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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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Article on BBC Midlands news last night about an 8 year old boy who has twice mugged female OAPs. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Apparently 10 years old is the age at which individuals can be held responsible for criminal acts.

It's about time someone began a political party that relied on popular support for real action in this country: Anti-Scoial Behaviour, Asylum/Immigration, Education, Health-Service, General Law & Order... A political party where the representatives give straight answers to straight questions and aren't afraid to tell people that things might cost more if they explain how the money would be spent.

...This could actually be achieved via the internet...Hmmmm...
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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Yo Leslie.... well said, took the words right out of my mouth. Where are the days when kids used to have all round respect? Mine do and they are in their early 20's, I've just become a grandma and I dearly hope Max is brought up to be respectful too.
I dread to think where all this will end. These troublesome teens are the adults of tomorrow...gawd forbid !
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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well tellboy as i said in the seatbelt thread i dont agree with the fines i do wear my seatbelt sometimes but i dont feel i should be forced to wear it my kids wear theirs voluntarily and thats their choice but they do not go about terrorising the neibourhood they know right from wrong.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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"That's their choice"??? Shouldn't it be you insisting that that's what they do..??
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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no i dont believe in forcing them to do things they always have a choice they decide where their life goes not me or you or anyone else thats whats wrong with kids nowadays everything is done for them.

my sons can change wheels,starters,radiators can name most parts of a car can service their own mountain bikes, know how to wire a plug,can cook,can do their own washing etc etc

they will also help anyone who asks if they know how.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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So you select which laws you think they should respect without question, and those which they can adhere to "if they choose" to..?
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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no they decide we just point them in the general direction.

my kids dont smoke dont drink dont threaten to batter everyone

im happy with that even if you are not.

if you try to force kids to do things they WILL NOT do them and vice versa

[Edited by pugoetru - 7/29/2003 3:04:46 PM]
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Young teenage kids used to be a menace round my area, until while cleaning the car they decided it'd be fun to use water pistols the 'help out' (ie. squrt the car when I'm no looking). After I told them to not do it twice I challenged them to a water gun fight.
£4.99 water gun vs a Karcher pressure washer with the 'cement-blaster' attachment isn't much contest really
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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direct is always best
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 12:30 PM
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Pugeotru.

Sounds like you have done a good job with them then. Thats how it should be and you must be proud of them.

I agree that they should be free to decide what they want to do in life. That is very important, you have guided their lives during their formative years. My parents did not try to influence my choice in occupation when I entered the wide world and I appreciated that.

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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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Leslie, you're totally right of course. No-one would disagree with what you've said.

But, unless i'm misunderstanding this, Pugeotru is selective in which laws he believes his kids should respect, and those, such as the seatbelt law, which he thinks it is ok for them to disregard if they so choose.

That, in my opinion, is not great parenting...
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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telboy my kids DO wear their seatbelts BUT i dont force them to do so they choose to do so its their choice to wear them.

they dont smoke they dont drink they dont mug old ladys for their pension oh i give up just lock me up!
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Made me laugh Mr P

[Edited by Leslie - 7/31/2003 3:40:50 PM]
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