Notices
Projects For Serious DIY Car Projects

HYBRID FMIC FITTING

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 18 May 2004, 03:54 PM
  #121  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by markwild
Drexel,



Thanks for the pics mate - I didn't join the two holes in the O/S wing - just enlarged the front one slightly

Also, MOST pleased to see that you've had to cut the bumper around the bottom of the O/S driving lamp position - thought it was just me !

The vertical pipe between the radiator cowling and engine front touches the cowling on mine, did you have any probs ? Also, I think that the N/S pipe (the one with the DV on it) is touching the underside of the bonnet, so I think I may need to loosen it and try to push it down a bit further at the front...

Ta,

Mark

PS _ Why did you need the red Samco hose ?
Yeah that was weird, the hose supplied didn't fit the inlet manifold as it's a larger diameter to the I/C pipe, so I had to use the samco on top of the supplied hose to make it fit. I'm sure it's all airtight now though.

I have the same problem with the pipe touching the bonnet, I can't put it any lower because its touching the corner of the battery. I'm thinking of finding a battery that is not quite as tall and trying that.

The vertical pipe is very tight, but I had no real problems with it.

As for the holes in the wing, the pipe wanted to come through right between them both, hence the need to join them up.

Last edited by DreXeL; 18 May 2004 at 03:59 PM.
Old 18 May 2004, 03:56 PM
  #122  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Houghton
Funny that, me too
Ahh, so I take it you are the guy we are meeting up with on thursday?
Old 18 May 2004, 04:07 PM
  #123  
AndrewC
Scooby Regular
 
AndrewC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2,209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by markwild
Drexel,

Thanks for the pics mate - I didn't join the two holes in the O/S wing - just enlarged the front one slightly

Also, MOST pleased to see that you've had to cut the bumper around the bottom of the O/S driving lamp position - thought it was just me !

The vertical pipe between the radiator cowling and engine front touches the cowling on mine, did you have any probs ? Also, I think that the N/S pipe (the one with the DV on it) is touching the underside of the bonnet, so I think I may need to loosen it and try to push it down a bit further at the front...

Ta,

Mark

PS _ Why did you need the red Samco hose ?
Interesting, I manage to fit mine without cutting the inner wing, but had to loosen the outer wing to get the pipe in (instructions say remove it completely).

After a few weeks running with the pipe touching the fan cowling I moved the fan over to the other side of the rad, it's an easy job and makes more room to get the pipe to the TB much lower and further from the battery / bonnet

The silicone hose from the last pipe to the TB will go on, it just needs some persuasion

I have lagged the pipe from the compressor all the way to the inner wing which has helped the temps in the filter considerably.

PIAAs will fit but require cutting of the foglamp backplates and I flattened the intercooler pipe a little also .

Andrew...
Old 18 May 2004, 04:09 PM
  #124  
Houghton
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Houghton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DreXeL
Ahh, so I take it you are the guy we are meeting up with on thursday?
That's right. It'll be a busy day for Andy.

Look forward to meeting you and maybe compare FMICs
Old 18 May 2004, 04:11 PM
  #125  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AndrewC
Interesting, I manage to fit mine without cutting the inner wing, but had to loosen the outer wing to get the pipe in (instructions say remove it completely).

After a few weeks running with the pipe touching the fan cowling I moved the fan over to the other side of the rad, it's an easy job and makes more room to get the pipe to the TB much lower and further from the battery / bonnet

The silicone hose from the last pipe to the TB will go on, it just needs some persuasion

I have lagged the pipe from the compressor all the way to the inner wing which has helped the temps in the filter considerably.

PIAAs will fit but require cutting of the foglamp backplates and I flattened the intercooler pipe a little also .

Andrew...
Yeah, my PIAAs are back on now, as you say the backplate required a fair bit of 'modifcation'.
Old 18 May 2004, 04:14 PM
  #126  
markwild
Scooby Regular
 
markwild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Staffs. UK
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

hmm - I can't move the rad - I've aircon, so 2 fans.. I've thought about lagging it, as I've already lagged the D/P....

PIAAs will have to fit soon, cos Jayne thinks it looks crap without them (2 big holes)...

what have 'you' (the royal) done regarding the TMIC scoop ? - I took the metal part off the underside of the bonnet - but now I'm concerned about water landing on a hot turbo, so may put it back on - at least its some protection (Though I'm going to remove the rubber skirt, as it touches the new pipework)

Mark
Old 18 May 2004, 04:14 PM
  #127  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Houghton
That's right. It'll be a busy day for Andy.

Look forward to meeting you and maybe compare FMICs
Yeah, looking forward to it too mate, it'll be interesting comparing the FMICs. but don't take the p!ss out of my filthy engine
Old 18 May 2004, 04:16 PM
  #128  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by markwild
hmm - I can't move the rad - I've aircon, so 2 fans.. I've thought about lagging it, as I've already lagged the D/P....

PIAAs will have to fit soon, cos Jayne thinks it looks crap without them (2 big holes)...

what have 'you' (the royal) done regarding the TMIC scoop ? - I took the metal part off the underside of the bonnet - but now I'm concerned about water landing on a hot turbo, so may put it back on - at least its some protection (Though I'm going to remove the rubber skirt, as it touches the new pipework)

Mark
I'm probably going to blank the scoop off under the bonnet.
Old 18 May 2004, 09:39 PM
  #129  
markwild
Scooby Regular
 
markwild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Staffs. UK
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

PIAAs re-fitted

'hmm-slight-hmm' adjustment of the O/S bracket

Mark
Old 18 May 2004, 10:08 PM
  #130  
Houghton
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Houghton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DreXeL
but don't take the p!ss out of my filthy engine
Why not? That way we can take the pi$$ out of each other's filthy engines

See you Thursday.
Old 18 May 2004, 10:28 PM
  #131  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Houghton
Why not? That way we can take the pi$$ out of each other's filthy engines

See you Thursday.
LOL, that's the problem, the nice shiny I/C piping has shown up what a state the rest of the engine is in
Old 18 May 2004, 11:42 PM
  #132  
AlanG
Scooby Regular
 
AlanG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Have you thought of knocking these out,
Well i did think of it, but of no real use to anybody because of the type of filter and inlet piping i use.
If i had a standardish car available, i could probably make another template and then make copies from there.

Same with the battery cover on the opposite side. If you have a look, you'll see my oil filler cap comes out of the side of the engine and not the front and also my intercooler pipes run round the engine bay whereas the APS intercooler for example runs down the back of the engine and then forward to the front of the car.

Making the battery cover was a doddle. The air box needed a bit more work but now i know what's needed to be done, it should be quicker to make up others, (though not in 15mins though... )

Talking of battery covers, that pic shows the first version. The 2nd version covers the windscreen water tank as well now, so the cap to fill the tank with water pokes through a hole in the cover similar to the oil cap. Only reason for doing the second one was to make the car look *square* under bonnet, so both sides looked even. IYSWIM.

Last edited by AlanG; 18 May 2004 at 11:47 PM.
Old 19 May 2004, 08:36 AM
  #133  
AndrewC
Scooby Regular
 
AndrewC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2,209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I wouldn't block the scoop off, it's a good source of cooling air for the turbo and IC pipework.

Try feeling the pipe to the TB after a hard blast, the section that sits under the scoop is a fair bit cooler than the section that runs over the engine.

Andrew...
Old 19 May 2004, 10:00 AM
  #134  
markwild
Scooby Regular
 
markwild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Staffs. UK
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Andrew, would you recommend leaving the metal underplate on though - To keep the small grille above the turbo, as a water catch ?

Mark...
Old 19 May 2004, 10:04 AM
  #135  
AndrewC
Scooby Regular
 
AndrewC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2,209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have left mine on for now.

Andrew...
Old 19 May 2004, 11:42 AM
  #136  
DeanF
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
DeanF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,808
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have taken my metal plate off all together so the air gets to the intercooler pipes even better, Had to brace the bonnet though between the scoop bolts with some nice aluminium (alloy Bonnet so seems to flex more), this definately helps with a little extra cooling, Even though i have not fitted a Hybrid FMIC, but is is definitely a HYBRID if you know what i mean

Dean

I did start a post about positive pressure from the scoop & had some good replies but as was said , loads of people run with the scoop in place / unblocked , so i would not worry
Old 19 May 2004, 12:07 PM
  #137  
markwild
Scooby Regular
 
markwild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Staffs. UK
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks Dean - its been dry since I fitted the FMIC, so I wondered if anyone had any water issues with the metal plate removed -

Sounds like its OK though.

Cheers, Mark
Old 19 May 2004, 12:34 PM
  #138  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I think I'll leave mine as it is then.
Old 19 May 2004, 02:56 PM
  #139  
markwild
Scooby Regular
 
markwild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Staffs. UK
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What are you guys doing number plate wise ?

I'm considering fastening the plate to the upper face of the splitter - or sticking a white background there with new black letters (WRC style)....
Old 19 May 2004, 03:35 PM
  #140  
DeanF
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
DeanF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,808
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have mine stuck to the STi front splitter white background & full size letters, Got pulled in wales !! on Sat & had a ticking off, Get it sorted Boyo
But the DVLA sight is a bit grey area ish to this

My Hybrid & Plate > http://images.fotopic.net/?id=4317148&outx=482&oq=0
DVLA PLATE INFO > HTTP://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regm...quirements.htm

Dean
Old 19 May 2004, 04:11 PM
  #141  
AlanG
Scooby Regular
 
AlanG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What about this position?

A rear number plate support bracket was used on the front bumper.


Last edited by AlanG; 19 May 2004 at 04:16 PM. Reason: Pic was a bit big!!
Old 19 May 2004, 04:14 PM
  #142  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As I said above I'm not putting mine back on, I'm keeping it in the car with sticky-pads on the back and if I get pulled I'll say it just fell off..............
Old 19 May 2004, 04:22 PM
  #143  
AlanG
Scooby Regular
 
AlanG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As I said above I'm not putting mine back on
Which is fair enough but you take your chances that the cops don't see your car on a regular basis, so that reason won't wash with them.

Is it worth the 30 quid or whatever it is fine for not displaying? I couldn't get away with it round 'ere.

Last edited by AlanG; 19 May 2004 at 04:25 PM.
Old 19 May 2004, 04:37 PM
  #144  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AlanG
Which is fair enough but you take your chances that the cops don't see your car on a regular basis, so that reason won't wash with them.

Is it worth the 30 quid or whatever it is fine for not displaying? I couldn't get away with it round 'ere.
I passed 3 cop cars today, not one gave me a second look. I suppose the excuse will only work once, but I'll take my chances untill they pull me.
Old 19 May 2004, 04:44 PM
  #145  
AlanG
Scooby Regular
 
AlanG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

S'pose having no plate comes in handy with SPECS speed cameras.
Old 19 May 2004, 04:50 PM
  #146  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AlanG
S'pose having no plate comes in handy with SPECS speed cameras.
LOL, that is another advantage
Old 20 May 2004, 12:09 PM
  #147  
markwild
Scooby Regular
 
markwild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Staffs. UK
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just out of interest, what turbo's do you all have ?

I'm still running the original TD04 through mine - together with the standard fuel setup and injectors - I've not noticed any additional lag and the low->mid range seem much better.

Was running 281 bhp at PE when they did the re-map, but I think that the TD04 will have run out of puff at around that ---- Time for a change, methinks....

Mark
Old 20 May 2004, 01:26 PM
  #148  
AndrewC
Scooby Regular
 
AndrewC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2,209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've been using a 75% size plate (in the same position as Alan's) for a couple of months now with no interest from the boys in blue.

I'm running mine with a f/e TD05, not sure about flywheel hp as the Prosport rollers seem to be a bit confused on the day I ran, but was 283ATW which compares well with the 289ATW in dataloglab on the road where the car holds a little more boost, getting close to my 300ATW target

Andrew...
Old 20 May 2004, 02:12 PM
  #149  
markwild
Scooby Regular
 
markwild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Staffs. UK
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

hmm - I think I was a ambiguous there - to clarify, the remap was before the FMIC was fitted...

Andrew - am I correct in thinking that the td04 is f/e too then, as it seems to be the same (in direction) as your f/e td05 ?

Mark
Old 20 May 2004, 06:10 PM
  #150  
DreXeL
Scooby Regular
 
DreXeL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Yate, Bristol
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by markwild
Just out of interest, what turbo's do you all have ?

I'm still running the original TD04 through mine - together with the standard fuel setup and injectors - I've not noticed any additional lag and the low->mid range seem much better.

Was running 281 bhp at PE when they did the re-map, but I think that the TD04 will have run out of puff at around that ---- Time for a change, methinks....

Mark
I'm running a VF34, which would appear to be buggered.


Quick Reply: HYBRID FMIC FITTING



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:56 AM.