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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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also ordered the solid rear drop links today, so will get the roll bars done while it's up on axle stands
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by flat4
i think we can remove the theory that the clutch was contaminated with oil





i hearby declare it fubar'd




nice collection of clutch material



it's only the flywheel side that's knackered, the other side isn't as bad, still worn out but not to the extent of having no material left whatsoever, luckily the flywheel hasn't been scored by the bare rivets
Bloody hell

Kev are you going to be able to get a new one under warranty

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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Exact same thing happened to my 911 years ago. Clutch was about 1000 miles in to, and was a top quality Porsche OEM supplier. Happened directly after a blisteringly fast start and 3 gear changes in front of a packed crowd at a hill climb...Porsche reliability!

Several rivits sheared not worn. Cover plate was fine but i changed it anyway. That clutch is still in the car after 5 years or more, same make.

Least the flywheel is ok.

Kev: My friend has just bought his Smart for converting to hill climb racer spec

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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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holly cow Kev!! no wonder it was slipping!!!!

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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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well, it probably wasn't that bad when it started slipping, probably killed it trying to cover 200 miles in the yorkshire moors....


well, new clutch is in, but i'm having problems bad clutch judder, never had it before, probably the flywheel not being in the best of nick, huge vibration through the pedal which gets worse if (and i say, if) i try to engage a gear, it just won't go into gear, takes a huge amount of force to get it in, then when it does the bitting point is at the very bottom of the pedal (i have overfilled the gearbox again by an inch which i need to sort out before i drive it anywhere)

is this normal? never had this with any other clutch i've fitted
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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does not sound normal to me

sounds like your going to have to take it all back apart again mate
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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I had similar problems with my new clutch but without the judder.
However I had upgraded from 225mm to 230mm clutch. The flywheel had been skimmed to suit the new larger clutch.
My biting point was just too low, so tried bleeding the system again which hardly made a difference, then I stretched the spring in the slave cylinder, re-bleed the system. This made a slight improvement but found myself helping the clutch pedal back up with my foot from time to time.
Eventually I adjusted the the clutch pedal by one turn, this bought the biting point higher up. I had no more difficutly engaging gears or pedal stuck to the floor.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Possible you boiled the fluid with the previous clutch??

Also worth adjusting the pedal to master cylinder rod as mentioned.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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yep, on my list of things to do tonite, clutch fluid level was well below the min. level

strange that the gearbox feels fine when the engine isn't running, second it is, i can't get gears easily
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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That is a good sign as it is the clutch only.
I do NOT mean to insult you Kev, but you did put the friction plate in the right side to the flywheel?
You did get the clutch release arm fork into the thrust bearing tabs and not hard against them?
I've changed a few clutches over my time and having these issues is not normal.

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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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friction plate is as the top picture on this page (if this is wrong i will jump off a cliff ) release arm was located into the tabs just before the clutch housing closed up, i double checked but it's a pain to really tell apart from the feel of the clutch pedal which feels like it's releasing ok, i was just worried about how low the bitting point is on the pedal and if that has anything to do with it, gearbox has Esso top grade oil in it till i can get some redline, wondering if it's this to blame for the gear change (didn't think it would be affected tht badly to pootle around in )
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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I have only known oil to be a real issue on my 911 box in very COLD weather where the viscosity was such that the gear could not be selected/changed without a hard shove on the lever.
Using the correct Porsche spec Shell oil was an instant cure. Still in the box to this day.
My AP organic friction plate had 'Flywheel side' stamped onto it, but on an impreza assy, I don't think you can actually assemble the cover over the plate due to the offset centre boss hitting the f/wheel.

Cannot think why you are having all this bloody grief.

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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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That plate does look like it was contaminated with oil.

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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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it's a strange one, there was no sign of oil anywhere in the clutch housing or around the flywheel, anyway, sorted it, adjusted the pedal last night (had to extend the rod to it's limits to get the bitting point up and now i can get it into gear, vibration is still there but thats to be expected with the new clutch and old flywheel
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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drained the excess oil from the gearbox last night, so it was a smidge over the max mark this time gearbox feels better than before now
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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also fitted the anti-roll bars & solid rear drop links last night, piece of **** if it wasn't for me putting the front one on wrong on the first attempt had a quick blast in it but nothing to draw any conclusions from just yet, did feel alot more planted around corners with no noticeable understeer for saying i put the front bar on aswell

clutch pedal still vibrates a bit but it's not worrying me too much, 1,000 miles later then i might have a rethink
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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well, popped round to my mates to do some tiling last night, still some vibration through the pedal, couple of mins into my drive and the clutch pedals goes to the floor, flip it back up and now the vibration has dissapeared and the biting point has come right up not complaining like, just need to adjust the pedal back again
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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sounds like you had air bubbles in the clutch fluid?
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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odd, because i completely bleed the system, doesn't explain why the vibration just dissapeared though


think i'll just leave it alone now got the back end nicely stepping out on the way back last night in the pouring rain, that'll be the stiffer ARBs then
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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Kev, good to see everything is getting sorted

Shame you can't make it to Wales this year Won't be the same with all your 'tales' round the camp fire
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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always seems to be something getting in the way of me coming every year


covered a few hundred miles this weekend, faultless
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Kev, good to see everything is getting sorted

Shame you can't make it to Wales this year Won't be the same with all your 'tales' round the camp fire
Dave, dont think kevs car will make it to wales
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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What he^^^ said <nods>
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Dave, dont think kevs car will make it to wales
True,

I recall last year that he hadn't travelled too far down the A50 before he started pulling bits off to cure some overheating problems!

One day Kev will have a reliable car
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Just to prove we made it to Snowdonia (via a minor detour of around 20 miles )


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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Great thread, a fantastic distraction from the stream of unpleasant news in C London. It makes me want to learn how to pick up some tools and actually understand what lies beneath the bonnet!

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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i'm thinking of spraying the bonnet white
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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I think if it were my car I would have to spray it white, but only because it would attract too much attention where I park / drive..

but looks wise I quite like it..

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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it was more the fact that it looks crap, not being lacquered makes it look really dull
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