Cosworth427

Supra RZ 1/4 mile & trap speeds:

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/fio...yota/supra.htm
http://mkiv.supras.org.nz/articles/hpi2.htm
http://www.toyotasupra.info/toyotasu...ndingstart.htm

Supra Twin Turbo (US spec) 1/4 mile & trap speeds:
http://www.mkiv.com/publications/oth.../cc1299_04.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ma71supratu...93cdsupra.html
http://www.geocities.com/ma71supratu...93rtsupra.html

another newbie
http://www.mkiv.com/specifications/p...p/sep20_17.jpg

Look at the 6 hyperlinks above!

such as this? ...

Oh, in the "real world" standard J-spec Supras makes 450 HP and trap at 114 MPH thanks to mystical eastern powers with their 440 cc injectors with 11.5 PSI of boost and 7.8 mm lift cams!

I guess there is a fire breathing Griffin lurking underneath that "standard" hatch in the real world to eh?

Like I said, someone from Leeds chatting on the internet claiming to be running 12's with a 280 HP GT will not be associated with anything regarding fact.


Ah, but I always post information or facts to disprove the idiot's assumptions and wild claims BEFORE I throw an insult.

Now that I just provided YOU Scott W that information - I can safely say you're a clueless emotional bi-stable twit as well.

LOL, you're all too pathetic, keep up the pollava.



[Edited by Cosworth427 - 12/30/2003 1:02:08 AM]

foodfreak

btw arse427,
Leon green is the guy who should be running approx 1000bhp now.( JPSmotorsport.com)
if you haven't heard of him then you really don't know supras

MONKEYmark

cosworth mk3 supra cav boy has been busy with your links.
whats the big deal over a stock car. my car is not stock but have pulled some 106mph trap speeds when i started off into drag racing doing 14 second 1/4`s
i have done a personal best of 12.53 @ 114mph after modding car.
i dont have standard cams no more have de catted and got a TC now.

i still do have my standard jap pump and 440cc injectors and no electronic boost controllers of fuel computers and weak ceramic turbos and pulling 114mph traps and cheap khumo tyres. so whats all the big deal about jap pumps and injectors not been up to the job? aint done me too bad to beat the superior UK specs.
dont a lot of or most americans run drag radials for grip, where we tend to use street rubber.
dont know anyone who would be happy with a standard car. you get used to the power so easy. and as for my car having 450bhp i dont think so. it dont mean **** what it puts out to me as long as it goes well. supras not brilliant off the line but on motorway they pull like a train to 140+

so i am running stock JAP fueling system with no fuel mods at all. next step is to try some drag radials to to see how close you can get to american times as they use drag radials.
they can pull mid 11`s @118mph on stock turbos and dragradials and race fuel.
then it will be off to get some single turbo power. dont think i will need to crack engine open to fit a new head gasket.

as for the astra doing a high 13 it was a mk3 astra with a 2l turbo conversion stripped out. i prefer to go out and drive car rather than sat looking for links to prove people wrong.
any standard car will feel ok but a few small mods and it makes you smile all the time.

have you been to dragstrip or raced your supra turbo. when i had mine i never did anything to it and was not into drag racing then.

just curious

have fun

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skylinelee

iTrader: (1)

what a fookin toss pot........why you lot are arguing with some student know it all i dont know. he's some computer nerd with his piece of **** car. hope you come to leeds one day cos id love to snap your fookin neck.
anyway have a good new year cossyboy
hope you get cancer and aids
lotsa gtr love
lee
nowt personal i just cant stand coonts like you

edited so you can see coonts...lol

[Edited by skylinelee - 12/30/2003 2:53:43 AM]

ScoobyJawa

So not 1 link from the UK - all other NZ and US sites Sorry but they are wrong, I don't believe them (does this sound familiar?).

Diff - oh look - another American link

Whatever your excuse for doing this is its still crap, you are guilty of it - which according to you its something you shouldn't need to do, and it stems from someone grasping at straws.

So yet again you've provided nothing useful in this thread from the original posters questions, where everyone else is trying to help out.

And needless to say yet again, not ONE person has agreed with you yet.

And that statement alone has just shown you for the pratt you are.

Scott W

Some how, I feel if we were to meet you wouldn't be saying that to my face.

As for proving me wrong, I don't think so. You just cannot help but lower yourself to name calling, when everybody else has simply provides you with their thoughts/comments. Instead you are turning this in to a personal vendetta against people who, from what I can understand, seem to know a lot more about the MKIV Supra in person, than any of the "hypothetical" stuff you know from what you perceive you've read, and keep pointing others to.

Now, in the real world, name calling gets you absolutely no-where, except for a smack in the face if done in pubs, etc... so why do you think it's required on a public forum? Do you do it simply because you can hide behind the PC, and will never meet any of these people in person? If not, then why not show your face at the Southampton meet that has been mentioned on here a few times and call these people the names you feel you need to. In fact, as Southampton isn't that far away I'd make sure I was there to see that.

Perhaps the only reason you revert to name calling is because you simply cannot argue your point without taking it to that level.

WRX280

Wee luuuuuuuurve you Scott W !!!

Cosworth427

Sensible question. Nothing at all! I just tried to prove that the "J-spec" pump and 440 cc injectors are capable of producing over 400 HP. According to your modifications and 1/4 mile trap speeds - you proven that yourself!

So do I, hence why I only make a couple of posts in this message board each day, I have 2 weeks off I spend MOST of that time OUT on the road.

It was a scan from the US Toyota product information book from 1993 - Next!

Wooooooooo, assuming I wouldn't say that to you in real life whilst STILL on the internet - that makes you a badass???

No, I name call because it is sheer fun after disproving your misconceptions. Thank you very much, Dr Freud.


WEAK.



[Edited by Cosworth427 - 12/30/2003 4:34:31 PM]

Cosworth427

Speaking of "hypothetical stuff", I'm still waiting for someone to answer where the missing fuel flow is from that TDI chart...

It's amazing how uneducated dumbasses (like many of you) resort to calling all the information provided as "theory" simply because you do not have the background NOR experience (I have both) to understand it!

"six 120 cc injectors not enuff for 1000 brake?, bah, all theory mate!! - look at my dyno to prove you wrong!".

ScoobyJawa

Can't be arsed with you anymore so I'll hopefully see you out on the road one day in my slow inferior Jap spec car (with removable roof - try that in a UK even more weight saving), and show you just how slow it really is.

Go on, come to the southampton meet and call scott names to his face, it'll sure give us all a right laugh!

So I'll just leave my posts at your level from now on, then maybe you'll understand them.

T0sspot.

[Edited by ScoobyJawa - 12/30/2003 6:14:41 PM]

MONKEYmark

above are a few of cosworths posts

you have been telling everyone that the jap pumps are no good for 280bhp then you say you trying to prove to everyone the jap pump and 440cc injectors are good for over 400bhp. you need to make up your mind as to what you saying.

i dont know what bhp my car has, and not too fussed in finding out. as from dyno to dyno they give different readings. they also dyno different too. its supposed to be harder to dyno an auto.
like i have said before i am running standard jap fuel system with jap pump and 440cc injectors and no electronics. i will need to change my injectors and pumps when i get my new single turbo kit.

had enough of this thread, its just going round in circles

have fun

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Beef

I get it - he thinks that by arguing with everyone at once, it's just another type of the 'mass debating' he enjoys so much

trollhunter

No you stupid little boy static pressure on a suprs (idle off boost is 36 psi .im off now to try and find a MK3 supra !!!

Dude

trollhunter

Right im back i found 2 right in my own yard and both taking pride of place stacked up on top of other cars !!!!!

Dude

trollhunter

I just realised you own a MK3 and i own 3 MK4's that must make us cusins or something !!!!!!

Dude

Cosworth427

You should learn to read! I was defending the fact that the J-spec pump is capable for over 400 HP, the rest are certain they are not and one "informed" member provided a graph which I pointed out was INVALID because it showed that the "J-spec" pump cannot even support 280 HP.

The fuel pump war started with this comment by Scoobyjawa

Page 2 Scoobyjawa said:



Now, according to YOU monkeymark, you make enough power to run 114 MPH at the end of the 1/4 mile assuming you have full trim and standard gearing. This is done via standard 440 cc injectors and fuel pump.

So am I RIGHT about the j-spec fuel pump capable of supporting over 400 HP OR is monkeymark a downright liar, gents?

This should be good!

Cosworth427

LOL, just like a woman who knows she's lost an arguement - walk out the door.

Well I hope I do see you on the road, MK4 Supras make a good challenge no matter who drives them.

How is "Scott" - an emotionally bi-stable internet thug going to give you a right laugh in the real world??

Yes, come back when you have the intellect to deal with fueling systems and volumetric efficiency.

Better than being played for a mug by Mystic Dragon Performance Tuning Ltd.

ScoobyJawa

****

and true to cockworth form, heres a link:

Look at me I am Cockworth

Looks like you need the gym cockworth, but I bet the 19th is well used.

[Edited by ScoobyJawa - 12/30/2003 11:57:31 PM]

Cosworth427

^^

ScoobyJawa

Look - lets call names like you

ScoobyJawa

Well, it would seem that way.

ScoobyJawa

MONKEYmark

would like to see some specs and times of this modded mk3 turbo. one ex mk3 supra owner we know has gone through loads of head gaskets and gearboxes. seems like a time bomb waiting to go off. but a lad on supra board has a big single on his mk3 supra turbo. still like to see mk3 supras they look good but dont seem to go as good. must be hard having astra 2l turbos pushing you up motorway.

hehehe

dangerous brain

And the thread rolls on and ariston.

If you won't LOOK at a real car and you WONT drive a real car then all the car fuel pumps in the world and all the injectors in your pile don't put humpety back together again!!

You've crashed You've been burned by everybody else on this forum---
Hell people from other forums have signed up just to burn your ***..

Face it plankton its a democratic society an if everyone says you are wrong then as the only minority you are wrong diddley wrong wrong wrong!

I'll add a ner ner nur ner nur stick a frog on me head two pencils up me nostrils and run around smacking myself repeatedly in the head doing a cosworth impression just for good measure. Then I'll stick my head in the sand to complete the process.

Oh and then post another bollox come-back

Cosworth427

I have installed my metal wafer gasket 4 months ago, it hasnt caused any problems or loss of power ever since. I am running 10 PSI right now with the stock CT-26 unit.

Who installed those gaskets for this "MK3 owner"? Because I wont need 2 guesses to say why they kept blowing...

The R154 transmission (Turbo cars) are running strong with 600+ at the wheels in the states. http://www.7mpower.com

Obviously the maxpower scene in Leeds needs alot of catching up to do.





[Edited by Cosworth427 - 12/31/2003 2:03:29 AM]

IanW

Ok enough is enough!!

I'm stopping this here and now, any problems with this and my e-mail address is in my profile, and I will discuss it OFFLINE with people.

Regards

Ian