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Old 20 September 2003, 05:22 PM
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The only thing I know about the build is that it used the same pistons that Wallis and myself are using from LP.
So does John Bank's engine.......so that doesn't help convince me much !

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Old 21 September 2003, 02:41 AM
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I don't believe aps claims for a second.

every "fact" they have published seems to be fishy.

remember their graph of the cooling performance of their front mount, and their sr50 500bhp turbo?

trp however I do believe but I think you will find their quoted power is with nitrous, not just normal fuel.

[Edited by Adam M - 9/21/2003 10:27:19 AM]
Old 21 September 2003, 09:40 AM
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TRP back up their claims with some stunning 1/4 mile times and terminal speeds If APS could perform some similar results then they would gain credibility in my opinion.

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Old 21 September 2003, 10:26 AM
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agree with andy.
Old 21 September 2003, 04:55 PM
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Right I am still none the wiser after 5 pages!!
I have got myself a scrap STI 6 motor (I think !!) and once I have found a closed deck block (You still haven't told me what year/ model they come from, or where to get one) I am going to be building it with a HKS stroker kit, and rod's of some description. Yes I know HKS aren't cheap, but they are to me!! ha ha. I will keep you all informed of my results once i have got it built.
Old 21 September 2003, 04:59 PM
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I think closed deck blocks were on most pre 96 wrx's.
Old 21 September 2003, 07:55 PM
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not so,


cdbs can be had from most pre 94 wrxs.

Not easy to find.

I have access to a 2.2 cdb if you want one which you can stroke to 2.33.

Further to this, an hks stroker kit even at cost price is still going to cost you more than sourcing the bits from lateral performance.

You dont need their hks supplied crank, you can use a phase 1 ej25 crank, or even a phase 2 if you modify the block to suit.

rods and pistons from mark will be easily up to the job.

[Edited by Adam M - 9/22/2003 12:09:57 PM]
Old 21 September 2003, 08:54 PM
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Have you load/stress tested both types of rod Adam ?
Have we seen any HKS rods break ?

[Edited by Andy.F - 9/21/2003 8:56:23 PM]
Old 22 September 2003, 12:16 AM
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Adam,

Dare I say, your comment regarding HKS vs LP rods is a little unqualified, and I can understand Andy questioning it.

I've never seen an HKS rod, but I'm sure they're very good.

However, I can say that the rods that I supply, and the rods used in the 9.13sec' 1/4 mile Rigoli car are from the same manufacturer

Mark.
Old 22 September 2003, 07:44 AM
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Any more info on this 2.2 block please Adam?
Old 22 September 2003, 12:10 PM
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fair point andy,

edited.

Old 22 September 2003, 01:11 PM
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Adam, Andy, I agree with your comments re:the TRP cars proving themselves on there stunning quarter mile times, I also haven't seen any graphs or information as to any cars APS have competed with. Would be interesting to see if anybody has it?

Where do I source an EJ25 crank?


Old 22 September 2003, 01:25 PM
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Rally colin, howard, ian..

any of the rally guys.

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Old 22 September 2003, 02:37 PM
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Cheers David.


Thought racing bikes cost me a fortune but this thing is going to clear me OUT

Would potential SPONSORS please contact me via my profile email address
Old 22 September 2003, 03:06 PM
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conrad,

you can try mark for pretty much what you need.

If he doesn't have it, he will probably know how to get it for you.
Old 22 September 2003, 03:15 PM
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Cheers

As you were the first to reply to my sponsor request I'll put you at the top of the list. lol
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I will sponsor you if you sponsor me.

I want back dated sponsorship for what I have already paid for.

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There's always a bloody catch isn't there????
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Have had a word with Mark @ lateral (seems to know his onions) More cc's here we come.
Old 23 September 2003, 05:11 PM
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"seems to know his onions" Yea but try asking him about engines
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lol
Old 23 September 2003, 05:15 PM
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Maybe I should edit that before we start scoobyworldwar 3

[Edited by Andy.F - 9/23/2003 5:17:01 PM]
Old 23 September 2003, 05:25 PM
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I asked him about engines, he told me a bit, when I wanted to know more he just said "thats chalotte!!"

di dum,,,,,,, TISH!!!!!!

Sorry that really was bad wasn't it?
Old 23 September 2003, 05:36 PM
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Too late to edit it Andy, the fuel has already been thrown on the fire LOL

I'm also going down the 2.5 litre route, what's the thought on JE pistons?

Do we know of any failures?



[Edited by RSVR Racer - 9/23/2003 5:37:57 PM]
Old 23 September 2003, 05:41 PM
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Cord - You'd get banned from the GTR forums for cracks like that
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ha ha, Why do you think i've started loitering on here!!!!
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I'm currently in the process of having a 2.33 built from an EJ20 CDB. This will also include custom cams, valves/valve springs, ported heads etc. What you also have to budget for is things like ECU, injectors, turbo, FMIC, oil pump, fuel pump etc - the list goes on. It does start to get expensive, so I'll just have to drive it gently until I can afford to beef up the gearbox (don't know how a Type R V5 box will hold up)! Hoping car will be ready in a few weeks now.

Regards
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Conrad..

Can you mail me please.
Old 25 September 2003, 09:45 AM
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yes we do know of a failure

but if you are following the route I started you down, then you shouldn't suffer from that same failure as me.


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