!!!!!!!
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